CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

Acute care hospital beds per 100 000 of population.

Germany 621
France 428
Italy 275
Ireland 240
Spain 239

Now compare confirmed cases per 100 000 of population.

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Why?
Cheltenham isn't like Italy or Spain

And ten days ago, Spain wasn't like Italy. They had less cases than we do now.

I respect the fact that your point to the poster you replied to is Cheltenham isn't riddled with it. But it was a large gathering of a quarter of a million people, and only becomes apparent days after.

wakka12 wrote: »

China experienced weeks of misery after complete lockdown. Europe's reaction has still been very mixed despite growth over the last few days that has dwarfed anything China saw during it's peak, many Europeans are still living a relatively normal life right now, many still going outside and doing normal work and leisure activities, so not only is the growth much larger but there wont be that same nose dive in cases as China saw.

Europe had about 9,000 new cases today and over 300 deaths.

China at it's peak was experiencing 4000 or so new cases a day and 150-200 deaths

World stayed completely open to China (and this virus) for far, far too long IMO.

Flights, inward travel etc should have been cancelled or quarantined but that could not be done (as I think it was very quickly with SARS outbreak?) because it would have annoyed China and been quite disruptive for for businesses/the economy. Of course China is a superpower now, has very deep economic ties with most Western nations and must be respected or else.

They were able to contain the virus precisely because they are a superpower with resources most other countries cannot dream of. They also have a fascist, authoritarian and centralised system that is good for responding very fast to something like this once the leaders really put their mind to it & make it a priority.

I think some people in Ireland (perhaps elsewhere in Europe) still have this stereotype of China as a poor third world nation & believe, well if they could seemingly get a handle on it, it must not be so big a deal & we'll be fine here!

expectationlost wrote: »

The COVID-19 map is currently undergoing maintenance. Thank you for your patience.

Its working fine for me

I hope coppers is not full of people shifting ! Us all on here doing our part like

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

I hope coppers is not full of people shifting !

It closed for two weeks today

I believe the strategy is to get 60%? of people infected and (hopefully) recovered. Then we have herd immunity.

However, it has to be done in a controlled way, hence the gradual closing of schools etc. Do it too quickly and panic sets in. Do it too slowly and in the infection rate increases too quickly.

With this in mind, I wonder if a 'controlled infection' strategy would work? Deliberately infect the healthiest and let them recover. Then let the 60% for herd immunity be the healthiest ones? - saving the elderly?

fritzelly wrote: »

Working for me - but Ireland is not updated - are they still only doing daily updates?

Ireland is showing 90 so up to date.

Ladybird18 wrote: »

When Trump said the words "national emergency" were 2 big words I lost all faith.

Yeah; I did a double take. It sounded so stooopid.

But maybe he meant big as in big implications rather than just loads of letters!

darjeeling wrote: »

https://twitter.com/nextstrain/status/1238597954593644545



Ireland joins the nextstrain.org virus genome map, with 5 new genomes sequenced by the NVRL.
Three are from Limerick (all look related), and there are two other unrelated ones - 1 from Dublin, 1 from Cork.
That means at least three separate introductions into the country, but I think we knew that already.

Could someone explain this to a simpleton?
I have read also the European cases started in Germany? How do they come to that conclusion? Is it a new strain/mutation of the virus? How can they tell there was 3 separate introductions to this country?

I just saw a Snapchat story, the picture has a pint with the caption reading: '**** your virus'.

That lad who posted it is in his mid-thirties and in fairness, was never the sharpest so I actually don't think he 'gets it'. We don't care if the likes of him gets the virus, it's the issue of passing it on to other people that's the problem. That's why the government needs to step in and temporarily shut the pubs because you just can't legislate for people and a lot of them out there are real idiots.

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

I just saw a Snapchat story, the picture has a pint with the caption reading: '**** your virus'.

That lad who posted it is in his mid-thirties and in fairness, was never the sharpest so I actually don't think he 'gets it'. We don't care if the likes of him gets the virus, it's the issue of passing it on to other people that's the problem. That's why the government needs to step in and temporarily shut the pubs because you just can't legislate for people and a lot of them out there are real idiots.

Very difficult to legislate for imbeciles

Blueshoe wrote: »

You know the way in the winter someone in the office gets the flu and before you know it most of the office have it. It's like that only you won't know you have it until you have passed it on to co-workers and family members. When you start to show symptoms it will be too late.

How do you pass it on if not through coughing and sneezing?