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FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Whelo79 wrote: »
    Is Leo Varadkar a sociopath? His recent and unexplainable decision to pose for a photo opportunity, grinning from ear to ear showing off his best power pose, at the opening of the isolation facility at Citywest is to me another example of how emotionally detached from reality he is. People dying, hospital workers on their knees, ICU's near capacity, elderly confined to their homes, economy on the verge of collapsing back into recession, small business owners watching their livelihoods disappear, etc etc. But Leo see's this as a prime opportunity for some PR. What right minded person thinks that way?

    Profile of the Sociopath

    Glibness and Superficial Charm.
    Manipulative and Conning. They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. ...
    Grandiose Sense of Self. ...
    Pathological Lying. ...
    Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt. ...
    Shallow Emotions. ...
    Incapacity for Love.
    Need for Stimulation.

    Varadkar is a knob but this post is just pathetic. You're a bit of a sociopath yourself id say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    She is right
    The Dail could easily have sat via video conferencing
    Companies are doing it every day

    Was this offered as an option? Can you link to where it was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79


    Ballso wrote: »
    You're a bit of a sociopath yourself id say

    You couldn't be wider of the mark.

    I have an element of charm when I can be bothered, but plenty think I'm dull.

    I definitely don't con people and more often than not let myself down to please others.

    I've told many a lie growing up, as have we all. Certainly not pathological.

    Plenty of experience with guilt and remorse, can't say I've often felt shame.

    Happily in love and married 5 years.

    No stimulation required. Equally as comfortable in current isolation, reading a book, sitting in my own company, chilling on the balcony as I am at a party for of strangers.

    I still feel my question about Varadkar is relevant and one worth asking. Catherine Noone controversially stated that he may have been on the autism spectrum, maybe the term sociopath would have been more befitting and accurate? He certainly seems to posses many of the traits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Thank God the years of experience negotiating and procurement with the likes of BAM is helping them now. Strong and stable?

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1246022961775235072?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    smurgen wrote: »
    Thank God the years of experience negotiating and procurement with the likes of BAM is helping them now. Strong and stable?

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1246022961775235072?s=19

    Gown looks like it would be a perfect fit for the likes of Brendan Howlin.

    Wonder if these are just substandard oddball sizes, or did we send a jet off and back for literally a planeload of junk?


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Gown looks like it would be a perfect fit for the likes of Brendan Howlin. ......

    Mary Lou wouldn't get into it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Augeo wrote: »
    Mary Lou wouldn't get into it anyway.

    Nor will the vast majority of our health staff unless they're of extremely small stature - I wasn't getting a dig at Howlin btw, just pointing out that going by the tweet
    RTÉ News understands that some new deliveries of PPE distributed this week contained protective gowns which are three-quarter length on the arm
    those gowns are grossly undersized for the vast majority of our workers in health.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    If Sinn Fein were in government these sleeves would be longer. Is that it?

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Ballso wrote: »
    If Sinn Fein were in government these sleeves would be longer. Is that it?

    :rolleyes:

    Oh for crying out loud, get a grip, there's no one pointing the finger at fg or anyone else, the equipment's (or at least some of it) appears to be substandard or of incorrect sizes.

    It would be better, given that we are in the midst of a global health pandemic, if people could determine if it was ordered incorrectly, or if it was an error on the suppliers end, and then sort it out, so the staff can be fully protected, rather than prematurely wave their hands trying to absolve themselves of blame no one cast on them - and roar something about Sinn Fein

    Have you ever considered changing your username to ballso65225798421679?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Oh for crying out loud, get a grip, there's no one pointing the finger at fg or anyone else, the equipment's (or at least some of it) appears to be substandard or of incorrect sizes.

    It would be better if people could determine if it was ordered incorrectly, or if it was an error on the suppliers end rather than prematurely wave the hand trying to absolve themselves of blame no one cast on them

    Have you ever considered changing your username to ballso65225798421679?

    A case of 'in with the defense first'. FG upping their game. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Oh for crying out loud, get a grip, there's no one pointing the finger at fg or anyone else, the equipment's (or at least some of it) appears to be substandard or of incorrect sizes.

    It would be better, given that we are in the midst of a global health pandemic, if people could determine if it was ordered incorrectly, or if it was an error on the suppliers end, and then sort it out, so the staff can be fully protected, rather than prematurely wave their hands trying to absolve themselves of blame no one cast on them - and roar something about Sinn Fein

    Have you ever considered changing your username to ballso65225798421679?

    That poster continually posts content to attack the people managing the crisis, what other way could it be interpreted? Why is it in this thread and not one of the dozens of other threads if its not to be taken in the context of this thread? There are several threads specific to PPE issues on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    A case of 'in with the defense first'. FG upping their game. :)

    It's really boring, there's obviously a problem with the PPE that was supplied to the staff, peoples lives depend on this equipment, not only the staff but patients too.

    First step should be identifying where and how the equipment has ended up being wrong, fix the problem, and get on with things, the desire to plead the "sure SF would be worst" just can't be overcome it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Ballso wrote: »
    That poster continually posts content to attack the people managing the crisis, what other way could it be interpreted? Why is it in this thread and not one of the dozens of other threads if its not to be taken in the context of this thread? There are several threads specific to PPE issues on boards.

    So I post about the gowns being only 3/4 length of staffs arms, you follow up with this
    If Sinn Fein were in government these sleeves would be longer. Is that it?
    But sure it's another posters fault?


    I couldn't really care if FG, FF, SF Or the fuppin DUP need to get the issue sorted, just find out where the problem stemmed from and sort it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    McMurphy wrote: »
    It's really boring, there's obviously a problem with the PPE that was supplied to the staff, peoples lives depend on this equipment, not only the staff but patients too.

    First step should be identifying where and how the equipment has ended up being wrong, fix the problem, and get on with things, the desire to plead the "sure SF would be worst" just can't be overcome it seems.

    Nothing will be allowed to take from the political rehabilitation of FG, that the sinister are exploiting from this crisis.

    I was being serious, FG have upped their game. They've seen the chance and are taking advantage of it fully.
    'Defense' is part of it and you can see that active on Twitter and other platforms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭Field east


    efanton wrote: »
    Well it looks like a new election is on it way


    Fine Gael will only go into Government with Fianna Fáil if a third party is also involved, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/we-need-a-third-party-to-form-a-stable-government-with-fianna-fail-says-varadkar-991866.html

    Unless of course FG and FF are going to dowhat they claimed they would never do and that is to invite SF to join them.

    Isn't it sad when FG and FF just ignore what others have said and continue to only hear what they want to hear.ð4
    If Labour have said no, and the Greens have said no, who else does Leo expect to join them?
    Kind of reminds you of the the 'consent' campaign that has been running for the last few years especially in the universities. NO should mean NO and nothing else.

    It seems Leo is restricting the options for government formation even further.
    Why would he rule out Independents joining coalition is he really wanted a coalition to be formed?
    All

    All the NOs well predate the beginning of the onset of the virus even on an international level. No TD or any element of the media reported at the time of everybody saying NO reported on the impact that the virus would have on any aspect of the Irish nation.
    Since then all things have CHANGED UTTERLY- for example all manifestos are now obselate and need to be completely redrawn . The country going to having a projected €11bn available over 5 yrs to maybe having to borrow up to €20bn + to have any kind of a reasonable program.
    Because the economy will need an immediate boost at the very first opportunity , building affordable/ social houses with very cheap money would provide such an opportunity along , of course with other actions


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    McMurphy wrote: »
    So I post about the gowns being only 3/4 length of staffs arms, you follow up with this

    If Sinn Fein were in government these sleeves would be longer. Is that it?

    But sure it's another posters fault?

    Are you 8?
    My post was in response to Smurgens political commentary attached to a picture of a surgical smock with short arms petal, you can relax.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Nothing will be allowed to take from the political rehabilitation of FG, that the sinister are exploiting from this crisis.

    I was being serious, FG have upped their game. They've seen the chance and are taking advantage of it fully.
    'Defense' is part of it and you can see that active on Twitter and other platforms.

    ****ing hell, the dopes in Fine Gael are "the sinister"!? The organisation you support had a clandestine paramilitary wing murdering civilians up until a few years ago. Christ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Ballso wrote: »
    ****ing hell, the dopes in Fine Gael are "the sinister"!? The organisation you support had a clandestine paramilitary wing murdering civilians up until a few years ago. Christ.

    Can't help oneself. ;)

    Outed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Indo going after madigan today


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  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Can't help oneself. ;)

    Outed!

    Outed? Did you not know about the provisional IRA Francie? I suppose there had to be a gap in your expertise somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭Field east


    efanton wrote: »
    Says the woman in the Dail with no one within 5 metres of her.
    Its perfectly safe to hold a leaders question and answer session by dramatically reducing numbers attending and ensuring sufficient space is kept between TD's as was done today. They are in a place of work after all crucial to the running of the country.
    Now more than ever is the time for government to inform Dail members and opposition parties of what is happening, and allow political oversight.

    Sadly it seems FG might be milking this crisis for political gain, which if it is the case is absolutely disgraceful. At best they are expecting to be allowed to govern with no oversight whatsoever. Either is bad for democracy and bad for Ireland in the coming months when even more crucial decisions will have to be made.

    There is a bit more than the 5 meters you refer to . Look at all the opportunities for any TD to come in contact with people/surfaces from home to dail, around the dail and back home

    The last time we had a government making decisions with no oversight in the midst of a crisis it did not go well at all. Have FG learnt nothing from the banking crisis?
    There is a bit more than the 5 meters which you refer to. Look at all the potential opportunities for any TD attending the Dail to come in contact with people/surfaces from home to Dail, around the Dail and back again. Some garda have been spat at. ATD could suffer the same experience.
    It is VERY IMPORTANT that that those involved in leading positions that they keep the chances of getting sick /catching the virus to an absolute minimum if not zero. When Dr Holohan got unwell the nation took a deep breath. I would have grave concerns if , like the UK, Varadkar, Harris , Madrigan and Holohan went down at the same time. I’m sure their replacements would rise to the task but any such change at this crucial time rocks the boat. The ‘team’ up till now are all singing to the same hymn sheet - note for note. God spare us the way the parties in the North are behaving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Ballso wrote: »
    Outed? Did you not know about the provisional IRA Francie? I suppose there had to be a gap in your expertise somewhere

    Let's try again...see can you deal with a post without mentioning SF or the 'RA.

    Breathe deep.

    Nothing will be allowed to take from the political rehabilitation of FG, that the sinister are exploiting from this crisis.

    I was being serious, FG have upped their game. They've seen the chance and are taking advantage of it fully.
    'Defense' is part of it and you can see that active on Twitter and other platforms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Let's try again...see can you deal with a post without mentioning SF or the 'RA.

    Breathe deep.

    Nothing will be allowed to take from the political rehabilitation of FG, that the sinister are exploiting from this crisis.

    I was being serious, FG have upped their game. They've seen the chance and are taking advantage of it fully.
    'Defense' is part of it and you can see that active on Twitter and other platforms.

    What the **** are you on about?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Ballso wrote: »
    My post was in response to Smurgens political commentary attached to a picture of a surgical smock with short arms petal, you can relax.

    You reap what you sow.I'll highlight FG shortcomings until the sun burns out. If you don't like it try one of the twenty SF threads on here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    smurgen wrote: »
    You reap what you so.I'll highlight FG shortcomings until the sun burns out. If you don't like it try one of the twenty SF threads on here.

    So you think the length of the arms in that smock are down to the Fine Gael party. That's what I thought. If Sinn Fein were in power they would have negotiated better and we'd have better PPE for health workers yeah?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Ballso wrote: »
    So you think the length of the arms in that smock are down to the Fine Gael party. That's what I thought. If Sinn Fein were in power they would have negotiated better and we'd have better PPE for health workers yeah?

    Are you saying there was no quality or spec inspection before purchasing millions of Euro worth of equipment? Especially after their European counterparts advised that they had issues already.seems like gross negligence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Ballso wrote: »
    What the **** are you on about?

    That there is a committed and obvious campaign to politically rehabilitate FG underway.

    This is taking the form of Twitter bot accounts and activists on forums 'defending' them against any criticism, real or imagined.
    Nothing is to be allowed to take the gloss off their performance.

    We know Leo favoured this approach previously.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    smurgen wrote: »
    Are you saying there was no quality or spec inspection before purchasing millions of Euro worth of equipment?

    Well I don't know. There isn't a huge range to choose from at the minute. What with the killer global pandemic and that.

    There will continue to be shortfalls throughout this crisis. Many people will die. Scoring cheap political points and hurling from the ditch on this is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. But it's all you know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,799 ✭✭✭This is it


    This is a thread full of "so what you're saying is..." and "are you saying...".

    Some craic to read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭christy c


    This is it wrote: »
    This is a thread full of "so what you're saying is..." and "are you saying...".

    Some craic to read.

    So what you are saying is you are better than everyone? ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    That there is a committed and obvious campaign to politically rehabilitate FG underway.

    This is taking the form of Twitter bot accounts and activists on forums 'defending' them against any criticism, real or imagined.
    Nothing is to be allowed to take the gloss off their performance.

    We know Leo favoured this approach previously.

    Fair enough. I just hate Sinn Fein myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Ballso wrote: »
    I just hate Sinn Fein myself.

    So you jump to the defence of FG?

    Not buying it...not buying! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    So you jump to the defence of FG?

    Not buying it...not buying! ;)

    Probably a green voter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    So you jump to the defence of FG?

    Not buying it...not buying! ;)

    Loads of people hate Sinn Fein Francie. You seem surprised. Maybe murdering 1800 civilians might be a factor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Probably a green voter.

    Deffo! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Ballso wrote: »
    Loads of people hate Sinn Fein Francie. You seem surprised. Maybe murdering 1800 civilians might be a factor.

    And FFG caused 561 suicides in the last recession. Life's simple when you polarise your view.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/male-suicide-rate-jumped-by-57pc-during-recession-31317563.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Sinn Fein to eliminate suicide in the upcoming recession now too, great. No end to what you lads will promise. Must be incredible to have infallible answers and solutions to literally everything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Ballso wrote: »
    Sinn Fein to eliminate suicide in the upcoming recession now too, great. No end to what you lads will promise. Must be incredible to have infallible answers and solutions to literally everything.

    FG would much rather us under Westminster rule by virtue of the fact they're basically Tories. Imagine how we'd be getting on at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    smurgen wrote: »
    FG would much rather us under Westminster rule by virtue of the fact they're basically Tories. Imagine how we'd be getting on at the moment.

    Nope. FG are nothing like the Tories. They dont copy the Tories. No Irish party will.

    Uk has free GP care. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has free school books. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has world class universities. Ireland doesn't.
    UK top rate of tax starts at £50k. Ireland at €35k.
    UK has no USC. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has much higher employers contribution than in Ireland. (What we call employers PRSI).
    UK has better public transport. We dont even havw a rail link to an airport.
    Etc etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Nope. FG are nothing like the Tories. They dont copy the Tories. No Irish party will.

    Uk has free GP care. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has free school books. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has world class universities. Ireland doesn't.
    UK top rate of tax starts at £50k. Ireland at €35k.
    UK has no USC. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has much higher employers contribution than in Ireland. (What we call employers PRSI).
    UK has better public transport. We dont even havw a rail link to an airport.
    Etc etc

    They're bending towards the Tories where possible only the electorate and left leaning parties keep them in check.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,844 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Nope. FG are nothing like the Tories. They dont copy the Tories. No Irish party will.

    Uk has free GP care. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has free school books. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has world class universities. Ireland doesn't.
    UK top rate of tax starts at £50k. Ireland at €35k.
    UK has no USC. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has much higher employers contribution than in Ireland. (What we call employers PRSI).
    UK has better public transport. We dont even havw a rail link to an airport.
    Etc etc

    How much of the above were introduced by the British LP?


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Any kind of prudent financial management grounded in economic reality makes you a "Tory" to the free gaffs for everyone brigade.

    Even the most chronically stupid & ignorant won't buy the shinnernomics nonsense with the scale of the economic crisis we are about to plunge into. Sinn Fein and their fantasyland promises are finished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Ballso wrote: »
    Any kind of prudent financial management grounded in economic reality makes you a "Tory" to the free gaffs for everyone brigade.

    Even the most chronically stupid & ignorant won't buy the shinnernomics nonsense with the scale of the economic crisis we are about to plunge into. Sinn Fein and their fantasyland promises are finished.


    The Shinners are giving 'free gaffs' to everyone now? :)

    I'll remind you who has been in power in this state for the 100 years of it's existence..FF or FG and at various times Lab/Gr's/Cumman Na Gael/ various Independents/ PD's etc etc.

    It is the parties above who have created the version of the welfare state that we have.

    But the 'shinners...something something something' :):)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    smurgen wrote: »
    They're bending towards the Tories where possible only the electorate and left leaning parties keep them in check.

    Name the Tory policies FG have.

    Btw getting rid of tax relief at the higher rate for pension contributions and having a third rate of income tax are two Tory policies SF have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    How much of the above were introduced by the British LP?

    Tories have been in power for 28 of the last 40 years. They obviously want to keep those things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Nope. FG are nothing like the Tories. They dont copy the Tories. No Irish party will.

    Uk has free GP care. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has free school books. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has world class universities. Ireland doesn't.
    UK top rate of tax starts at £50k. Ireland at €35k.
    UK has no USC. Ireland doesn't.
    UK has much higher employers contribution than in Ireland. (What we call employers PRSI).
    UK has better public transport. We dont even havw a rail link to an airport.
    UK hold state commemorations for units of the British military. Ireland doesn't. (but would have had Charlie and Leo had their way)
    Etc etc

    Updated the list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Ballso wrote: »
    Any kind of prudent financial management grounded in economic reality makes you a "Tory" to the free gaffs for everyone brigade.

    Even the most chronically stupid & ignorant won't buy the shinnernomics nonsense with the scale of the economic crisis we are about to plunge into. Sinn Fein and their fantasyland promises are finished.

    Could've sworn that a few months ago FG cheerleaders (of which I'm sure you're not one) were proclaiming that the shinners were banjaxed because the state was enjoying a boom, and the shinners need "recession and misery" as their only chance of being elected:confused:

    It's the opposite now I see.

    Interesting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭landofthetree




  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Updated the list.

    I think in the midst of all this we can all agree that tan commemoration ****e they tried to pull was ****ing moronic. Absolute tone deaf morons.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Could've sworn that a few months ago FG cheerleaders (of which I'm sure you're not one) were proclaiming that the shinners were banjaxed because the state was enjoying a boom, and the shinners need "recession and misery" as their only chance of being elected:confused:

    It's the opposite now I see.

    Interesting.

    SF said we could spent an extra 23billion a year by 2025. :D


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