Coronavirus

The chan chan man

I’m surprised this isn’t here already.. but do people actually believe this started with some clown eating a bat???

The chan chan man

The chan chan man wrote: »

I’m surprised this isn’t here already.. but do people actually believe this started with some clown eating a bat???

Why is that such a hard thing to believe?

tuxy

There is a poster in the current affairs thread that claims the CIA have publicly announced that there is an advanced bioweapons lab in Wuhan.
They are currently unable to provide a source for that information but perhaps this thread will give them that operinity.

1641

The chan chan man wrote: »

I’m surprised this isn’t here already.. but do people actually believe this started with some clown eating a bat???

The Russians have it sorted. Its economic war!


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51599009

s7ryf3925pivug

1641 wrote: »

The Russians have it sorted. Its economic war!


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51599009

So the actual conspiracy is to spread conspiracy theories. Meta conspiracy theory.

Some of the CT I've seen:
Bill Gates did it to reduce the human population
China developed it as a weapon and released it by accident
China developed it as a weapon and released it deliberately. (Dunno why?)
The CIA did it. Economic war on China.

One thing that will probably happen is that it will be weaponized. Malign actors such as terrorists will seek to spread it among their perceived enemies, and it will be difficult to police against that.

6541

Question? Will i be okay to go to Spain in 2 weeks time?

punisher5112

Greta

The chan chan man

6541 wrote: »

Question? Will i be okay to go to Spain in 2 weeks time?

Probably not.. Italy have cancelled todays 6 nations. Its only s matter of time...

The chan chan man

King Mob wrote: »

Why is that such a hard thing to believe?

I could eat dinosaur sh1t marinated in leper’s plss and not infect the rest of ye with anything!

There is a bioweapon lab in Wuhan and while it may not have been intentional I guess this is their equivalent of a leak at Ringsend!

Titclamp

Why won't China let other countries top specialists to help with the virus?

The chan chan man

The chan chan man wrote: »

I could eat dinosaur sh1t marinated in leper’s plss and not infect the rest of ye with anything!

I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you saying that viruses can't be transferred from animals to humans?

The chan chan man wrote: »

There is a bioweapon lab in Wuhan and while it may not have been intentional I guess this is their equivalent of a leak at Ringsend!

How do you know there was a bioweapon lab there?

Titclamp

King Mob wrote: »

I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you saying that viruses can't be transferred from animals to humans?

How do you know there was a bioweapon lab there?

You don't even know there's that's where the SARS originally came from too?

Dohnjoe

Brayan Crooked Self-government wrote: »

Some of the CT I've seen:
Bill Gates did it to reduce the human population
China developed it as a weapon and released it by accident
China developed it as a weapon and released it deliberately. (Dunno why?)
The CIA did it. Economic war on China.

It's whatever the conspiracy community can dream up. And they can imagine a lot.

Ipso

They’re not very good at developing bio-weapons, the regular flu is way ahead of them.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

Ludo

First world leader falls to CoronaVirus?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-slovakia-election-primeminister/slovak-pm-pellegrini-cancels-schedule-due-to-illness-idUSKCN20H0A9

Not Good!!!

_Brian

There’s been allot of talk about a Chinese National, a bioscience expert who was working in the Canadian national lab and also working in Wuhan to set up a bio lab there.

She and all her team were expelled from Canada for some irregularities.

There was allot of talk in the beginning that this is the source and they were working on this sort of virus there, but I’ve read nothing about that idea recently.

Rather than eating animals, it’s being close and close for long periods that often causes virus to spread to new hosts. Animal markets therefore would be a good potential breeding ground.

Titclamp

_Brian wrote: »

There’s been allot of talk about a Chinese National, a bioscience expert who was working in the Canadian national lab and also working in Wuhan to set up a bio lab there.

She and all her team were expelled from Canada for some irregularities.

There was allot of talk in the beginning that this is the source and they were working on this sort of virus there, but I’ve read nothing about that idea recently.

Rather than eating animals, it’s being close and close for long periods that often causes virus to spread to new hosts. Animal markets therefore would be a good potential breeding ground.

Some Harvard scientist can arrested. For espionage.

Titclamp

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/28/us/charles-lieber-harvard.amp.html

4068ac1elhodqr

It sure would be an ideal time to roll out a global VAX if COVID mutates, they've been loosing popularity in recent times (MMR etc), so this would push them back in the limelight.
BillGates would likely be able to throw a few hundred million behind a fast global vax rollout, before the end of the year.

Question. Take the risk of a flu, or take the risk of a new (rushed vax), backed/financed by Gates?

Alena Tangy Someone

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

It sure would be an ideal time to roll out a global VAX if COVID mutates, they've been loosing popularity in recent times (MMR etc), so this would push them back in the limelight.
BillGates would likely be able to throw a few hundred million behind a fast global vax rollout, before the end of the year.

Question. Take the risk of a flu, or take the risk of a new (rushed vax), backed/financed by Gates?

Why would Bill Gates finance a new vaccine?

4068ac1elhodqr

King Mob wrote: »

Why would Bill Gates finance a new vaccine?

Is this a genuine question?

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation announced Jan 26th that it is immediately committing $10 million in efforts to contain the global spread of 2019-nCoV. This was increased to $100m in February for the renamed COVID19.

Of the total, $60 million will fund diagnostics, treatments, and vaccines development. Already has paid CEPI towards previous vaccines (Ebola).
He is also connected to the Pirbright Insitute, which worked on gene editing infectious bronchitis virus (IBV).

He previously stated any vaccine for a 'Pandemic X' would take up to 5yrs, so if he can rush one out quickly, will be seen as a hero.

For better (or worse) he will be involved.

Ipso

I miss the George Soros conspiracies.

imfml

6541 wrote: »

Question? Will i be okay to go to Spain in 2 weeks time?

Yes

Titclamp

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Is this a genuine question?

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation announced Jan 26th that it is immediately committing $10 million in efforts to contain the global spread of 2019-nCoV. This was increased to $100m in February for the renamed COVID19.

Of the total, $60 million will fund diagnostics, treatments, and vaccines development. Already has paid CEPI towards previous vaccines (Ebola).
He is also connected to the Pirbright Insitute, which worked on gene editing infectious bronchitis virus (IBV).

He previously stated any vaccine for a 'Pandemic X' would take up to 5yrs, so if he can rush one out quickly, will be seen as a hero.

For better (or worse) he will be involved.

He's always spouting on about apocalyptic catastrophe.

Must be some money in it if that's the case with all his investment.

Ipso

Titclamp wrote: »

He's always spouting on about apocalyptic catastrophe.

Must be some money in it if that's the case with all his investment.

Alannis Morrisette could write a song about that.

Ipso

From the Ebola conspiracy theory dungeon. Conspiracy theories are little more than blank templates, insert latest disease and you’re an expert.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/aug/11/blog-posting/bloggers-bill-and-melinda-gates-george-soros-funde/

And SARS
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS_conspiracy_theory

Titclamp

Ipso wrote: »

From the Ebola conspiracy theory dungeon. Conspiracy theories are little more than blank templates, insert latest disease and you’re an expert.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/aug/11/blog-posting/bloggers-bill-and-melinda-gates-george-soros-funde/

And SARS
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS_conspiracy_theory

Still no vaccine for SARS

Ipso

Titclamp wrote: »

Still no vaccine for SARS

Maybe Bill will come out with a double whammy, SARS and Corona.
It didn't wipe out humanity either, so Bill gates isn't very good ant his depopulation agenda, is he?

Titclamp

Ipso wrote: »

Maybe Bill will come out with a double whammy, SARS and Corona.
It didn't wipe out humanity either, so Bill gates isn't very good ant his depopulation agenda, is he?

Who said any thing about depopulating?

Isn't finding vaccination the opposite?

How does your brain perceive anything?

Ipso

Bill Gates is the tin foiler bogey man for human depopulation.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/

So what's the real conspiracy now? An attempt to counteract anti vaxers, testing bio-weapons, accidental release from a lab

Titclamp

Ipso wrote: »

Bill Gates is the tin foiler bogey man for human depopulation.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/

So what's the real conspiracy now? An attempt to counteract anti vaxers, testing bio-weapons, accidental release from a lab

Who'd buy his stupid products then to keep him filthy rich?

If there's coin to be made in vaccination he'd be right in there from all his investments.

Alena Tangy Someone

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Is this a genuine question?

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation announced Jan 26th that it is immediately committing $10 million in efforts to contain the global spread of 2019-nCoV. This was increased to $100m in February for the renamed COVID19.

Of the total, $60 million will fund diagnostics, treatments, and vaccines development. Already has paid CEPI towards previous vaccines (Ebola).
He is also connected to the Pirbright Insitute, which worked on gene editing infectious bronchitis virus (IBV).

He previously stated any vaccine for a 'Pandemic X' would take up to 5yrs, so if he can rush one out quickly, will be seen as a hero.

For better (or worse) he will be involved.

Ok. And?
Why would he be involved? How does it benefit him? Why is it a bad thing?
Did he develop and release this new virus?

Titclamp

King Mob wrote: »

Ok. And?
Why would he be involved? How does it benefit him? Why is it a bad thing?
Did he develop and release this new virus?

Can you not ask him yourself or do some research on it. He is a well known philanthropist if you no aware.

Why do the richest men in the world put money in things I wonder?

Titclamp

Titclamp wrote: »

Can you not ask him yourself or do some research on it. He is a well known philanthropist if you no aware.

Why do the richest men in the world put money in things I wonder?

Or I can ask people who seem to think that he's involved in this conspiracy theory why he's involved...?

Are you suggesting that he is making money off vaccines?

Dohnjoe

Titclamp wrote: »

Can you not ask him yourself or do some research on it. He is a well known philanthropist if you no aware.

Why do the richest men in the world put money in things I wonder?

You answered your own question

Titclamp

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You answered your own question

I wasn't even asking a question. How thick are you.

4068ac1elhodqr

King Mob wrote: »

Ok. And?
Why would he be involved? How does it benefit him? Why is it a bad thing?
Did he develop and release this new virus?

You have exceeded your quota of pointless question marks for today, please calm down and compose yourself for better debate or discussion.

Rather than the usual ever so innocent and ever-repetitive: "who/what/why/when/where/which????", otherwise you can join simply the ignore list.

Actually, it's probably likely I'll simply ignore your pointless non-stop questioning of every single thing regardless, as it demonstrates strong bias and a lack of any grain of substance, value or creditbility.

Titclamp

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

You have exceeded your quota of pointless question marks for today, please calm down and compose yourself for better debate or discussion.

Rather than the usual ever so innocent and ever-repetitive: "who/what/why/when/where/which????", otherwise you can join simply the ignore list.

Actually, it's probably likely I'll simply ignore your pointless non-stop questioning of every single thing regardless, as it demonstrates strong bias and a lack of any grain of substance, value or creditbility.

I don't think you can research much on Joe.ie unfortunately.

Dohnjoe

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

You have exceeded your quota of pointless question marks for today, please calm down and compose yourself for better debate or discussion.

Rather than the usual ever so innocent and ever-repetitive: "who/what/why/when/where/which????", otherwise you can join simply the ignore list.

Actually, it's probably likely I'll simply ignore your pointless non-stop questioning of every single thing regardless, as it demonstrates strong bias and a lack of any grain of substance, value or creditbility.

What's the conspiracy?

I heard Joe that if you think about China, you become a host to this insidious virus. What should I do Joe, have you got an answer. Joe. Joe?

Ted_YNWA

Titclamp wrote: »

I wasn't even asking a question. How thick are you.

Smart enough not to insult people.

Alena Tangy Someone

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

You have exceeded your quota of pointless question marks for today, please calm down and compose yourself for better debate or discussion.

Rather than the usual ever so innocent and ever-repetitive: "who/what/why/when/where/which????", otherwise you can join simply the ignore list.

Actually, it's probably likely I'll simply ignore your pointless non-stop questioning of every single thing regardless, as it demonstrates strong bias and a lack of any grain of substance, value or creditbility.

Again, I don't understand why simple direct questions result in a reaction like this.
I'm also not sure why you are telling me to calm down?

Maybe you could go back and explain in clear terms why you think that Bill Gates is involved in the conspiracy?

ayzeb123

It's not a Bioweapons lab, it's the Wuhan Institute of Virology and they do research on viruses and have been researching corona viruses after the SARS outbreak. (only 1 in China) It's very close to the Seafood Market apparently, (the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak) within walking distance they say. Also close to the Seafood Market is the Wuhan Centre of Disease Prevention & Control (24 Jianghan N Rd, Jiang'an District, Wuhan, Hubei, China) this place does research on animals. apparently they were housing over 600 diseased bats. It doesn't take much to think the virus may have originated from one of these places. But we'll never know.

The Nal

King Mob wrote: »

Again, I don't understand why simple direct questions result in a reaction like this.
I'm also not sure why you are telling me to calm down?

Maybe you could go back and explain in clear terms why you think that Bill Gates is involved in the conspiracy?

C'mon KM its quite simple. A brief, baseless allusion to Bill Gates being involved in the spreading of the virus but its up to you to prove that he isn't. If you can't prove this negative, well, then that proves that he is.

"Bill Gates is involved"

"How?"

"Calm down. Stop asking me all these questions".

4068ac1elhodqr

The Nal wrote: »

...baseless allusion to Bill Gates being involved in the spreading of the virus....

This is a nonsense baseless suggestion, have you any evidence to back up this claim?

Gates is however very keen to roll out as many 'vaccines' (not viruses) as possible, when the opportunity presents.

Has for a long time been invested in the vax industry on a global level. Has already invested millions in vacccine programs for this latest one. Perhaps for fiscal gain, altruistic ego boost, or some other vested interset.

One would just hope any vax would be 100% safe, if it was be rolled out out at record speeds, and at record distribution. Perhaps at a scale, and pace never seen before, with far greater penetration rates than the Flu itself.

4068ac1elhodqr

ayzeb123 wrote: »

Apparently they were housing over 600 diseased bats. It doesn't take much to think the virus may have originated from one of these places. But we'll never know.

Who knows for sure, perhaps if their outdoor bin was overflowing with so many animals getting processed or tested, some building porter (or other staff/non-staff), might have sold them on to the nearby market for pocket money. Wonder what the going price for a oven ready bat would be in Wuhan.

old_aussie

6541 wrote: »

Question? Will i be okay to go to Spain in 2 weeks time?

NO!

old_aussie

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

Smart enough not to insult people.

That sounds very "self opinionated", which is a conspiracy all by itself.

Alena Tangy Someone

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

This is a nonsense baseless suggestion, have you any evidence to back up this claim?

Why bring him up?

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Has for a long time been invested in the vax industry on a global level. Has already invested millions in vacccine programs for this latest one. Perhaps for fiscal gain, altruistic ego boost, or some other vested interset.

Do you have any evidence that:
1. He is gaining financially from his charity work?
and
2. that any such gains are illegal or untoward?

Cause otherwise, suggesting that it is somehow sinister or suspicious is a bit baseless.

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

One would just hope any vax would be 100% safe, if it was be rolled out out at record speeds, and at record distribution. Perhaps at a scale, and pace never seen before, with far greater penetration rates than the Flu itself.

Again, what has this to do with Bill Gates? What has this to do with any conspiracy?

I know you don't like questions, but you don't seem to be actually putting much forward...

Dohnjoe

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Gates is however very keen to roll out as many 'vaccines' (not viruses) as possible, when the opportunity presents.

Has for a long time been invested in the vax industry on a global level. Has already invested millions in vacccine programs for this latest one. Perhaps for fiscal gain, altruistic ego boost, or some other vested interset.

One would just hope any vax would be 100% safe, if it was be rolled out out at record speeds, and at record distribution. Perhaps at a scale, and pace never seen before, with far greater penetration rates than the Flu itself.

Okay, but what is the conspiracy? is there one?

4068ac1elhodqr

King Mob wrote: »

Why bring him up?

It's common public knowledge he's vested (in various means, fiscal or otherwise) in the vax industry. And has just invested millions in a vax for the latest coronavirus.

Someone else (The Nal) suggested he had something to do with the virus itself, which is very sinister and baseless. It's simply a circumstancal situation.

'Please note': You have now *exceeded your questions for today* (6 at once???). KingMob, Please lay down in a dark room, reduce coffee consumption and relax. Maybe do a crossword or stroke a stray cat to try and stay calm, particularly as we begin enter pandemic status. Tally ho.