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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    pearcider wrote: »
    Global capitalism is not capitalism at all. It’s crony capitalism at best and facism or national socialism at worst. The merger of state and corporate power is a succinct definition of facism.

    This seems to have been largely forgotten. I agree with you, this is exactly where we are now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    pearcider wrote: »
    I think it’s fairly obvious from the thread.

    Which is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Lol, this is fiunny.

    I've learned in the last day or two, the KingMob only replies to a single question with at least 5 or 7 of his own, a default trivial pointless exercise in time wasting, that is best ignored (and will be).

    Welcome to my world ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Welcome to my world ;)

    In fairness you're a holocaust denier who believes in all sorts of zany theories. People who believe in irrational made-up stuff don't like being rationally questioned about it.

    Agitators and contrarians are just along for the ride.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    In fairness you're a holocaust denier who believes in all sorts of zany theories. People who believe in irrational made-up stuff don't like being rationally questioned about it.

    Agitators and contrarians are just along for the ride.

    I debate real events in history.
    My three primary interests of discussion on this forum is JFK, UFOS, and 9/11 

    Do i believe a holocust happened ( yes)
    Do i believe Jews were killed during the war ( yes)
    Do i believe Jews were gassed ( yes) there evidence for it 
    Do i believe the numbers of Jewish deaths is correct ( no)

    If i am holocust denier for saying this fine.  I will take the tag. Do you feel better now?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    I look forward to the inevitable word salad buffet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    In fairness ....
    In fairness you want everyone chipped at birth, by a combination nightmare of the Rockerfellas' meets BillyGates after a long night on the whisky.

    It's hard to seperate stamping someones arm with numbers and giving them a free gold star for identification. ...To injectiing them with persistant nano-technology DigitalID, that will control their future Orwellian ability to spend digital money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    In fairness you want everyone chipped at birth, by a combination nightmare of the Rockerfellas' meets BillyGates after a long night on the whisky.

    It's hard to seperate stamping someones arm with numbers and giving them a free gold star for identification. ...To injectiing them with persistant nano-technology DigitalID, that will control their future Orwellian ability to spend digital money.

    In your mind, that's what ID2020 is? Interesting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Welcome to my world ;)


    Reckon also they're husband-married to each other (DoeJoe and the King) either that, or perhaps a split personality? As there's neither one, without the other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    In your mind, that's what ID2020 is? Okay.
    So you're saying it isn't a persistant birth-to-death unique biometric DigialID platform? That isn't supported by BGates & the Rockerfellas.
    Okaaaay...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    The second amendment could yet prove useful.

    Just figure out the dangerous end first. Can’t have people getting hut playing out their action movie fantasies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    So you're saying it isn't a persistant birth-to-death unique biometric DigialID platform? That isn't supported by BGates & the Rockerfellas.
    Okaaaay...

    lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    lol
    lol, you've actually seen their website, right?
    https://id2020.org/alliance

    Since 1913, the Rockefeller Foundation has sought to improve the well-being of humanity around the world [lol]. The Rockefeller Foundation provided ID2020 with seed funding in in 2017 and has been an ongoing supporter of ID2020’s work.

    The American multinational technology company joined ID2020 in January 2018 as a founding partner. Members of the Microsoft team sit on ID2020’s Technical and Program Delivery Advisory Committees.

    Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance brings together public and private sectors with the shared goal of creating equal access to new and underused vaccines for children living in the world’s poorest countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    lol, you've actually seen their website, right?
    https://id2020.org/alliance

    Since 1913, the Rockefeller Foundation has sought to improve the well-being of humanity around the world [lol]. The Rockefeller Foundation provided ID2020 with seed funding in in 2017 and has been an ongoing supporter of ID2020’s work.

    The American multinational technology company joined ID2020 in January 2018 as a founding partner. Members of the Microsoft team sit on ID2020’s Technical and Program Delivery Advisory Committees.

    Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance brings together public and private sectors with the shared goal of creating equal access to new and underused vaccines for children living in the world’s poorest countries.

    Oooh, I get you now, they are evil yeah?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭str8talkingguy


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Oooh, I get you now, they are evil yeah?

    Centralizing this kind of power is the definition of evil imo,but we can't stop it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Centralizing this kind of power is the definition of evil imo,but we can't stop it now.

    Can't stop what exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭str8talkingguy


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Can't stop what exactly?

    Psychotic power hungry humans with so much money and wealth they have nothing else to do only experiment on the rest of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Oooh, I get you now, they are evil yeah?
    So folks that (openly) plan to microchop the newly born, for digital persistant biometric IDs, including any ability of fiscal transactions (including ability to deny), are now the good aul guys eh?

    Ah get you now. Were you maybe not loved as a child, and now as a result harbour such clear distain for the basic normal freedoms of humanity? Ah well, it's to be expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Psychotic power hungry humans with so much money and wealth they have nothing else to do only experiment on the rest of us.

    Okay, like who? and what are they doing exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Reckon also they're husband-married to each other (DoeJoe and the King) either that, or perhaps a split personality? As there's neither one, without the other.


    Most Debunkers will look at this fighter plane radar screenshot and only see a bird or balloon.
    505045.png

    Show the same photo ( to someone like me UFO believer )  I describe it as a physical object motionless in the sky. In a later image the object will suddenly fly off screen, when the fighter jet got tighter to it! Who's correct? 

    Fact we see different things ( even though are looking at the same image) means the Debunker brain is wired differently. I don't really find it odd, conspiracies theories are seen as nutty, weird, odd. Many humans are not tuned on same frequency.

    Dohnjoe wll never be able to understand you because his frequency is tuned to debunk conspiracies. When you have a belief the world is not a strange place you will act out against others who position otherwise.. He appears to not believe governments conspire to cover up and hide facts from the communities they govern. So talk about chipping societies in the future doesn’t compute for him. 
    [/LEFT]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭str8talkingguy


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Okay, like who? and what are they doing exactly?

    At the end of the day,its pointless because cognitive dissonance cannot be broken with discussion or debate only experience,you will argue till your blue in the face.

    Such is the nature of cognitive dissonance you are only here arguing from a Psychological perspective,no words or evidence is ever going to change that for you,only experience can break its hold on you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    At the end of the day,its pointless because cognitive dissonance cannot be broken with discussion or debate only experience,you will argue till your blue in the face.

    Such is the nature of cognitive dissonance you are only here arguing from a Psychological perspective,no words or evidence is ever going to change that for you,only experience can break its hold on you.

    Indeed.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Again rather than detail the conspiracy and answer simple direct questions, people are throwing around personal comments.
    It's very odd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    King Mob wrote: »
    Again rather than detail the conspiracy and answer simple direct questions, people are throwing around personal comments.
    It's very odd.

    They just want to be seen to go against the “main stream”, gibes them the smug feeling that they know something the sheeple don’t know and feeds into a kind of saviour complex be cause they are fighting agin the Payseurs and Rockafellars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭str8talkingguy


    Ipso wrote: »
    They just want to be seen to go against the “main stream”, gibes them the smug feeling that they know something the sheeple don’t know and feeds into a kind of saviour complex be cause they are fighting agin the Payseurs and Rockafellars.

    There's people with open minds willing to listen to peoples theories with respect and there's people who come in here to disparage peoples theories and throw out the usual cliches about conspiracies to try to feel superior because they are stepped on in their personal lives.

    No point in entertaining these weak disrespectful people is my point and you are one,i assumed people here only want to converse with open minds on this thread,but sadly like a lot of areas in life we get weak interlopers like yourself who come in here to ask someone their theory so you can disparage them.

    Take some more control in your personal life and stand up for yourself and you won't find yourself falling into threads like this to try and feel superior,you are the weak one my friend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    i assumed people here only want to converse with open minds on this thread

    I've noticed "open minds" in conspiracy circles usually translates into "like-minded people who will validate whatever fringe view I have without question"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Ipso wrote: »
    Rockafellars.

    Plainly horrendous people

    I'm not sure of the link to Corona virus, but hey they seem to blamed for everything, so there must a tenuous link there somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,875 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    So what is the theory here exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Plainly horrendous people
    I'm not sure of the link to Corona virus, but hey they seem to blamed for everything, so there must a tenuous link there somewhere
    No direct link to the COVID19 (which is more of convience). But plenty of dots linking towards taking opportunistic advantage of these regular events (directly funding future mass vaccine programes using biometric nano chips).

    https://id2020.org/alliance

    Incidently JoeDoe approves of such a move (persistant biometrics from birth to death), what a spendid chap he is.

    They're reaaal nice people, even if you assume only 5% of dozens, upon dozens, of theories about them hold valid: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rockefeller_conspiracy_theories (this wiki looks like a flippant sponsored anti-theory site within itself, also to be taken with a grain of salt).

    Their overall wealth this century, would even make this decades richest lad: B'Gates blush. Not the 0.01%, but the actual 0.0000001% percent. One trait runs through these folks: power and 'control'.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No direct link to the COVID19 (which is more of convience). But plenty of dots linking towards taking opportunistic advantage of these regular events (directly funding future mass vaccine programes using biometric nano chips).
    But this exact thing has been claimed about Swine flu and bird flu and SARS...

    It appears that your conspiracy theory is not much different.

    Though you aren't going as far as to claim such biometric chips are the literal "Mark of the Beast."


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