Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

RandomName2 · 10-03-2020 7:31pm

SwordofLight wrote: »

Testing people getting off flights from italy or elsewhere is a waste of time because symptoms may not show for 5 days or even at all, as in one of the Wuhan cases where her family got severe pneumonia and she had nothing.

I still think testing people coming from Italy would have been a good idea. Keeping them all in isolation for 7 days would have been a good idea. Doing a followup test after a week would have been a good idea.

Anyway, that ship has now sailed (or that plane has now flown I suppose). There is still much to be done.

caveat emptor · 10-03-2020 7:31pm

aloevera33 wrote: »

What happens people who genuinely have a chest infection ( not coronavirus) and cant visit G.P now

Good question. There are video doctors with VHI plans although they've changed partnerships and no longer possible to do via the app.

It's dead handy, you can use the camera on the phone to show any problems etc.
Might be worth bringing in a national level if this thing rolls on.

Technically not very difficult.

Fr_Dougal · 10-03-2020 7:32pm

Travelers have came out with their own hand washing method:

https://twitter.com/clodaghmeaney_/status/1237448167584608258?s=21

Cuckoo7 · 10-03-2020 7:32pm

Gintonious wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1237458692762677250

Advise for all of us.

It’s too late for us:D

retro:electro · 10-03-2020 7:32pm

There was an old man in Lidl earlier and he was coughing his face off. It sounded more like a “something went down the wrong way” cough than anything else, but his face was gone red and he got so bad he had to sit down on top of the waters to catch a breather. Usually I would ask if he’s alright but I just didn’t take the chance and I feel guilty about it since because everyone was avoiding him.

aloevera33 · 10-03-2020 7:32pm

caveat emptor wrote: »

Good question. There are video doctors with VHI plans although they've changed partnerships and no longer possible to do via the app.

It's dead handy, you can use the camera on the phone to show any problems etc.
Might be worth bringing in a national level if this thing rolls on.

Technically not very difficult.

Good to know thanks

swansea · 10-03-2020 7:33pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Italy death rate has jumped from 168 to 631. They're a lot of teachers around the country who are not young and will have harder time if they get it.

I don't believe for a minute the virus is not spreading.The disease coming in from Italy, the deadly strain of the coronavirus is here. Best to contain now before its too late. We seem to just waiting till more people get before we react.

Gone from 463 to 631, no?

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 10-03-2020 7:33pm

SwordofLight wrote: »

I'm a bit appalled by the handling of this and the attitudes of people in the country.

Testing people getting off flights from italy or elsewhere is a waste of time because symptoms may not show for 5 days or even at all, as in one of the Wuhan cases where her family got severe pneumonia and she had nothing.

A doctor speaking from a hospital in Italy says they are having to choose who gets to live and who dies because they are completely overwhelmed and that even young people are intubated on life support, and to please "stop saying it is like a bad flu."

Why are people going around with an attitude that it is 'inevitable' they will get it, and it is just a bad cold if i do etc?? What about passing it on? What about others?

Why are some people not even bothering with the hand sanitisers coming in and out of offices and universities?

Why on earth are people being forced into meetings and 'business as usual' when this virus can clearly be passed on through breath, sneezing, coughing, laughing, basically being around others.

The virus is killing people, it might not have been expressed fully here yet, but give it another week with these attitudes and we will all be in trouble. Accuse me of scaremongering, blah blah

Unfortunately, people need a sledgehammer in the face in this country, before they get the message sometimes!

Italy had the same numbers as us a little over 3 weeks ago... now they have over 10,000 with over 600 deaths!

If over 600 people were killed by a big bomb call Covid 19... I suspect people might be a bit more inclined to take notice.

thebaz · 10-03-2020 7:33pm

I swim most days , we were all standing around talking about carona virus / precautions and then this guy does a double clear his nose on the path we all walk by , was going to pull him up on it , but would have been a row - but seriously some ****in people.

igCorcaigh · 10-03-2020 7:33pm

fr336 wrote: »

Have to say The Guardian website and app is superb on this - brilliant live updates for UK and internationally, and lots of articles and stats around CV as a whole. If I need the essential info it's my first stop (with Boards a close second obviously)

They're doing a great job.

I see that UK are releasing a data visualisation tool to map geographical spread.

We don't need that of course, with only four options.

dark crystal · 10-03-2020 7:34pm

Stheno wrote: »

Everyone of the 400 odd employees in our Irish offices can work from home

All supplier visits are banned as are attendance at conferences, and visits by contractors

Normally people work from home a day or two a week in my place

One thing I've learned from this virus outbreak is the amount of companies Boardsies work for who allow working from home.

Working in the civil service, the vast majority of employees would never have that option. If we have a cold, we just have to get on with it!

tuxy · 10-03-2020 7:34pm

Virus finally hit my area.
And by that I mean there is no pasta or loo roll in the local tesco.

otnomart · 10-03-2020 7:34pm

is_that_so wrote: »

South Korea - 35 cases today. Going the right way.

Yes.
Only thing that worries me about South Korea is the recovery rate, only less than 300 (according to Worldometers), why is that ?

Stheno · 10-03-2020 7:34pm

retro:electro wrote: »

There was an old man in Lidl earlier and he was coughing his face off. It sounded more like a “something went down the wrong way” cough than anything else, but his face was gone red and he got so bad he had to sit down on top of the waters to catch a breather. Usually I would ask if he’s alright but I just didn’t take the chance and I feel guilty about it since because everyone was avoiding him.

Both my neighbours either side of me are in their mid 70s and the next house is the same

I sincerely hope I will be able to help them if they fall ill

dhaughton99 · 10-03-2020 7:34pm

retro:electro wrote: »

There was an old man in Lidl earlier and he was coughing his face off. It sounded more like a “something went down the wrong way” cough than anything else, but his face was gone red and he got so bad he had to sit down on top of the waters to catch a breather. Usually I would ask if he’s alright but I just didn’t take the chance and I feel guilty about it since because everyone was avoiding him.

So you wouldn’t give him mouth to month?

ZX7R · 10-03-2020 7:34pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Breaking news is it?

It was for me

twirlagig · 10-03-2020 7:35pm

I wish they would mention the towns affected, if not that, even the County would do. Might wake up people a small bit if they know it’s near them.
I honestly cannot get over the amount of people that still seem to not give a fcuk about this.

Ficheall · 10-03-2020 7:35pm

tom1ie wrote: »

Someone earlier posted a link to the breakdown of the Italian stats. I couldn’t open one link and the other link was Italian.
I translated it. Here’s some of the info:

10% of cases are asymptomatic, 5% with few symptoms, 30% with mild symptoms, 31% are symptomatic, 6% have severe symptoms and 19% are critical. 24% of the cases examined are hospitalized. The analysis confirms that 56.6% of the deceased people are over 80 years old, and two thirds of these have 3 or more pre-existing chronic diseases.

So that 56.6% of:

The analysis, out of 8342 positive cases at 9 March at 10 am, shows that 1.4% are under the age of 19, 22.0% are in the 19-50 range, 37.4% between 51 and 70 and 39.2% are over 70, for a median age of 65. 62.1% are men. There are 583 positive health workers.

They are mental stats.

Could you post that link again? Possibly sticky it...

CinemaGuy45 · 10-03-2020 7:36pm

igCorcaigh wrote: »

They're doing a great job.

I see that UK are releasing a data visualisation tool to map geographical spread.

We don't need that of course, with only four options.

Ireland 2020 we have 78 genders but we only have four areas in the entire country.

jopax · 10-03-2020 7:36pm

aloevera33 wrote: »

What happens people who genuinely have a chest infection ( not coronavirus) and cant visit G.P now

That's exactly what I was wondering, if you ring with your symptoms they won't allow you to see your GP, even for kids that might need antibiotics, what's the plan for that?

Sober Crappy Chemis · 10-03-2020 7:36pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Travelers have came out with their own hand washing method:

https://twitter.com/clodaghmeaney_/status/1237448167584608258?s=21

Do facemask on?

solidasarock · 10-03-2020 7:37pm

10 new cases.

It was nice to see the Virus took the weekend easy at least.

mirrorwall14 · 10-03-2020 7:38pm

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Best we've got, officially.

Its something like this....
1 Glasnevin, Dublin Male
2 East of country Female
3 Clare Female
4 Clare Female
5 Clare Male
6 Clare GP Male
7 South of country - Cork Male
8 East link to Trinity Male
9 East Male
10 East Male
11 East Male
12 West -Link to Clare? Female
13 West -Link to Clare? Female
14 East of country Male
15 West -Link to Clare? Female
16 South of country Female
17 South of country Male
18 South of country Female
19 East of country Male
20 East of country Female
21 South of country - Cork Male
22 South of country Female
23 West of country Female
24 South of country Female
25 South Male
26 South Male
27 South Male
28 East Male
29 East Female
30 West -Link to Clare? Male
31 West -Link to Clare? Female
32 South - Link to Cork Case? Female
33 South - Link to Cork Hospital Male
34 East - Possible Hospital Link Female

Beasty · 10-03-2020 7:38pm

A few reminders:

1. Some posters have been less than civil in their posting - particularly in the last few hours. Continue interacting in an uncivil manner and your posting privileges will be removed

2. Until something is reported "officially" treat anything you read here with suspicion. I am not saying posters are deliberately posting misleading or incorrect information, but this site, as well as other social media outlets cannot be considered "verifiable" news outlets. Of course if the likes of the HSE have a verified Twitter account we can assume what they post is accurate. Randomers on here or elsewhere cannot be considered "official" or "reliable" sources

3. I have little doubt there is some kind of lag in reporting "official" updates to numbers as I equally have little doubt there will be procedures to follow before any case becomes formally "confirmed". Hence you may feel you have information that contradicts any "official" information. That's not necessarily the case - it may be that you have access to information before others. Regardless of that do not post it as an actual case here. We can only go by official updates and you can expect others to be sceptical about anything not coming from an official source. That does not make your information wrong, but it needs to be formally verified before you should be claiming anything is "fact"

Any questions, PM me - do not respond to this post in-thread

Stheno · 10-03-2020 7:38pm

dark crystal wrote: »

One thing I've learned from this virus outbreak is the amount of companies Boardsies work for who allow working from home.

Working in the civil service, the vast majority of employees would never have that option. If we have a cold, we just have to get on with it!

Quite frankly I would refuse a job offer if I could not work from home

There are a few of us from my office currently doing it for various mandated reasons and I'm not joking you but the isolation of being at home has strengthened relationships, caused us to look out for each other and generally improved my opinion of my colleagues.

There is a real community spirit of supporting each other

Strazdas · 10-03-2020 7:39pm

Gintonious wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1237458692762677250

Advise for all of us.

Good advice. Unless things turn apocalyptic and like something out of an end of days sci fi movie, the overwhelming number of Irish people will not die of anything corona related.

neonsofa · 10-03-2020 7:39pm

retro:electro wrote: »

There was an old man in Lidl earlier and he was coughing his face off. It sounded more like a “something went down the wrong way” cough than anything else, but his face was gone red and he got so bad he had to sit down on top of the waters to catch a breather. Usually I would ask if he’s alright but I just didn’t take the chance and I feel guilty about it since because everyone was avoiding him.

I said to a colleague earlier that I'm gonna end up choking by trying to suppress my coughs since everyone looks at you funny when you do cough, even to just clear your throat. Maybe thats what happened the poor man!

Gods Gift · 10-03-2020 7:39pm

tuxy wrote: »

Virus finally hit my area.
And by that I mean there is no pasta or loo roll in the local tesco.

Shop here only has single ply toilet paper.
My ass is to posh for dat.

thebaz · 10-03-2020 7:39pm

solidasarock wrote: »

10 new cases.

It was nice to see the Virus took the weekend easy at least.

especially given the number of Italians that were let in for a rugby game that was cancelled 2 weeks ago -

Bobtheman · 10-03-2020 7:40pm

So no school closures ?

jester77 · 10-03-2020 7:40pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I’m NW so no idea what section they’ll shove me in to when I get it.

Nothing in the midlands yet? Our are they counted in those figures?

Xenji · 10-03-2020 7:41pm

twirlagig wrote: »

I wish they would mention the towns affected, if not that, even the County would do. Might wake up people a small bit in they know it’s near them.
I honestly cannot get over the amount of people that still seem to not give a fcuk about this.

It would help dispel rumors, for the the last week I keep hearing 4 people have it in my area and one elderly person with underlying health issues has died from it with an autopsy proving it, even finger pointing is happening at a large employer as rumors that an employee has it and is not self isolating keep being leveled at staff.

PhantomHat · 10-03-2020 7:42pm

thebaz wrote: »

especially given the number of Italians that were let in for a rugby game that was cancelled 2 weeks ago -

Hopefully no Italians brought any virus along with them however if they did it would be days before symptoms would show in the infected

retro:electro · 10-03-2020 7:42pm

Stheno wrote: »

Both my neighbours either side of me are in their mid 70s and the next house is the same

I sincerely hope I will be able to help them if they fall ill

Yep and I think that’s why I feel so guilty and am thinking about it since. How something like this has completely altered how I respond to a situation. Unfortunately I have a close family member who would be in the extremely high risk category so I just could not take the chance. I did take a glance over as I was leaving and he seemed to be pottering about so I’m sure he’s okay.

Strazdas · 10-03-2020 7:42pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

So no school closures ?

Not for now. You would think case numbers would have to go much higher (or something alarming happening in Europe).

Rebelbrowser · 10-03-2020 7:42pm

tom1ie wrote: »

Someone earlier posted a link to the breakdown of the Italian stats. I couldn’t open one link and the other link was Italian.
I translated it. Here’s some of the info:

10% of cases are asymptomatic, 5% with few symptoms, 30% with mild symptoms, 31% are symptomatic, 6% have severe symptoms and 19% are critical. 24% of the cases examined are hospitalized. The analysis confirms that 56.6% of the deceased people are over 80 years old, and two thirds of these have 3 or more pre-existing chronic diseases.

So that 56.6% of:

The analysis, out of 8342 positive cases at 9 March at 10 am, shows that 1.4% are under the age of 19, 22.0% are in the 19-50 range, 37.4% between 51 and 70 and 39.2% are over 70, for a median age of 65. 62.1% are men. There are 583 positive health workers.

They are mental stats.

The symptom analysis is scary but then the age analysis explains it. Only 23.4% of cases are under 50? Only 1.4% are under 19? That shows that cases of young people with the virus are not being picked up as they have v little symptoms so the absence of such asymptomatic cases is skewing the symptoms data and making it look far more severe than it is (not that it isnt severe enough obviously)

twirlagig · 10-03-2020 7:43pm

Xenji wrote: »

It would help dispel rumors, for the the last week I keep hearing 4 people have it in my area and one elderly person with underlying health issues has died from it with an autopsy proving it, even finger pointing is happening at a large employer as rumors that an employee has it and is not self isolating keep being leveled at staff.

Exactly. What is the point in hiding it?

Xertz · 10-03-2020 7:43pm

I'm just wondering about the psychology of this. We could probably all put up with this for a month or two, living like recluses and avoiding contact and so on, but there'll come a point where there's serious issues with how this psychologically impacts a lot of people.

Movementarian · 10-03-2020 7:45pm

otnomart wrote: »

Yes.
Only thing that worries me about South Korea is the recovery rate, only less than 300 (according to Worldometers), why is that ?

Think recovery rates tend to be slower reporting as they have to wait for all symptoms to go and then you need to have two consecutive negative tests over a certain time period.

Theres lots who have recovered but dont show in the official reporting yet. Its annoying me that we are constantly showing the total infection numbers which includes recoveries.

RandomName2 · 10-03-2020 7:45pm

twirlagig wrote: »

Exactly. What is the point in hiding it?

Supposedly to protect the identity of the patients.

otnomart · 10-03-2020 7:45pm

cherryghost wrote: »

Great news, at least on my side!

Mother-in-law has decided not to come, and instead fly back to her homeland, Argentina, tomorrow. Best decision really instead of lumping about in Italy or ****ing our family over in Dublin. A huge sense of relief off my chest anyway.

Hallelujah.
She will be safer in Argentina than in Ireland, only 17 cases there.

thebaz · 10-03-2020 7:45pm

Xertz wrote: »

I'm just wondering about the psychology of this. We could probably all put up with this for a month or two, living like recluses and avoiding contact and so on, but there'll come a point where there's serious issues with how this psychologically impacts a lot of people.

so true, I suffer with anxiety/depression and this is not helping , thats why I keep searching for the little positives - keep me going

swansea · 10-03-2020 7:45pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

So no school closures ?

No. The posts made earlier were, surprisingly, untrue.

PEACEBROTHER · 10-03-2020 7:46pm

If place shuts down I take it means avoiding contact with people - but I take it you could still go Out for a run ?

Boggles · 10-03-2020 7:46pm

Xertz wrote: »

I'm just wondering about the psychology of this. We could probably all put up with this for a month or two, living like recluses and avoiding contact and so on, but there'll come a point where there's serious issues with how this psychologically impacts a lot of people.

It's the primary reason to delay phase 2 apparently.

fr336 · 10-03-2020 7:46pm

Strazdas wrote: »

Not for now. You would think case numbers would have to go much higher (or something alarming happening in Europe).

Something alarming like Italy going into lockdown? :pac:

cannotlogin · 10-03-2020 7:46pm

I don't understand the obsession with knowing where the cases are.

Surely people should take the exact same precautions no matter where.

It's a rapidly moving contagious disease and we are a small country.

Just assume it's everywhere because if it isn't it soon will be.

drunkmonkey · 10-03-2020 7:47pm

jester77 wrote: »

Nothing in the midlands yet? Our are they counted in those figures?

Ohh yes there is, could be counted in those figures hard to know as they drive to work in one area but live in the other. I'd like to know where the south west midland lines are. Not going to say it so no point anyone pm'n me but the **** has truly hit the fan.
They need to name towns asap what's going on is bull**** and putting people right in the firing line.

smelly sock · 10-03-2020 7:47pm

Im expecting to be told Friday evening that the building wont be open for the for the forseeable future and to work from home. Public sector.

igCorcaigh · 10-03-2020 7:48pm

PEACEBROTHER wrote: »

If place shuts down I take it means avoiding contact with people - but I take it you could still go Out for a run ?

Well, Jon Snow was allowed out for a cycle.

I'd imagine going for a run is perfectly fine as long as you don't stop to chat to people for too long.

Although if you're isolated for symptoms, you may not feel like running.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP