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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    If it is not planned then how Bill Gates can predict in 2018? See this https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10814760/bill-gates-predicted-coronavirus-simulation-33-million-die/
    "Bill Gates, warned a conference hosted by the Massachusetts Medical Society that a pandemic was likely soon" "The pretend disease broke out in China".

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10814760/bill-gates-predicted-coronavirus-simulation-33-million-die/

    Eerily accurate (simulation) also, for
    Month 1, 25k (China).
    Month 6: 32m, worldwide.

    His biggest interest, outside of charity, of his appears to be d2020.org


    Which assists (technology) in Digital IDs, including validating vaccine take up (One project of this, can tell with a quick (but unique) biometric scan if you've had the vaccine or not).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Bird flu? What are you even on about, there was no 'birdy flu' here lol.

    Swine flu was very minor, knew a couple of people that had it and brushed it off quick enough. This latest one is pretty nasty by all accounts.

    As regards nano chips, this has only very recently become available and even popular in some places (in sweden, in cashless shops, some folks biohack themselves with chips to speed up their shopping times).

    Only discovered : id2020. https://id2020.org/alliance - after a quick google, (of which BG's MSoft are founders), along with others, .e.g Rockerfolks.

    It's fairly vague, but does lean towards (enhanced), new, persistant and biometric IDs. They also partner with a vaccine program. It states clearly on their website they aim to ID 1.5bn people, in the developing world, but not until 2030, so no rush as such.
    Yes, people suggested similar conspiracy theories as this one when things like swine flu and bird flu were in the news.
    They also claimed that the previous outbreak was only minor and that the current one would be worse and result in chipping/martial law etc.

    I don't think your conspiracy theory will be any more accurate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,869 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Modern day hygiene and medication will hopefully also counter that spread compared to 1918 pandemic.

    Overcrowding in camps and hospitals, poor hygiene, malnourishment, lack of medicine and antibiotics all contributed to how devastating the Spanish flu was.

    A lot died from secondary bacterial infections which would not happen on the same level today.

    Don't forget that the biggest conflict in humanity's history (to date) had just taken place and there was mass movement of people . It was the absolute worst time for such a thing to strike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    not sure even if Bill still works for them

    Again, if you're "not sure" about such widely reported and easily verifiable information re: Mr Gates, perhaps formulating conspiracy theories about him isn't for you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭Titclamp


    People prefer to be fooled than be told that they've been fooled.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    5G has been proven to have significant impact on the human immuno systems.
    it has been proven to show the same "symptoms" in people as the flu does. sweating, fever, headaches, etc.
    it has been shown to alter RNA on some level, which in turn is said to lead to cancers and extremely ill health.

    they claim that 5G is within the safe "radio waves" level that 4g, 3g and 2g were within, however it is theorised that maybe that isnt the case, considering it can make people sick. it is theorised that 5G is actually within the MICROWAVE levels. meaning, the more you are exposed to it, the more you're being fried with all these symptoms.

    the fact is, you dont know that it doesnt do that. you dont know any truths, nor do i - but this is the CT forum, where it's encouraged to think outside the box and to literally talk about the alternative theories on topics.

    even if the theory SEEMS off the wall - the more off the wall something seems to somebody makes me believe that the person who believes it's a bizarre theory simply has a closed mind, and has been brainwashed into swallowing any oul sh!te from the media and are weak enough to feel social pressure to conform to the normal narratives in society.

    it's a bleak world when one cannot even speak of conspiracy theories on a conspiracy theories forum without somebody coming on and, not even trying to debunk the theory, but just trying to pooh-pooh it for no reason.

    if you dont believe my theory above, then why not tell me why - you could even use some of your media "facts" and links to prove me wrong if you like.

    Interesting twitter feed here, this guy has been ahead of the game with the corona virus from the beginning, touches on 5g also.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/LokiJulianus


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Another interesting thread from the 31st Jan on 4chan

    How did he know Italy was going to be hit?

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/241674007

    Quote
    "Remember, the most optimistic prediction at this point is 60,000 people are going to get killed in the next few months. It's highly infectious with an R6, probable chance of further mutations, infectious during the prodromal phase, and it's airborne. The only reason you're not already seeing thousands of people confirmed outside of China yet is because the incubation period but believe me the WHO is already talking about how "problematic" modeling the Chinese response in Western countries is going to be, and the first country they want to try it out in is Italy. If it begins a large outbreak in a major Italian city they want to work through the Italian authorities and world health organizations to begin locking down Italian cities in a vain attempt to slow down the spread at least until they can develop and distribute vaccines, which btw is where you need to start investing"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    The outbreak could have started anywhere in Europe in one of the main countries. Italy, France, Germany, UK, Spain. They all have massive touristic appeal and business connections to China. It's not a chance that these countries are now seeing the biggest increase in infected people in Europe after Italy. It's the dynamics of people moving around that makes one country more vulnerable than another one


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes, people suggested similar conspiracy theories ....
    They also claimed that the previous outbreak was only minor and that the current one would be worse and result in chipping/martial law etc.
    Some people, somewhere else, at some time in the past may well have done, ah who knows, not aware of these claims, as much as you appear to be.

    Digital persistant biometric IDs aren't planned for completion until 2030, so no great rush anyway for id2020.

    Not sure about your suggesiton for 'martial law etc', maybe you've been reading too many tabloid papers?
    e.g. that outline plans across the water for additional forces to be brought in when the cops there all get this flu.
    You may get a curfew or two, that's about it.
    Hoop66 wrote: »
    Again, if you're "not sure" about such widely reported and easily verifiable information re: Mr Gates, perhaps formulating conspiracy theories about him isn't for you?
    Maybe he's doing two jobs at the same time, while doing the 'Foundation' work. If you think he's the current CEO of MSoft, perhaps reality isn't for you. A board member or something perhaps, which is more of a passive role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Some people, somewhere else, at some time in the past may well have done, ah who knows, not aware of these claims, as much as you appear to be.

    Digital persistant biometric IDs aren't planned for completion until 2030, so no great rush anyway for id2020.

    Not sure about your suggesiton for 'martial law etc', maybe you've been reading too many tabloid papers?
    e.g. that outline plans across the water for additional forces to be brought in when the cops there all get this flu.
    You may get a curfew or two, that's about it.
    What leads you to the conclusion that I am suggesting that martial law will happen?
    I pretty explicitly say I don't believe that.

    I'm pointing out that conspiracy theorists have made similar claims to yours in previous outbreaks. They were all wrong. I suspect that you are wrong also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    What leads you to the conclusion that I am suggesting that martial law will happen?
    Why did you even bring such a subject up?
    A conspiracy of sorts, even giving credence to such an event.
    Can't say anyone else here has mentioned 'martial law' until right now. Very odd.
    If again you're trying to wedge in other specific conspiracy theories made by someone else, somewhere else, at some else time in the past, sure that's a conspiracy within itself.

    The papers ran a story yesterday on bringing in troops to replace ill cops, can't say that amounts to actual martial law you mentioned?
    King Mob wrote: »
    I'm pointing out that conspiracy theorists have made similar claims to yours in previous outbreaks. They were all wrong. I suspect that you are wrong also.

    I'm pointing out your repeated attempts pin other peoples theories (that am not aware of) made elsewhere, at another time, on other people.
    Then conclude absoloutely everything is wrong, lazy at best no?

    Only mentioned id2020.org as being a curiousity by itself.
    Came across it on the google search just this week (see below).

    It implies some sort of unique persistant biometric digital ID, never seen before.
    who knows for sure what it is, simply an oddity do you not think?
    Maybe it's fine, maybe not.

    7SgUrPO.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Another interesting thread from the 31st Jan on 4chan

    How did he know Italy was going to be hit?

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/241674007

    Quote
    "Remember, the most optimistic prediction at this point is 60,000 people are going to get killed in the next few months. It's highly infectious with an R6, probable chance of further mutations, infectious during the prodromal phase, and it's airborne. The only reason you're not already seeing thousands of people confirmed outside of China yet is because the incubation period but believe me the WHO is already talking about how "problematic" modeling the Chinese response in Western countries is going to be, and the first country they want to try it out in is Italy. If it begins a large outbreak in a major Italian city they want to work through the Italian authorities and world health organizations to begin locking down Italian cities in a vain attempt to slow down the spread at least until they can develop and distribute vaccines, which btw is where you need to start investing"

    How do you think he knew?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    King Mob wrote: »
    What leads you to the conclusion that I am suggesting that martial law will happen?
    I pretty explicitly say I don't believe that.

    I'm pointing out that conspiracy theorists have made similar claims to yours in previous outbreaks. They were all wrong. I suspect that you are wrong also.

    "So you're suggesting martial law will happen, very odd that, why are you so obsessed with martial law?"

    And so on and so forth ;)

    Back to Coronavirus, looks like Zuckerberg is feeling the pressure to crack down on the conspiracies
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51739846


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Why did you even bring such a subject up?
    A conspiracy of sorts, even giving credence to such an event.
    Can't say anyone else here has mentioned 'martial law' until right now. Very odd.
    If again you're trying to wedge in other specific conspiracy theories made by someone else, somewhere else, at some else time in the past, sure that's a conspiracy within itself.

    The papers ran a story yesterday on bringing in troops to replace ill cops, can't say that amounts to actual martial law you mentioned?



    I'm pointing out your repeated attempts pin other peoples theories (that am not aware of) made elsewhere, at another time, on other people.
    Then conclude absoloutely everything is wrong, lazy at best no?

    Only mentioned id2020.org as being a curiousity by itself.
    Came across it on the google search just this week (see below).

    It implies some sort of unique persistant biometric digital ID, never seen before.
    who knows for sure what it is, simply an oddity do you not think?
    Maybe it's fine, maybe not.

    7SgUrPO.png
    Again, I'm just pointing out the similarities between those conspiracy theories and the ones you are nebulously suggesting.
    They are similar in that they also sprang from outbreaks.
    Importantly, and this seems to be an issue you are having, I don't believe those conspiracy theories as they were wrong.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 ryansmith171


    The coronavirus could wipe out the world


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 ryansmith171


    Ireland are not prepared


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 ryansmith171


    simon harris is a joke


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    bot tastic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Ireland are not prepared
    The coronavirus could wipe out the world
    simon harris is a joke




    Just as well you signed up yesterday to tell us all this!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭moonlighting_1


    Guys there is a video going about where this was all predicted years ago. Also talk of nukes and WW3
    Listen to entire video
    Bio-weapon virus talk at 12 min mark

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracytheories/comments/ffal5r/all_of_your_questions_are_answered/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Guys there is a video going about where this was all predicted years ago. Also talk of nukes and WW3
    Listen to entire video
    Bio-weapon virus talk at 12 min mark

    Possibly a little off the mark
    Historians tell us that the "Anglo-Saxon Mission" refers to the spread of christianity in the 8th century. But over a thousand years later, there is now another, far more sinister meaning to the phrase.

    We recently received 11 pages of information from an insider who was physically present at a meeting of Senior Masons in the City of London in 2005. What was discussed is chilling to the bone.

    I (Bill) did an audio interview with our 'source', an Englishman whose identity we have verified with all details known and confirmed. This man, like many we have spoken with, is no longer able to live with his conscience or to keep this information secret.

    My original idea was to release a transcript of the interview, as we have done in the past. But the material it covers is so critical - and, for me, the missing pieces it provided were so important - that I've taken the step to present the information on video.



    The audio transcript with our 'source', who is not on the video, is available far below.

    What our 'source' reports is this:

    "There is a planned Third World War, which will be nuclear and biological. Our 'source' believes that this is on track to be initiated within the next 18-24 months.


    It is planned to begin with a strike by Israel on Iran. Either Iran or China will be provoked into a nuclear response. After a brief nuclear exchange, there will be a ceasefire. The world will be thrown into fear and chaos - all carefully engineered.


    The extreme state of tension will be used to justify heavy social and military controls in all western first world nations. Plans are already in place for that.


    During the nuclear ceasefire, there is planned to be a covert release of biological weapons. These will initially be targeted against the Chinese. As our 'source' chillingly told us, "China will catch a cold". Biological warfare will spread further, to the west. Infrastructure will be critically weakened.


    This is intended to be just the beginning. After this, a full nuclear exchange would be triggered: the "real" war, with widespread destruction and loss of life. Our 'source' tells us that the planned population reduction through these combined means is 50%. He heard this figure stated in the meeting."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Possibly a little off the mark

    I think the Chinese launched the virus themselves knowing that America’s weak link is their poor healthcare system and fragmented social structure especially in the cities. The US was too powerful to overcome militarily or economically. Trumps trade war was destroying them gradually and more Hong Kong type uprisings were on the cards. This was a very clever move by the Chinese communist party faced with their very survival. Qui Bono.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    pearcider wrote: »
    I think the Chinese launched the virus themselves knowing that America’s weak link is their poor healthcare system and fragmented social structure especially in the cities. The US was too powerful to overcome militarily or economically. Trumps trade war was destroying them gradually and more Hong Kong type uprisings were on the cards. This was a very clever move by the Chinese communist party faced with their very survival. Qui Bono.

    There is logic to this but could the Chinese really be that dastardly ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    There is logic to this but could the Chinese really be that dastardly ?

    Absolutely. The goal of communism is a worldwide technocratic dictatorship along the lines of Orwell’s 1984.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    The coronavirus could wipe out the world

    Hope you are not thinking this for real?

    There is 110,000 cases, something like 4,000 deaths. Not an effective bio weapon if powers up are trying to reduce the world population. Flu already kills people with underlining health conditions. Coronavirus is just doing the same thing with a stronger bite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    I’m surprised this isn’t here already.. but do people actually believe this started with some clown eating a bat???

    Eating all types of animals they get at the Chinese wet markets, it's possible. Animals get sick too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    pearcider wrote: »
    Absolutely. The goal of communism is a worldwide technocratic dictatorship along the lines of Orwell’s 1984.

    I think it resembles Huxley's Brave New World more than Orwell's 1984.
    What we are seeing seems to be an amalgamation of Communism and Capitalism. Not so much a boot on the human face forever but people willingly accepting their servitude due to an endless supply of indulgence, consumer products, unlimited sexual freedom, Narcissism, technology etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    I think it resembles Huxley's Brave New World more than Orwell's 1984.
    What we are seeing seems to be an amalgamation of Communism and Capitalism. Not so much a boot on the human face forever but people willingly accepting their servitude due to an endless supply of indulgence, consumer products, unlimited sexual freedom, Narcissism, technology etc

    That’s an optimistic view. I think the market based system that currently provides all these products and technologies has been eroded on many levels is incredibly vulnerable to collapse. It will by definition cease to exist entirely in a dystopia. All that will be left is the jackboot of government coercion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    pearcider wrote: »
    That’s an optimistic view. I think the market based system that currently provides all these products and technologies has been eroded on many levels is incredibly vulnerable to collapse. It will by definition cease to exist entirely in a dystopia. All that will be left is the jackboot of government coercion.

    Do you think? I think its stronger than ever and we're in the period of complete domination of global Capitalism. On the other hand a pandemic seems to be the one and only chink in the armour of Globalism and thats whats happening now.

    If it did collapse then Govts would collapse with it and chaos would ensue. Unless the collapse was planned in order to usher in the totalitarian post collapse order (which is what many conspiracy theorists believe)

    As an aside, whilst Orwell (as far as I'm aware) was a relatively ordinary individual theorising about future systems. Huxley was very much 'one of them' His brother Julian was a very interesting character, founder of UNESCO and proto Globalist and proponent of one world Govt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Who knew.

    Donald has declared his uncle John G Trump to be a "great super genius",

    This is how he 'understands' the coronavirus.

    A charicature of himself at this stage, how does anyone beside him not crack up when he comes out with this stuff.

    The guy on the right of the picture looks like he was on the brink of it but then remembered what has happened to countless generals, Mc Master, Kelly etc
    and countless administration staff and cabinet members.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2125662/Video-Trump-brags-super-genius-uncle-MIT-professor.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    pearcider wrote: »
    I think the Chinese launched the virus themselves knowing that America’s weak link is their poor healthcare system and fragmented social structure especially in the cities. The US was too powerful to overcome militarily or economically. Trumps trade war was destroying them gradually and more Hong Kong type uprisings were on the cards. This was a very clever move by the Chinese communist party faced with their very survival. Qui Bono.
    The Chinese didn't as they're more concerned about growing GDP.

    Some folks think another state did it using ACE targetted receptors (Asians), but even that doesn't hold any water whatsoever, as a concept.

    Likely an accidental release, if it wasn't then, its well beyond any single state.

    A health podcast (will have to check which one) last week, had a guest that mentioned the Rockerfella's meeting of some decades ago.
    Of which the topic, was how to chip more people (ideally via vaccines), in order to monitor more of the population (and also as a digital wallet, in a cashless future).

    For which, everything strongly points directly to id2020.org.
    Any guesses as to the main founding partners of this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    The Chinese didn't as they're more concerned about growing GDP.

    Some folks think another state did it using ACE targetted receptors (Asians), but even that doesn't hold any water whatsoever, as a concept.

    Likely an accidental release, if it wasn't then, its well beyond any single state.

    A health podcast (will have to check which one) last week, had a guest that mentioned the Rockerfella's meeting of some decades ago.
    Of which the topic, was how to chip more people (ideally via vaccines), in order to monitor more of the population (and also as a digital wallet, in a cashless future).

    For which, everything strongly points directly to id2020.org.
    Any guesses as to the main founding partners of this?

    Surely not our old friend Mr Soros?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Surely not our old friend Mr Soros?
    No idea about this lad, two main sponsors of id2020.org are:

    Rockerfella Foundation (or something to that effect) +
    BillGates, the vaccine man (through MicroSoft)

    An curious couple, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    No idea about this lad, two main sponsors of id2020.org are:

    Looks like a good project


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Looks like a good project
    Thought you might be in favour of chipping an extra 1.5bn before 2030.

    Are those Rockerfellas not some 'fictional' bad guys?
    Then you see their name/logo up on the main sponsor list (beside BillGates & Co).

    'Persistant biometric ID from birth to death' does have a aul marketing ring about it,
    - just needs a musical jingle.

    Maybe they'll have an advert of someone waving their right arm over a starmucks staffless counter
    - then getting their double frappachino in an automated debted instant, saving precious seconds!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Thought you might be in favour of chipping an extra 1.5bn before 2030.

    Are those Rockerfellas not some 'fictional' bad guys?
    Then you see their name/logo up on the main sponsor list (beside BillGates & Co).

    'Persistant biometric ID from birth to death' does have a aul marketing ring about it,
    - just needs a musical jingle.

    Maybe they'll have an advert of someone waving their right arm over a starmucks staffless counter
    - then getting their double frappachino in an automated debted instant, saving precious seconds!

    Sounds fine to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Sounds fine to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    pearcider wrote: »
    That’s an optimistic view. I think the market based system that currently provides all these products and technologies has been eroded on many levels is incredibly vulnerable to collapse. It will by definition cease to exist entirely in a dystopia. All that will be left is the jackboot of government coercion.

    The second amendment could yet prove useful.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    Do you think? I think its stronger than ever and we're in the period of complete domination of global Capitalism. On the other hand a pandemic seems to be the one and only chink in the armour of Globalism and thats whats happening now.

    If it did collapse then Govts would collapse with it and chaos would ensue. Unless the collapse was planned in order to usher in the totalitarian post collapse order (which is what many conspiracy theorists believe)

    As an aside, whilst Orwell (as far as I'm aware) was a relatively ordinary individual theorising about future systems. Huxley was very much 'one of them' His brother Julian was a very interesting character, founder of UNESCO and proto Globalist and proponent of one world Govt.

    Global capitalism is not capitalism at all. It’s crony capitalism at best and facism or national socialism at worst. The merger of state and corporate power is a succinct definition of facism. The state grows ever larger with ever more regulations, the corporations merge and grow ceaselessly and ruthlessly stamp out competition with the blessing of the state who erect barriers to competition in key industries. In other industries they simply buy out any competition with the aid of the banks.

    With each financial crisis engineered by the party of Davos, the central banks buy more of everything with freshly printed money financed by the credit of the ordinary taxpayer. Look at Japan. The bank of Japan is the top stockholder on the Nikkei index. Soon the whole world will follow suit. Free market capitalism died out sometime in the 60s having been under sustained attack since the 19th century monopoly building of people like John Rockerfeller and JP Morgan and this system has been gradually replaced by an insidious state directed corporatism. Capitalism and the free market have been completely destroyed by central banking which rewards corporate malfeasance with bail outs. I think it’s interesting to note how much the WHO has doffed their cap to the CCP in this crisis. To me it seems manufactured in many ways.

    Huxley was certainly an interesting character from a very interesting family. He was incredibly influential and his hand shows up in many conspiracies of history from pop music to the Manhattan project.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    pearcider wrote: »
    Global capitalism is not capitalism at all. It’s crony capitalism at best and facism or national socialism at worst. The merger of state and corporate power is a succinct definition of facism. The state grows ever larger with ever more regulations, the corporations merge and grow ceaselessly and ruthlessly stamp out competition with the blessing of the state who erect barriers to competition in key industries. In other industries they simply buy out any competition with the aid of the banks.

    With each financial crisis engineered by the party of Davos, the central banks buy more of everything with freshly printed money financed by the credit of the ordinary taxpayer. Look at Japan. The bank of Japan is the top stockholder on the Nikkei index. Soon the whole world will follow suit. Free market capitalism died out sometime in the 60s having been under sustained attack since the 19th century monopoly building of people like John Rockerfeller and JP Morgan and this system has been gradually replaced by an insidious state directed corporatism. Capitalism and the free market have been completely destroyed by central banking which rewards corporate malfeasance with bail outs. I think it’s interesting to note how much the WHO has doffed their cap to the CCP in this crisis. To me it seems manufactured in many ways.

    Huxley was certainly an interesting character from a very interesting family. He was incredibly influential and his hand shows up in many conspiracies of history from pop music to the Manhattan project.

    What does this particular world view have to do with Corona virus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    What does this particular world view have to do with Corona virus?

    I think it’s fairly obvious from the thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    pearcider wrote: »
    Global capitalism is not capitalism at all. It’s crony capitalism at best and facism or national socialism at worst. The merger of state and corporate power is a succinct definition of facism.

    This seems to have been largely forgotten. I agree with you, this is exactly where we are now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    pearcider wrote: »
    I think it’s fairly obvious from the thread.

    Which is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Lol, this is fiunny.

    I've learned in the last day or two, the KingMob only replies to a single question with at least 5 or 7 of his own, a default trivial pointless exercise in time wasting, that is best ignored (and will be).

    Welcome to my world ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Welcome to my world ;)

    In fairness you're a holocaust denier who believes in all sorts of zany theories. People who believe in irrational made-up stuff don't like being rationally questioned about it.

    Agitators and contrarians are just along for the ride.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    In fairness you're a holocaust denier who believes in all sorts of zany theories. People who believe in irrational made-up stuff don't like being rationally questioned about it.

    Agitators and contrarians are just along for the ride.

    I debate real events in history.
    My three primary interests of discussion on this forum is JFK, UFOS, and 9/11 

    Do i believe a holocust happened ( yes)
    Do i believe Jews were killed during the war ( yes)
    Do i believe Jews were gassed ( yes) there evidence for it 
    Do i believe the numbers of Jewish deaths is correct ( no)

    If i am holocust denier for saying this fine.  I will take the tag. Do you feel better now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    I look forward to the inevitable word salad buffet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    In fairness ....
    In fairness you want everyone chipped at birth, by a combination nightmare of the Rockerfellas' meets BillyGates after a long night on the whisky.

    It's hard to seperate stamping someones arm with numbers and giving them a free gold star for identification. ...To injectiing them with persistant nano-technology DigitalID, that will control their future Orwellian ability to spend digital money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    In fairness you want everyone chipped at birth, by a combination nightmare of the Rockerfellas' meets BillyGates after a long night on the whisky.

    It's hard to seperate stamping someones arm with numbers and giving them a free gold star for identification. ...To injectiing them with persistant nano-technology DigitalID, that will control their future Orwellian ability to spend digital money.

    In your mind, that's what ID2020 is? Interesting


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