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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Whadya know - MaryLou is affected by the Scoil Chaitríona closure. Will that put a close to the rallies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Unearthly wrote: »
    At the WHO conference today they said the fatality rate is 3.4% which is very high

    I can't take much more of this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7



    Fatality rate running at ~3.16% in a developed country like Italy is very high. Hopefully this drops off asap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Unearthly wrote: »
    At the WHO conference today they said the fatality rate is 3.4% which is very high

    People were being attacked in this thread for saying it was not just a flu and there you go WHO 3.4%.

    IF everyone in the country got infected that would be 170'000 dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    3.1% death rate in Italy so far from those numbers.

    https://www.sozialministerium.at/Informationen-zum-Coronavirus/Neuartiges-Coronavirus-(2019-nCov).html

    Austria now have 24 total cases.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Whadya know - MaryLou is affected by the Scoil Chaitríona closure. Will that put a close to the rallies?

    In her video about it yesterday she specifically said they were being postponed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

    We are 509 beds short in Irish hospitals today.

    :-(

    This is why it's hard to believe the 'we are prepared' spiel from the HSE when it's overstretched as is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,578 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    blanch152 wrote: »
    In what court of law can South Korea sue?

    Rest of post is bile.


    Gutter oil, not Bile


    It's fact, you only need to look it up on youtube. Hardly a secret those practices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Italy has affected many countries around Europe.
    Only done about 8000-9000 tests.

    Way more than 2400 have it in Italy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    People were being attacked in this thread for saying it was not just a flu and there you go WHO 3.4%.

    IF everyone in the country got infected that would be 170'000 dead.

    Or if you go by Dr John Campbell (30% in the first year) that would be about 51,000?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Whadya know - MaryLou is affected by the Scoil Chaitríona closure. Will that put a close to the rallies?

    Hello there, welcome to monday afternoon :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Nearly a month since the quarantine began on board of The Diamond Princess and they still have 600 active cases listed on worldometers figures.

    Is it that the recovery time/time to death is very slow or is it testing that's causing a delay or are there still 600 people showing positive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,473 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    surprised the released the info about the band. https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0303/1119921-coronavirus/ oj just catching up with why, can't find letter though

    was there something about the HSE/Harris not releasing new case numbers till Tuesday?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Or if you go by Dr John Campbell (30% in the first year) that would be about 51,000?

    That retired nurse on flutube no thanks I am sticking to the WHO numbers.:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Hats off to Erdogens regime for keeping Turkey virus-clean, and enforcing no negative journalism on the countrys Coronavirus stance (and well, anything negative about Turkey, period). And scooting off hundreds of thousands of migrants to other countries in the meantime. And claiming their virus test kits are faster than anywhere else in the world.

    Amazing country guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog



    Italian politicians aren't competent enough to a China on their figures.

    They changed the rationale to make it seem less worse and more palatable.

    Even then the figures continue to increase. If they hadn't changed the rationale it would look even more considerably worse today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    France are no longer testing asymptomatic contacts of known infected people, is why the number is down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,431 ✭✭✭circadian


    Gutter oil, not Bile


    It's fact, you only need to look it up on youtube. Hardly a secret those practices.

    Alex Jones was deplatformed ages ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    Nearly a month since the quarantine began on board of The Diamond Princess and they still have 600 active cases listed on worldometers figures.

    Is it that the recovery time/time to death is very slow or is it testing that's causing a delay or are there still 600 people showing positive?

    Some of them only tested positive when they were leaving the boat after the two weeks quarantine. Search for David Abel on YouTube. He's a Brit in a Japanese hospital still testing positive. His videos are good


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Italian politicians aren't competent enough to a China on their figures.

    They changed the rationale to make it seem less worse and more palatable.

    Even then the figures continue to increase. If they hadn't changed the rationale it would look even more considerably worse today.

    They gave themselves about a day's grace from it too. The juked numbers are gonna look terrible very, very soon.

    I saw you post earlier that Iran had only conducted about 5,000 tests. Where did you get that number?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/health/coronavirus-washington-spread.html

    "Researchers who have examined the genomes of two coronavirus infections in Washington State say the similarities between the cases suggest that the virus may have been spreading in the state for weeks."

    I Really wonder how much use a vaccination will be if it is mutating ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    wakka12 wrote: »
    France are no longer testing asymptomatic contacts of known infected people, is why the number is down

    Nah nah not having that the numbers are down right.


    Here is a report on the progress in France.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    How many cases do we have in Ireland now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,473 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Why is it spreading so quick in Italy? Does anyone any theory for this ?
    read this guardian article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/26/coronavirus-inquiry-opens-into-hospitals-at-centre-of-italy-outbreak 1 guy was sick a couple of weeks back and went to 4 different medical facilities and each time they asked him if he had been to China he said no, until the 4th one when his wife remembered he was in contact with somebody who was in China. He infected atleast 13 people during that time including medical staff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    How many cases do we have in Ireland now?

    1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,803 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    wakka12 wrote: »
    France are no longer testing asymptomatic contacts of known infected people, is why the number is down

    Isn't that effectively giving up on 'containment'?


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People were being attacked in this thread for saying it was not just a flu and there you go WHO 3.4%.

    IF everyone in the country got infected that would be 170'000 dead.

    Any link to the WHO saying this? I suspect it's misinterpretation of the figures....e.g...

    If 100 people get it per day
    after 1 week, 700 have contracted it
    lets say 96 people are cleared
    and 4 die

    So, out of the 100 cases that are finished (with 600 still ongoing), you've 96 in the clear and 4 fatalities, so the mortality rate is 4%.

    In reality, 4 out of 700 have died, which is 0.58%. It may well be the case that once you survive the 1st couple of days, you're fine....but you still technically have the disease. Now, more could very well die, but the % depends on which figure you use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭dublin99


    The following email has been widely circulated:

    The author of this coronavirus precautionary measures is James Robb, MD UC San Diego. It’s a really great read.

    Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic

    Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.

    The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.

    Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

    1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.

    2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.

    3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.

    4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.

    5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.

    6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.

    7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

    What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

    1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.

    Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.

    2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

    3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

    4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.

    I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.

    I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us! Jim

    James Robb, MD FCAP

    Of his recommendations, I particularly agree with the fact that wearing a mask may not stop you from getting the virus, but it does stop you from (often unconsciously) touching your nose or mouth which is very important. It is worth noting that in a small city like Macau, the compulsory use of masks (provided by Government at cost) meant that there has not been new cases diagnosed for last 3 weeks, despite proximity to China.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,999 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Nearly a month since the quarantine began on board of The Diamond Princess and they still have 600 active cases listed on worldometers figures.

    Is it that the recovery time/time to death is very slow or is it testing that's causing a delay or are there still 600 people showing positive?

    I would think it's a case of them not clearing any of the 600 via tests because they are prioritsing testing suspected cases. Hopefully bu now, some of those 600 might be recovered, but just not confirmed as such. The number of cases did climb by 2 recently as my version of the page had 598 cases until I refreshed it.


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