Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

nthclare · 11-03-2020 11:43AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Please don't. Thanks.

Why not surly it's a good thing if we all have no financial difficulty throughout this and there after.

Jim_Hodge · 11-03-2020 11:43AM

nthclare wrote: »

Frequently throughout the day im going to post, this

IF SHUTDOWN OCCURS FREE ELECTRICITY FREEZE UTILITY BILLS AND MORTGAGES ETC
NO CHARGES FOR THE ENERGY USED BETWEEN FREE TIME AND CUTOFF

WE BAILED OUT THE SYSTEM NOW THEY CAN GIVE US BACK OUR DUES

Please don't start spamming a message.

When did we bail out the energy companies?

flynnlives · 11-03-2020 11:44AM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

It’s a disgrace that the cheltenham festival has gone ahead and I say that as a racing fan.there was a confirmed case of carona virus in cheltenham on Monday but yet it has gone ahead with an average of 80000 people attending each day from all over.
Amazingly it was cancelled in respect of the agriculture sector during the foot and mouth crisis but during this worldwide health care crisis it has gone ahead.
It’s madness.in a few weeks if them same race goers turn up sick watch them cry the crocodile tears.they will most likely blame the government for not telling them to stay away from it.
You couldn’t make it up it’s that idiotic

It went ahead becasue the brits have accepted mass deaths. They know that fighing this will need draconian action, lockdowns etc. They cant do that casue their an open economy about to contract due to Brexit anyways.

Funsterdelux · 11-03-2020 11:44AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Great post Boggles.

The advice of our own so called experts to Simon Harris:
1. No need to cancel flights from Italy thereby speeding up new cases into this country and flying people out there to get infected which was as bad
2. No need to self isolate after returning from hotspots until you displayed symptoms even though we know it can be spread before you display symptoms
3. No need to cancel St Patricks days parades - they were embarrassed into doing it eventually
4. No need to close schools - even though we know from the Chinese experience kids can spread it without symptoms
5. Stick a few people in Dublin Airport to hand out leaflets

Our experts have been lagging best practice by weeks in every important area.

What we need to do is to bring back some sort of temp visa system. Some travel is required, goods etc maybe specialists/doctors/officials etc
Just a thought

namloc1980 · 11-03-2020 11:44AM

quokula wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with being rational. It's totally accurate to say 80% of people will be absolutely fine. In fact, far more than 99% of people are absolutely fine in China, Korea and Italy, two of whom have passed their peak, while Italy looks like they're about to pass their peak based on yesterdays numbers. And it's unlikely many other countries will be hit as hard as those three as much more is known at this point.

Patient 1 in Italy is on the road to recovery and will be included in the "absolutely fine" category. He was 3 weeks in intensive care under ventilation. 3 weeks!

New cases in South Korea trippled since yesterday. Saying that because the Italian numbers went down yesterday means they are past their peak is extremely naïve.

Boggles · 11-03-2020 11:45AM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

When did we bail out the energy companies?

Every time they arrive into the regulator and get whatever increase they are after.

tobefrank321 · 11-03-2020 11:45AM

all about the mane wrote: »

You do realise without a functioning economy it will result in more deaths?

Still clinging to a belief the economy will do just fine if 60% of the population get CV?

You will have 60% of the workforce off work with flu at various stages for a start. You will have key people in business and elsewhere dying of a preventable disease if they have an underlying condition.

Ireland will be treated as a pariah state with people refusing to travel here from abroad.

Our healthcare will crumble with people infected and dying of pneumonia.

Schools will have to be closed eventually.

This will last years potentially as a vaccine can never be fully effective.

Or we can put up with a number of months of short term pain up front to get on top of this and hopefully wipe it out completely.

11-03-2020 11:45AM

Stop worrying about people travelling abroad or coming back from Cheltenham etc.

The virus is already here and as it is so contagious, enough people have been exposed to it to allow it to spread throughout most of the population.
Go into any busy town, city, office, supermarket, college, restaurant, train and you will see that there is no way this has not already been spread all over entire country.

Most of those who get it will be absolutely fine.
The best thing to do, as someone WAY up this thread said, is focus on boosting your immune system.

Boggles · 11-03-2020 11:46AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Patient 1 in Italy is on the road to recovery and will be included in the "absolutely fine" category. He was 3 weeks in intensive care under ventilation. 3 weeks!

New cases in South Korea trippled since yesterday. Saying that because the Italian numbers went down yesterday means they are past their peak is extremely naïve.

Apparently there was some problem with testing yesterday in Italy.

The figure they released was based on incomplete information.

If it peaks further today we will know yesterday was a false figure.

otnomart · 11-03-2020 11:46AM

What has worked so far:

23 February: Italy had done 3000 tests and found 132 positive cases
Lockdown starts for the epicentres, population 50000 people, with police and army check points
That paid off : there were no cases in Codogno yesterday

4 March: approx 2700 positive cases - Italy closes schools and universities - nationwide

That worked in South Korea
Hopefully France and Germany will follow suit

namloc1980 · 11-03-2020 11:46AM

nthclare wrote: »

Why not surly it's a good thing if we all have no financial difficulty throughout this and there after.

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay for it.

scamalert · 11-03-2020 11:47AM

flynnlives wrote: »

identified cases are whats has happened 5 to 10 days ago.

Taiwan and South Korea have been extreemely aggressive in tackling this head on.

TBH **** the economy at this stage! This will last most of the year so a global recession is gauranteed.
Lets take the necessery draconian options now whilst we still have time. Acting now may mean we come out of this much better then other countries and we will save a few more lives.

Sitting around and waiting and seeing is folly at this stage. I reckon the brits have priced in massive deaths already and are happy to see this play out. Thats real bad for us. Cheltenham going ahead is whats gonna make this a disaster.

This isnt going to blow over. And i reckon im not overreacting.
The 8th largest economy in the world is in Quarantine ffs! Time to wake up and face facts. This is a global disaster.

what actions are those ? close down everything- shops airports, given $hit irish weather 2 weeks wont change a thing, going into lock down until theres no cases around etc, seems plain stupid. more interested further down the end of year to see actual stats relying on few countries stats is skewed statistics at this point, some say 70-80 pc will get infected here and there, why not just say prob everyone will get affected at some point- sounds more realistic.

Gods Gift · 11-03-2020 11:47AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Patient 1 in Italy is on the road to recovery and will be included in the "absolutely fine" category. He was 3 weeks in intensive care under ventilation. 3 weeks!

New cases in South Korea trippled since yesterday. Saying that because the Italian numbers went down yesterday means they are past their peak is extremely naïve.

That’s got to have a massive impact on your body.

11-03-2020 11:47AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Stop worrying about people travelling abroad or coming back from Cheltenham etc.

The virus is already here and as it is so contagious, enough people have been exposed to it to allow it to spread throughout most of the population.
Go into any busy town, city, office, supermarket, college, restaurant, train and you will see that there is no way this has not already been spread all over entire country.

Most of those who get it will be absolutely fine.
The best thing to do, as someone WAY up this thread said, is focus on boosting your immune system.

Why are you being so sensible and reasonable? Get hysterical

Boggles · 11-03-2020 11:49AM

AIB set to introduced a charge for con-tactless payments.

#timing

otnomart · 11-03-2020 11:50AM

machomac wrote: »

Latest from here in Australia with a breakdown of where the virus was sourced.

machomac wrote: »

15 of the initially reported cases in Australia all had a direct or indirect travel history to Wuhan, China
10 cases, including 1 death, are associated with the Diamond Princess cruise ship repatriation flight from Japan
18 cases are reported to have had a direct or indirect travel link to Iran
39 cases are reported to have had a direct or indirect travel link to countries including the United States of America, United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, Italy, Iceland, Singapore, Thailand, the Republic of Korea, Japan, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan, Cuba, Trinidad and Tobago, Nepal, Egypt, Austria, France, Spain, Hong Kong.
27 cases, including 2 deaths, do not have a reported history of overseas travel

At least one of the UK cases is related to travel in Australia.
This is in addition to the UK case originated in Singapore (the businessman who then travel to the sky resort in France)
"One England sequence clusters distantly with Australian sequences. These may be related by travel history."

https://twitter.com/nextstrain/statu...16085785702406

Graces7 · 11-03-2020 11:50AM

industry accountant wrote: »

Not very useful when out and about though!

Thin rubber gloves which you then discard when you get home or wherever. And avoid touching your face.

Scotty # · 11-03-2020 11:50AM

nthclare wrote: »

Frequently throughout the day im going to post, this

IF SHUTDOWN OCCURS FREE ELECTRICITY FREEZE UTILITY BILLS AND MORTGAGES ETC
NO CHARGES FOR THE ENERGY USED BETWEEN FREE TIME AND CUTOFF

WE BAILED OUT THE SYSTEM NOW THEY CAN GIVE US BACK OUR DUES

How then are the energy supply companies supposed to pay their staff and maintenance bills?

The banks depend on people paying their mortgages to keep them funded. If people stop paying we'll quickly need to refund the banks again.

Daft ideas to be honest.

Mango Joe · 11-03-2020 11:50AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are you being so sensible and reasonable? Get hysterical

I'd also suggest that now is finally the time to throw caution to the winds and take your sexy Neighbour or work Colleague into your arms in a passionate embrace followed by 3 or 4 minutes of amazing love-making......

mcbert · 11-03-2020 11:50AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing

you heard wrong

flynnlives · 11-03-2020 11:51AM

scamalert wrote: »

what actions are those ? close down everything- shops airports, given $hit irish weather 2 weeks wont change a thing, going into lock down until theres no cases around etc, seems plain stupid. more interested further down the end of year to see actual stats relying on few countries stats is skewed statistics at this point, some say 70-80 pc will get infected here and there, why not just say prob everyone will get affected at some point- sounds more realistic.

it will ensure our health system doesnt collapse.
We have only 255 icu beds for the whole country!

Will ye wake up for god's sake, the house is well and trully on fire!

Snow Garden · 11-03-2020 11:51AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing

I heard the complete opposite

gabeeg · 11-03-2020 11:51AM

I can understand their reluctance to shut down schools and unis etc. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. It's a big move.

What I don't understand is why they haven't asked those who can work from home to do just that.
It'll stop tens of thousands of people from congregating together for 9 hours a day, 5 days a week. It'll also get tens of thousands of people off the public transport system and off the roads in general. This will make commutes faster and less crowded.

It will work out fine for the tech companies, and cost the state nothing.

US2 · 11-03-2020 11:51AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing

Just makes people feel like they can do something to fight it eh?

Hamsterchops · 11-03-2020 11:51AM

No vaccine/antidote till at least the Autumn, but I was heartened to hear that there are several drugs currently available to combat the extreme effects of the virus.

Pat Kenny had an expert on the radio this morning (shortly after 9am) and he was talking about several drugs used for other conditions which help Covid-19 patients. One such drug is used with arthritis, and when given to Covid patients it helps with breathing/ lung inflammation, so that's good to hear....

namloc1980 · 11-03-2020 11:51AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

That’s got to have a massive impact on your body.

Indeed. According to reports he's breathing on his own now but facing a long road to recovery.

We only have c.250 ICU beds in Ireland and I'm sure a portion of those are in use for non COVID 19 illnesses. So even a relatively low number of critical cases in Ireland will see ICU beds at full capacity and that won't be good for those who need critical care but there aren't any beds for them.

Gods Gift · 11-03-2020 11:52AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing

Maybe it’ll improve you chance of not transmitting it by %10.

quokula · 11-03-2020 11:52AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Patient 1 in Italy is on the road to recovery and will be included in the "absolutely fine" category. He was 3 weeks in intensive care under ventilation. 3 weeks!

New cases in South Korea trippled since yesterday. Saying that because the Italian numbers went down yesterday means they are past their peak is extremely naïve.

Not sure where you got your South Korean numbers from but the ones I've seen, and I just googled again to double check, say that their number of new cases have continued to drop, and their number of recoveries now outnumber their of new cases so the number of active cases is also continuing to drop.

And I never said anyone who was in intensive care was absolutely fine. I just pointed out that 99.9%+ of people in the absolute worse hit areas of the world haven't even contracted the virus, never mind had mild symptoms.

Scotty # · 11-03-2020 11:52AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing

This is nonsense.

owlbethere · 11-03-2020 11:52AM

Bob24 wrote: »

And they had the ability to add thousands of temporary hospitals beds and deploy a massive amount of medical ventilators within less than 2 weeks.

Are we really confident we can do this kind of thing?

I never thought about that and that's more worrying. China's figures would be skewed more against us because we don't have the resources to deal with a large breakout.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP