CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

completedit wrote: »

I honestly believe once the hysteria of Italy has passed, things will return to normal. Something weird happened up there that turned it into a nightmare in some hospitals.

Exponential growth with no containment measures to restrict the rate of growth until it was too late. It's what will happen here if people don't practice social distancing in large numbers to slow transmission rate.

Nothing weird about it. Irish citizens inaction will lead to thousands of deaths if they don't do their part to slow the spread.

completedit wrote: »

I honestly believe once the hysteria of Italy has passed, things will return to normal. Something weird happened up there that turned it into a nightmare in some hospitals. Their aging population who I gather would be a lot more expressive and social than our ones, helped speed up the spread of it in their population.

China experienced weeks of misery after complete lockdown. Europe's reaction has still been very mixed despite growth over the last few days that has dwarfed anything China saw during it's peak, many Europeans are still living a relatively normal life right now, many still going outside and doing normal work and leisure activities, so not only is the growth much larger but there wont be that same nose dive in cases as China saw.

Europe had about 9,000 new cases today and over 330 deaths.

China at it's peak was experiencing 4000 or so new cases a day and 150-200 deaths. China is also about 3x times larger population than Europe .

Conor McGregor just put up a post and Im not sure if I am reading it incorrectly, but I think he said his aunt died of the coronavirus?

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Personally I have done that. I won't be flying anywhere soon or popping down the pub.

But I can also see why others have popped out. Lot of #SupportLocal on my Twitter feed. And government not closing them kind of makes it look like they support the bars/restaurants/cafes opening.

Would love to live in a world where, as you say, people make decisions for their own good and the good of others but maybe a large group of people might need actual direction with rules and consequences if rules are not followed. I'm not expert in this field though!

#supportlife #supporthealth #openyourears #stayalive #becommunityminded and most importantly #DONTBEAFÛCKINGINGSTUPIDSELFISHIGNORANTCUNT

Nermal wrote: »

A significant proportion of us have to get it. We can’t stay indoors forever. Better for all that those of us at lower risk get it, and quickly. The good people in Temple Bar - so long as they’re not working in nursing homes - are doing what needs to be done.

That's not true and not what's happening in other parts of the world at all. China and South Korea contained it with lockdowns and are eliminating it entirely. The same result from the 10 lockdown towns in Italy.

Shut everything down for 2 weeks, stay inside and the pandemic is over. It's simple, if only people would listen.

It's also a bit laughable to say "We can’t stay indoors forever" when the people at Temple Bar tonight have fallen at the first hurdle and made no effort whatsoever, much like the cheltenham goers.

Coralcoras wrote: »

A sobering read about pregnancy and coronovirus.

https://mothertobaby.org/fact-sheets/coronaviruses/

1st Trimester: Risk of miscarriage (50%) and birth defects.
2nd and 3rd Trimester: Risk of early labour (approx. 30-40%), stillbirth (approx. 20%) and other complications like poor growth.

This is early days so many of the statistics are based on observations from a relatively small (Covid19-infected) population sample.
Other stats are based on stronger relationships observed during similars viral outbreaks in the past, I.e. SARS and MERS.

My sisters, both of whom work in a face-to-face role with the HSE and are pregnant, are in complete limbo regarding current/expected working conditions.

There’s a lot of mention in the media about the vulnerability of elderly and immunocompromised citizens, but I’ve heard no mention made of the unborn child. I hope this gets discussed more and want to draw attention to the issue.

Those percentages are not actually in the article you linked to. Specifically on the 50% thing, the article actually says: "In reports of pregnant women who had SARS in the first trimester, 4 out of 8 pregnancies ended in miscarriage."

That's not any where near a reliable sample size to make any generalisations. It's also about SARS, not covid-19.

The author also says "Studies have not been done to see if getting a coronavirus during pregnancy could increase the chance of miscarriage... There is not enough information to know if the miscarriages were caused by the virus, the severity of the mother’s illness, or other reasons. ... More research is needed to know how coronavirus infection could affect a pregnancy."

D.Q wrote: »

God I miss pints

Those were the days

hetuzozaho wrote: »

The latest travel notice is a bit vague is it? I know this is tricky and I think Gov/HSE are doing well, but what does be cautious even mean? Either tell them to fly or not.

The pubs being open is strange too, difficult balancing act as bars/restaurants real danger of going under. But them not closing them gives the impression that we can go etc. But should we be going? Patricks Day currently normal drinking day except for the Parade? Will temple bar be packed on Tuesday?

Without an outright ban, people can’t claim their refunds. It’s a way of saving the industry a few quid, at a time when it’s likely to bankrupt them. I think it’s obvious that only very stupid or reckless people would go on holidays right now.

almostover wrote: »

We have got more than sufficient direction from our government. They've done a good job without resorting to martial law. Don't make unnecessary journeys, self isolate if ill, cancel social events, don''t congregate in groups of more than 100 people when indoors plus many other excellent pieces of advice. If you need to get out go for a walk or a run in the open air away from large crowds. How hard is it?

How hard is what sorry?

I was talking about the packed pubs. It's clearly not working is all.

I can see the government having to go nuclear in the next week or two. It’s clear some people haven’t a clue about how serious this is nor do they give a ****

Wow finally caught up on the thread...Exhausting in itself

Unsettling times ahead for everyone.

Most of our office has been asked to work from home if they can. Only key staff to remain. (Or those whose micromanagers don’t “trust them” to work from home) My daughter being one of these who has to stay, so I’m going to continue going to the office with her. It seems a little redundant for me to work from home if she’s going to the office everyday anyway, as we live together. I do like going to the office as well - not everybody is suited to working from home. But of course if it’s enforced I’ll have to embrace it I guess.

I’m going to try and use the upcoming period of “downtime” to get the house in order. Do more reading and crafts. The money I would have spent on going out and enjoying life ? I can rechannel into buying books or craft materials. A few small DIY projects maybe. Put a bit by for a holiday when it’s safe to travel again perhaps. Focus on eating good food and trying out some new recipes.

Yeh I’ll miss the social interactions. We all will. But the better we are at slowing the spread then hopefully the sooner we can try and get back to some kind of normality - whatever shape that takes.

BlazingSaddler wrote: »

Any word on those returning from Cheltenham this evening?, presumably being advised to self isolate? Anybody who attended and doesn’t self isolate is reckless and irresponsible. The whole Cheltenham thing has made my blood boil

Are you sure your blood is boiling and it's not just a fever?