Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Duke of Url wrote: »

Ive been following remdesivir since it was first mentioned at the end of January.

They have already ramped up production of remdesivir



The question I have is if it is the turns out successful. Will Gilead release the licence so it can be mass produced around the world to meet demand?

The Chinese didn't even wait. Like a month ago (I've been following this thing very closely since mid Jan) they copped it and started manufacturing without licence.

Really frustrated watching all this unfold. Every part of me completely wants to see flights to and from affected areas being grounded, schools closed, events cancelled ect....

Watching what has happended to Italy makes all this seem like a no brainer.

However I'm rational enough to know there are people a lot smarter than me advising the government not to do these things yet.

Can someone please help me understand the reasoning behind this?

yourdeadwright wrote: »

iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing

Especially after going to the toilet, sure arent we breathing in poo all the time.

RandomName2 wrote: »

I know I've already quoted it before, but it's worth doing again

Dr Paul O’Brien, an Irish regulatory expert based in China, says the most effective mitigation strategy Ireland could have adopted would have been to reduce the risk of infection to zero. “Early adoption of a proactive strategy involving risk-stratified mandatory quarantine of all inward travel from high-risk zones could have made this [the avoidance of panic] a non-issue for Ireland.”

Seeing that Ireland decided not to do this, it is worth getting rid of the infection before it becomes too late to be able to halt the infection.

Stopping flight to risk areas would not have reduced the risk to zero and if the do for used those words then he was very stupid. Would it have reduced it yes probably but not to zero. You know why people can fly from other airports and other countries not hotspots had cases so we could get them from them

quokula wrote: »

Not sure where you got your South Korean numbers from but the ones I've seen, and I just googled again to double check, say that their number of new cases have continued to drop, and their number of recoveries now outnumber their of new cases so the number of active cases is also continuing to drop.

And I never said anyone who was in intensive care was absolutely fine. I just pointed out that 99.9%+ of people in the absolute worse hit areas of the world haven't even contracted the virus, never mind had mild symptoms.

Daily new cases South Korea:
9th March: 165
10th March: 35
11th March: 242

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Once the gloves touch anything they are useless. You can wash your hands as easily, if not more so, as take off rubber gloves. Gloves are for very short term use between patients or possible contaminants. Touching a shopping trolley, picking up goods, handling money, opening a door etc with the same pair of gloves is a futile exercise.

Why, though? It might be easier to discard gloves than have to find somewhere to go and wash your hands, if you're out in public.

Duke of Url wrote: »

Ive been following remdesivir since it was first mentioned at the end of January.

They have already ramped up production of remdesivir



The question I have is if it is the turns out successful. Will Gilead release the licence so it can be mass produced around the world to meet demand?

TBF, I think they'll have to; don't think the Chinese haven't already reverse engineered it anyway.

I think that drug will sort a lot of this out tbh; they will make much more money from a treatment than a vaccine anyway.

the deftone wrote: »

Really frustrated watching all this unfold. Every part of me completely wants to see flights to and from affected areas being grounded, schools closed, events cancelled ect....

Watching what has happended to Italy makes all this seem like a no brainer.

However I'm rational enough to know there are people a lot smarter than me advising the government not to do these things yet.

Can someone please help me understand the reasoning behind this?

It's too late for banning flights to be of use once you have community transmission within your country. It might have worked two or three weeks ago with people going into quarantine from inbound flights than stopping them. Singapore showed the way but this country isn't run by smart people.

cloudatlas wrote: »

There's a running event I'm supposed to be going to in May but I haven't signed up obviously but the amount of people saying 'I've signed up' and continuing to organise is unreal and I heard someone on the bus this morning who was going to a conference who was doubting it would happen but hadn't cancelled. Should we really wait for the government to tell us what we already know? Are we that thick?

Take the power back!

Listen to your gut, its your second brain.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Once the gloves touch anything they are useless. You can wash your hands as easily, if not more so, as take off rubber gloves. Gloves are for very short term use between patients or possible contaminants. Touching a shopping trolley, picking up goods, handling money, opening a door etc with the same pair of gloves is a futile exercise.

I don't know. My skin has cracked in a couple of places on one hand because I spilled a mild bleach solution on it but have continued with over washing and steriliser use that's stripped the skin of it's natural oils. I've been keeping them heavily moisturised while at home but the skin has opened in a couple of places now. I'm going to have to start wearing a rubber glove on that hand now because tiny open cuts are a perfect way for the virus to infect me.

If an elderly person has contracted pneumonia from Covid-19 through community transmission, though is not tested, as is probably the case at the moment, will the individual be routinely tested for coronavirus if they pass away do you think, or will the health service just put pneumonia down as cause of death?

On the one hand, the govt won't want to frighten people with a high mortality rate, but on the other, there would surely be implications for the rest of the family who could contract the virus from them, particularly if some of those are immunocompromised or elderly too.

Hooter23 wrote: »

Over 3,000 die is car accidents EVERYDAY...10 MILLION people die of cancer EVERY YEAR...The media/RTE are a joke they even hype up 60mph storms like they are Catergory 5 Hurricanes

Car accidents and cancer aren't contagious.

flynnlives wrote: »

Taiwan and South Korea have been extreemely aggressive in tackling this head on.

And Taiwan and South Korea were faced with an infinitely more difficult task than us. South Korea had a cult deliberately spread the disease for a week FFS. Also both of them are a stone's throw from the outbreak of the disease (in aviation terms)