Coronavirus

King Mob

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Some people, somewhere else, at some time in the past may well have done, ah who knows, not aware of these claims, as much as you appear to be.

Digital persistant biometric IDs aren't planned for completion until 2030, so no great rush anyway for id2020.

Not sure about your suggesiton for 'martial law etc', maybe you've been reading too many tabloid papers?
e.g. that outline plans across the water for additional forces to be brought in when the cops there all get this flu.
You may get a curfew or two, that's about it.

What leads you to the conclusion that I am suggesting that martial law will happen?
I pretty explicitly say I don't believe that.

I'm pointing out that conspiracy theorists have made similar claims to yours in previous outbreaks. They were all wrong. I suspect that you are wrong also.

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King Mob wrote: »

What leads you to the conclusion that I am suggesting that martial law will happen?

Why did you even bring such a subject up?
A conspiracy of sorts, even giving credence to such an event.
Can't say anyone else here has mentioned 'martial law' until right now. Very odd.
If again you're trying to wedge in other specific conspiracy theories made by someone else, somewhere else, at some else time in the past, sure that's a conspiracy within itself.

The papers ran a story yesterday on bringing in troops to replace ill cops, can't say that amounts to actual martial law you mentioned?

King Mob wrote: »

I'm pointing out that conspiracy theorists have made similar claims to yours in previous outbreaks. They were all wrong. I suspect that you are wrong also.

I'm pointing out your repeated attempts pin other peoples theories (that am not aware of) made elsewhere, at another time, on other people.
Then conclude absoloutely everything is wrong, lazy at best no?

Only mentioned id2020.org as being a curiousity by itself.
Came across it on the google search just this week (see below).

It implies some sort of unique persistant biometric digital ID, never seen before.
who knows for sure what it is, simply an oddity do you not think?
Maybe it's fine, maybe not.

Dohnjoe

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Another interesting thread from the 31st Jan on 4chan

How did he know Italy was going to be hit?

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/241674007

Quote
"Remember, the most optimistic prediction at this point is 60,000 people are going to get killed in the next few months. It's highly infectious with an R6, probable chance of further mutations, infectious during the prodromal phase, and it's airborne. The only reason you're not already seeing thousands of people confirmed outside of China yet is because the incubation period but believe me the WHO is already talking about how "problematic" modeling the Chinese response in Western countries is going to be, and the first country they want to try it out in is Italy. If it begins a large outbreak in a major Italian city they want to work through the Italian authorities and world health organizations to begin locking down Italian cities in a vain attempt to slow down the spread at least until they can develop and distribute vaccines, which btw is where you need to start investing"

How do you think he knew?

Dohnjoe

King Mob wrote: »

What leads you to the conclusion that I am suggesting that martial law will happen?
I pretty explicitly say I don't believe that.

I'm pointing out that conspiracy theorists have made similar claims to yours in previous outbreaks. They were all wrong. I suspect that you are wrong also.

"So you're suggesting martial law will happen, very odd that, why are you so obsessed with martial law?"

And so on and so forth

Back to Coronavirus, looks like Zuckerberg is feeling the pressure to crack down on the conspiracies
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51739846

King Mob

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Why did you even bring such a subject up?
A conspiracy of sorts, even giving credence to such an event.
Can't say anyone else here has mentioned 'martial law' until right now. Very odd.
If again you're trying to wedge in other specific conspiracy theories made by someone else, somewhere else, at some else time in the past, sure that's a conspiracy within itself.

The papers ran a story yesterday on bringing in troops to replace ill cops, can't say that amounts to actual martial law you mentioned?



I'm pointing out your repeated attempts pin other peoples theories (that am not aware of) made elsewhere, at another time, on other people.
Then conclude absoloutely everything is wrong, lazy at best no?

Only mentioned id2020.org as being a curiousity by itself.
Came across it on the google search just this week (see below).

It implies some sort of unique persistant biometric digital ID, never seen before.
who knows for sure what it is, simply an oddity do you not think?
Maybe it's fine, maybe not.

Again, I'm just pointing out the similarities between those conspiracy theories and the ones you are nebulously suggesting.
They are similar in that they also sprang from outbreaks.
Importantly, and this seems to be an issue you are having, I don't believe those conspiracy theories as they were wrong.

ryansmith171

The coronavirus could wipe out the world

ryansmith171

Ireland are not prepared

ryansmith171

simon harris is a joke

Ipso

bot tastic

TomSweeney

ryansmith171 wrote: »

Ireland are not prepared

ryansmith171 wrote: »

The coronavirus could wipe out the world

ryansmith171 wrote: »

simon harris is a joke

Just as well you signed up yesterday to tell us all this!!

moonlighting_1

Guys there is a video going about where this was all predicted years ago. Also talk of nukes and WW3
Listen to entire video
Bio-weapon virus talk at 12 min mark

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracytheories/comments/ffal5r/all_of_your_questions_are_answered/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Dohnjoe

moonlighting_1 wrote: »

Guys there is a video going about where this was all predicted years ago. Also talk of nukes and WW3
Listen to entire video
Bio-weapon virus talk at 12 min mark

Possibly a little off the mark

Historians tell us that the "Anglo-Saxon Mission" refers to the spread of christianity in the 8th century. But over a thousand years later, there is now another, far more sinister meaning to the phrase.

We recently received 11 pages of information from an insider who was physically present at a meeting of Senior Masons in the City of London in 2005. What was discussed is chilling to the bone.

I (Bill) did an audio interview with our 'source', an Englishman whose identity we have verified with all details known and confirmed. This man, like many we have spoken with, is no longer able to live with his conscience or to keep this information secret.

My original idea was to release a transcript of the interview, as we have done in the past. But the material it covers is so critical - and, for me, the missing pieces it provided were so important - that I've taken the step to present the information on video.



The audio transcript with our 'source', who is not on the video, is available far below.

What our 'source' reports is this:

"There is a planned Third World War, which will be nuclear and biological. Our 'source' believes that this is on track to be initiated within the next 18-24 months.


It is planned to begin with a strike by Israel on Iran. Either Iran or China will be provoked into a nuclear response. After a brief nuclear exchange, there will be a ceasefire. The world will be thrown into fear and chaos - all carefully engineered.


The extreme state of tension will be used to justify heavy social and military controls in all western first world nations. Plans are already in place for that.


During the nuclear ceasefire, there is planned to be a covert release of biological weapons. These will initially be targeted against the Chinese. As our 'source' chillingly told us, "China will catch a cold". Biological warfare will spread further, to the west. Infrastructure will be critically weakened.


This is intended to be just the beginning. After this, a full nuclear exchange would be triggered: the "real" war, with widespread destruction and loss of life. Our 'source' tells us that the planned population reduction through these combined means is 50%. He heard this figure stated in the meeting."

pearcider

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Possibly a little off the mark

I think the Chinese launched the virus themselves knowing that America’s weak link is their poor healthcare system and fragmented social structure especially in the cities. The US was too powerful to overcome militarily or economically. Trumps trade war was destroying them gradually and more Hong Kong type uprisings were on the cards. This was a very clever move by the Chinese communist party faced with their very survival. Qui Bono.

coolshannagh28

pearcider wrote: »

I think the Chinese launched the virus themselves knowing that America’s weak link is their poor healthcare system and fragmented social structure especially in the cities. The US was too powerful to overcome militarily or economically. Trumps trade war was destroying them gradually and more Hong Kong type uprisings were on the cards. This was a very clever move by the Chinese communist party faced with their very survival. Qui Bono.

There is logic to this but could the Chinese really be that dastardly ?

pearcider

coolshannagh28 wrote: »

There is logic to this but could the Chinese really be that dastardly ?

Absolutely. The goal of communism is a worldwide technocratic dictatorship along the lines of Orwell’s 1984.

Cheerful Spring2

ryansmith171 wrote: »

The coronavirus could wipe out the world

Hope you are not thinking this for real?

There is 110,000 cases, something like 4,000 deaths. Not an effective bio weapon if powers up are trying to reduce the world population. Flu already kills people with underlining health conditions. Coronavirus is just doing the same thing with a stronger bite.

Cheerful Spring2

The chan chan man wrote: »

I’m surprised this isn’t here already.. but do people actually believe this started with some clown eating a bat???

Eating all types of animals they get at the Chinese wet markets, it's possible. Animals get sick too.

Clarence Boddiker

pearcider wrote: »

Absolutely. The goal of communism is a worldwide technocratic dictatorship along the lines of Orwell’s 1984.

I think it resembles Huxley's Brave New World more than Orwell's 1984.
What we are seeing seems to be an amalgamation of Communism and Capitalism. Not so much a boot on the human face forever but people willingly accepting their servitude due to an endless supply of indulgence, consumer products, unlimited sexual freedom, Narcissism, technology etc

pearcider

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

I think it resembles Huxley's Brave New World more than Orwell's 1984.
What we are seeing seems to be an amalgamation of Communism and Capitalism. Not so much a boot on the human face forever but people willingly accepting their servitude due to an endless supply of indulgence, consumer products, unlimited sexual freedom, Narcissism, technology etc

That’s an optimistic view. I think the market based system that currently provides all these products and technologies has been eroded on many levels is incredibly vulnerable to collapse. It will by definition cease to exist entirely in a dystopia. All that will be left is the jackboot of government coercion.

Clarence Boddiker

pearcider wrote: »

That’s an optimistic view. I think the market based system that currently provides all these products and technologies has been eroded on many levels is incredibly vulnerable to collapse. It will by definition cease to exist entirely in a dystopia. All that will be left is the jackboot of government coercion.

Do you think? I think its stronger than ever and we're in the period of complete domination of global Capitalism. On the other hand a pandemic seems to be the one and only chink in the armour of Globalism and thats whats happening now.

If it did collapse then Govts would collapse with it and chaos would ensue. Unless the collapse was planned in order to usher in the totalitarian post collapse order (which is what many conspiracy theorists believe)

As an aside, whilst Orwell (as far as I'm aware) was a relatively ordinary individual theorising about future systems. Huxley was very much 'one of them' His brother Julian was a very interesting character, founder of UNESCO and proto Globalist and proponent of one world Govt.

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Who knew.

Donald has declared his uncle John G Trump to be a "great super genius",

This is how he 'understands' the coronavirus.

A charicature of himself at this stage, how does anyone beside him not crack up when he comes out with this stuff.

The guy on the right of the picture looks like he was on the brink of it but then remembered what has happened to countless generals, Mc Master, Kelly etc
and countless administration staff and cabinet members.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2125662/Video-Trump-brags-super-genius-uncle-MIT-professor.html

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pearcider wrote: »

I think the Chinese launched the virus themselves knowing that America’s weak link is their poor healthcare system and fragmented social structure especially in the cities. The US was too powerful to overcome militarily or economically. Trumps trade war was destroying them gradually and more Hong Kong type uprisings were on the cards. This was a very clever move by the Chinese communist party faced with their very survival. Qui Bono.

The Chinese didn't as they're more concerned about growing GDP.

Some folks think another state did it using ACE targetted receptors (Asians), but even that doesn't hold any water whatsoever, as a concept.

Likely an accidental release, if it wasn't then, its well beyond any single state.

A health podcast (will have to check which one) last week, had a guest that mentioned the Rockerfella's meeting of some decades ago.
Of which the topic, was how to chip more people (ideally via vaccines), in order to monitor more of the population (and also as a digital wallet, in a cashless future).

For which, everything strongly points directly to id2020.org.
Any guesses as to the main founding partners of this?

Clarence Boddiker

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

The Chinese didn't as they're more concerned about growing GDP.

Some folks think another state did it using ACE targetted receptors (Asians), but even that doesn't hold any water whatsoever, as a concept.

Likely an accidental release, if it wasn't then, its well beyond any single state.

A health podcast (will have to check which one) last week, had a guest that mentioned the Rockerfella's meeting of some decades ago.
Of which the topic, was how to chip more people (ideally via vaccines), in order to monitor more of the population (and also as a digital wallet, in a cashless future).

For which, everything strongly points directly to id2020.org.
Any guesses as to the main founding partners of this?

Surely not our old friend Mr Soros?

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Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Surely not our old friend Mr Soros?

No idea about this lad, two main sponsors of id2020.org are:

Rockerfella Foundation (or something to that effect) +
BillGates, the vaccine man (through MicroSoft)

An curious couple, no?

Dohnjoe

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

No idea about this lad, two main sponsors of id2020.org are:

Looks like a good project

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Dohnjoe wrote: »

Looks like a good project

Thought you might be in favour of chipping an extra 1.5bn before 2030.

Are those Rockerfellas not some 'fictional' bad guys?
Then you see their name/logo up on the main sponsor list (beside BillGates & Co).

'Persistant biometric ID from birth to death' does have a aul marketing ring about it,
- just needs a musical jingle.

Maybe they'll have an advert of someone waving their right arm over a starmucks staffless counter
- then getting their double frappachino in an automated debted instant, saving precious seconds!

Dohnjoe

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Thought you might be in favour of chipping an extra 1.5bn before 2030.

Are those Rockerfellas not some 'fictional' bad guys?
Then you see their name/logo up on the main sponsor list (beside BillGates & Co).

'Persistant biometric ID from birth to death' does have a aul marketing ring about it,
- just needs a musical jingle.

Maybe they'll have an advert of someone waving their right arm over a starmucks staffless counter
- then getting their double frappachino in an automated debted instant, saving precious seconds!

Sounds fine to me.

Clarence Boddiker

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Sounds fine to me.

coolshannagh28

pearcider wrote: »

That’s an optimistic view. I think the market based system that currently provides all these products and technologies has been eroded on many levels is incredibly vulnerable to collapse. It will by definition cease to exist entirely in a dystopia. All that will be left is the jackboot of government coercion.

The second amendment could yet prove useful.

pearcider

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Do you think? I think its stronger than ever and we're in the period of complete domination of global Capitalism. On the other hand a pandemic seems to be the one and only chink in the armour of Globalism and thats whats happening now.

If it did collapse then Govts would collapse with it and chaos would ensue. Unless the collapse was planned in order to usher in the totalitarian post collapse order (which is what many conspiracy theorists believe)

As an aside, whilst Orwell (as far as I'm aware) was a relatively ordinary individual theorising about future systems. Huxley was very much 'one of them' His brother Julian was a very interesting character, founder of UNESCO and proto Globalist and proponent of one world Govt.

Global capitalism is not capitalism at all. It’s crony capitalism at best and facism or national socialism at worst. The merger of state and corporate power is a succinct definition of facism. The state grows ever larger with ever more regulations, the corporations merge and grow ceaselessly and ruthlessly stamp out competition with the blessing of the state who erect barriers to competition in key industries. In other industries they simply buy out any competition with the aid of the banks.

With each financial crisis engineered by the party of Davos, the central banks buy more of everything with freshly printed money financed by the credit of the ordinary taxpayer. Look at Japan. The bank of Japan is the top stockholder on the Nikkei index. Soon the whole world will follow suit. Free market capitalism died out sometime in the 60s having been under sustained attack since the 19th century monopoly building of people like John Rockerfeller and JP Morgan and this system has been gradually replaced by an insidious state directed corporatism. Capitalism and the free market have been completely destroyed by central banking which rewards corporate malfeasance with bail outs. I think it’s interesting to note how much the WHO has doffed their cap to the CCP in this crisis. To me it seems manufactured in many ways.

Huxley was certainly an interesting character from a very interesting family. He was incredibly influential and his hand shows up in many conspiracies of history from pop music to the Manhattan project.