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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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    #9572
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Daily new cases South Korea:
    9th March: 165
    10th March: 35
    11th March: 242

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    Didnt that number jump due to a cluster of people in a call centre?


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    #9573
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    There's a running event I'm supposed to be going to in May but I haven't signed up obviously but the amount of people saying 'I've signed up' and continuing to organise is unreal and I heard someone on the bus this morning who was going to a conference who was doubting it would happen but hadn't cancelled. Should we really wait for the government to tell us what we already know? Are we that thick?

    Take the power back!

    Listen to your gut, its your second brain.


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    #9574
    NetChat101
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭NetChat101


    Mango Joe wrote: »
    I'd also suggest that now is finally the time to throw caution to the winds and take your sexy Neighbour or work Colleague into your arms in a passionate embrace followed by 3 or 4 minutes of amazing love-making......

    3 or 4 minutes - lucky them!!!


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    #9575
    iguana
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 12,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Once the gloves touch anything they are useless. You can wash your hands as easily, if not more so, as take off rubber gloves. Gloves are for very short term use between patients or possible contaminants. Touching a shopping trolley, picking up goods, handling money, opening a door etc with the same pair of gloves is a futile exercise.

    I don't know. My skin has cracked in a couple of places on one hand because I spilled a mild bleach solution on it but have continued with over washing and steriliser use that's stripped the skin of it's natural oils. I've been keeping them heavily moisturised while at home but the skin has opened in a couple of places now. I'm going to have to start wearing a rubber glove on that hand now because tiny open cuts are a perfect way for the virus to infect me.


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    #9576
    dan786
    Registered Users Posts: 3,307 ✭✭✭dan786


    Germany has confirmed a third death due to coronavirus.


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    #9577
    morebabies
    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭morebabies


    If an elderly person has contracted pneumonia from Covid-19 through community transmission, though is not tested, as is probably the case at the moment, will the individual be routinely tested for coronavirus if they pass away do you think, or will the health service just put pneumonia down as cause of death?

    On the one hand, the govt won't want to frighten people with a high mortality rate, but on the other, there would surely be implications for the rest of the family who could contract the virus from them, particularly if some of those are immunocompromised or elderly too.


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    #9578
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    the deftone wrote: »
    Really frustrated watching all this unfold. Every part of me completely wants to see flights to and from affected areas being grounded, schools closed, events cancelled ect....

    Watching what has happended to Italy makes all this seem like a no brainer.

    However I'm rational enough to know there are people a lot smarter than me advising the government not to do these things yet.

    Can someone please help me understand the reasoning behind this?

    This has been disproved repeatedly.


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    #9579
    ibarelycare
    Registered Users Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Over 3,000 die is car accidents EVERYDAY...10 MILLION people die of cancer EVERY YEAR...The media/RTE are a joke they even hype up 60mph storms like they are Catergory 5 Hurricanes

    Car accidents and cancer aren't contagious.


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    #9580
    laurah591
    Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    completedit wrote: »
    Was on Davis McWilliams spouting the same stuff. I get it but he he seems like one of these overly rational people who can’t imagine that a virus he’s never encountered before may have big consequences. I’d be very suspicious when I hear of people saying things like “80% of people will be absolutely fine”

    80% will have mild symptoms - but 1 in 5 will be serious!


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    #9581
    RandomName2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    flynnlives wrote: »

    Taiwan and South Korea have been extreemely aggressive in tackling this head on.


    And Taiwan and South Korea were faced with an infinitely more difficult task than us. South Korea had a cult deliberately spread the disease for a week FFS. Also both of them are a stone's throw from the outbreak of the disease (in aviation terms)


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    #9582
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Probably will be a long/slow process, until enough people get infected and a vaccine being available. China still reluctant atm to do it and not even sure Europe can do what they done. Its probably going to a fight against outbreaks for the next 18 months or so


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    #9583
    RandomName2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    dan786 wrote: »
    Germany has confirmed a third death due to coronavirus.

    The question is: how many deaths will it take for Germany to give a damn?


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    #9584
    gabeeg
    Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Bahrain 79 new cases, bringing their total to 189.

    What's the weather like in Bahrain?


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    #9585
    otnomart
    Registered Users Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    iguana wrote: »
    That's great news for him but what a fuçking burden to have to live with for the rest of his life. It was in no way his fault that he spread the virus he was repeatedly told he had the flu. But to have been dubbed as 'patient 1' & 'the Italian superspreader' in a country which has so far shown an absolutely huge mortality rate and put a western democracy into a previously unthinkable kind of lockdown. To be the person placed at the centre of most of the infections in Europe and the massive recession that will almost inevitably follow. It's just so utterly sh^t for him.:(
    Nobody is blaming him.


    If fingers should be pointed, Germany thought they had fully contained the Bavaria outbreak - but now we know they didn't.


    The Bavarian outbreak was started by a Chinese colleague coming from China.
    Article from the New England Journal of Medicine
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...d-mnX3d9F_WRzM


    The strain in Europe is the same and originates from the first patient in Germany, or Bavaria Patient 1 (shortened in BavPat1)
    Research has established the samples from (so far) Switzerland, Finland, Italy, Brazil and Mexico are all related to Bavaria Patient 1 .

    https://nextstrain.org/narratives/ncov/sit-rep/2020-03-05?n=9



    Hypothesis about the spreading of SARS-CoV-2 virus in Europe
    Bavaria BavPat1 -> La Gomera -> Tenerife, Spain -> Italy
    https://markdownshare.com/view/1fa5a...0-da1b19b7adf8


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    #9586
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    iguana wrote: »
    That's great news for him but what a fuçking burden to have to live with for the rest of his life. It was in no way his fault that he spread the virus he was repeatedly told he had the flu. But to have been dubbed as 'patient 1' & 'the Italian superspreader' in a country which has so far shown an absolutely huge mortality rate and put a western democracy into a previously unthinkable kind of lockdown. To be the person placed at the centre of most of the infections in Europe and the massive recession that will almost inevitably follow. It's just so utterly sh^t for him.:(

    Unless this person goes public himself he will not be identified officially at least. Obviously the usual rumours will circulate but that`s just the way it is.


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    #9587
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Graces7 wrote: »
    So my GP AND consultants are wrong? WOW
    Just WOW!

    Even on the anti vaxx thread they want everyone who can to be vaccinated to protect folk with immune deficiency who cannot be vaccinated.

    See how dangerous medical "advice" on this thread can be!

    And please mind your language! REALLY!

    When did you last talk to a GP or Consultant about this?
    From your beloved NHS
    Most immunosuppressed populations are at higher risk of influenza-associated complications, have a general trend toward impaired antibody responses but can be safely vaccinated.
    Such groups are thought to be at higher risk of serious influenza-associated complications and as such are priority groups for immunisation.

    And
    People with ME/CFS, where a dose of flu could cause serious complications, should also discuss having a flu vaccination with their doctor

    As you say, dangerous medical advice on this thread.


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    #9588
    ironingbored
    Registered Users Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    Hello? Is that Sky? Look, I know I cancelled my subscription but could you just let me watch one more match...?

    https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-uk-access-coronavirus-vaccine/amp/?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR08qJv56BCBH1WarVjPl5fzRMzcyoQBW0CbRcghTHiLbrmdYkU-Ik5bOSw


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    #9589
    Stevieluvsye
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    And Taiwan and South Korea were faced with an infinitely more difficult task than us. South Korea had a cult deliberately spread the disease for a week FFS. Also both of them are a stone's throw from the outbreak of the disease (in aviation terms)

    What's this?


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    #9590
    ErnestBorgnine
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭ErnestBorgnine


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Source?

    Michael Osterholm said it on the Rogan Podcast.

    He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota.


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    #9591
    RandomName2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Over 3,000 die is car accidents EVERYDAY...10 MILLION people die of cancer EVERY YEAR...The media/RTE are a joke they even hype up 60mph storms like they are Catergory 5 Hurricanes

    So let me get this right.. you're saying that you wouldn't get rid of all worldwide cancer if the option was presented to you?


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    #9592
    [Deleted User]
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    the deftone wrote: »
    Really frustrated watching all this unfold. Every part of me completely wants to see flights to and from affected areas being grounded, schools closed, events cancelled ect....

    Watching what has happended to Italy makes all this seem like a no brainer.

    However I'm rational enough to know there are people a lot smarter than me advising the government not to do these things yet.

    Can someone please help me understand the reasoning behind this?

    Everywhere is affected though, including Ireland. So that would mean no flights at all. How long do you stay closed for? What happens if we all close down for a few months, things seem better, but then it all just kicks off again when we reopen.


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    #9593
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    hawkwing wrote: »
    You are only allowed to buy one box of paracetamol:o

    You can travel from pharmacy to pharmacy though. In my provincial town there are 6 in walking distance. Some people do that.


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    #9594
    The Rook
    Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭The Rook


    Graces7 wrote: »
    So my GP AND consultants are wrong? WOW
    Just WOW!

    Even on the anti vaxx thread they want everyone who can to be vaccinated to protect folk with immune deficiency who cannot be vaccinated.

    See how dangerous medical "advice" on this thread can be!

    And please mind your language! REALLY!

    Depends on the illness and the severity of said illness (and the individual).
    I am on strong immunosuppressants due to a long term illness and year on year both my GP and my consultants say that I most definitely should get the flu vaccine.

    Having said that it might not be the same for everyone so one can't say that what applies to Peter will apply to Paul.


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    #9595
    MonkstownHoop
    Registered Users Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    the deftone wrote: »
    Really frustrated watching all this unfold. Every part of me completely wants to see flights to and from affected areas being grounded, schools closed, events cancelled ect....

    Watching what has happended to Italy makes all this seem like a no brainer.

    However I'm rational enough to know there are people a lot smarter than me advising the government not to do these things yet.

    Can someone please help me understand the reasoning behind this?

    What will happen of schools close and doctors and nurses can't go to work as they have nobody to mind their kids?


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    #9596
    [Deleted User]
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    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing
    Michael Osterholm (infectious disease specialist) :

    "Hand-sanitizers are a great thing for stopping a lot of infectious diseases ... but the whole issue of using your hands, then touching your face - the data is actually very weak that this kind of virus is going to be transmitted that way.

    I wouldn't tell you to stop using hand-sanitizer, but don't think it's going to have a big impact.

    The data we have on this (spreading via touching your face, touching your eyes etc) is so sparse ... I think the primary thing about hand-washing is that people want to do something. They want to be able to feel like they're doing something... and so we tell them 'wash your hands, often, to prevent this disease' and I feel like we're not really being honest with the people. It's really just about breathing in air, and that's a hard thing to stop.

    So keep doing the hand-washing, but don't think that's going to stop this disease."


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    #9597
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users Posts: 4,680 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Bahrain 79 new cases, bringing their total to 189.

    What's the weather like in Bahrain?

    24 degrees up to 28 and 54% humidity


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    #9598
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Northern Ireland's biggest cinema chain, Omniplex, is introducing a "seat separation" policy in response to coronavirus.

    No more shifting


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    #9599
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Over 3,000 die is car accidents EVERYDAY...10 MILLION people die of cancer EVERY YEAR...The media/RTE are a joke they even hype up 60mph storms like they are Catergory 5 Hurricanes

    Careless driving and cancer is an infectious disease
    This is new


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    #9600
    iguana
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 12,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭iguana


    laurah591 wrote: »
    80% will have mild symptoms - but 1 in 5 will be serious!

    The figure on Worlometers is showing that 88% are mild now with 12% in the serious to critical category. Even in Italy where things are absolutely dire the current number of people in serious/critical condition is 10.3%, nearly 90% of confirmed active cases there are classified as mild.


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    #9601
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae




    Very good interview covers an awful lot of ground.


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