Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

quokula

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

A worrying barchart when you superimpose what happened in China a month ago on top of what is happening in the rest of the world right now.

The y axis on the left shows the actual numbers to date.

I am unsure what the y axis on the right is... worst case scenario perhaps?

https://e-markets.nordea.com/#!/article/56073/fx-weekly-a-preppers-guide-to-trading-corona

That's pretty much the opposite of worrying. It suggests that if the trend in China is matched, it will peak at about 1500 cases in a day (which is absolutely miniscule on an international scale)

It won't really follow china as different countries will have individual peaks at different times so it will probably grow for a good bit longer, but we may see Italy and Korea hit their peaks soon.

SafeSurfer

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Would it not have been better to keep the kid in hospital for a fortnight, even if he isn't seriously ill? Even if it isn't recommended practice. he's only one case (so far fingers crossed etc.)

I thought he was in hospital going by news reports.

igCorcaigh

The 12 new cases in England are all imported.

ThePopehimself

Snow Garden wrote: »

Yes.

Why the toilet roll?

Novel Scutters-Type 2 outbreak? :eek:

Snow Garden

KingBobby wrote: »

I'm not a fan of Mary Lou, but for god sake she's also a mother. Her kids are probably fearful, I know mine would be. Maybe she wants to be with her kids when they get tested?

A tangent I know but I often work with children and I had quite a few discussions in the past about their fears in life. Most would be under 14.
I remember one particular period when they were absolutely in fear of their lives about.....ISIS. I think the Ariana Grande concert
tipped them over. I would say the chances of being attacked by ISIS in Ireland were tiny but they would try and convince me otherwise.
I hope teachers and parents are sending the right messages to the children. They have enough anxiety as it is.

Drumpot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1pbYEVQG7g

Somebody else posted this a few pages back, actually a really good Q&A where some relevant questions for all of us will be helpful. The Doctors speaking are dispeling some myths and prob answers some questions (like whats the difference between Flu v Corona Symptoms) that might be on your mind. Some good questions being asked to be fair.

cnocbui

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Sugar, I dont have a tv licence either

They didn't ask about that.

Snow Garden

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Novel Scutters-Type 2 outbreak? :eek:

A mutated mutation? :eek:

Hector Savage

igCorcaigh wrote: »

The 12 new cases in England are all imported.

North Italy?

the butcher

Worth noting:

Fed cuts rates by half a percentage point to combat coronavirus slowdown.

Last time this happened was in 2008 following the Lehman Brothers collapse.

the butcher

https://twitter.com/MENnewsdesk/status/1234869473301102592

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/three-more-coronavirus-cases-confirmed-17855560

igCorcaigh

Hector Savage wrote: »

North Italy?

Eight patients had recently travelled from Italy, one from Germany, one from Singapore, one from Japan and one from Iran.

ThePopehimself

:eek::eek::eek:

Snow Garden wrote: »

A mutated mutation? :eek:

Rob A. Bank

quokula wrote: »

That's pretty much the opposite of worrying. It suggests that if the trend in China is matched, it will peak at about 1500 cases in a day (which is absolutely miniscule on an international scale)

It won't really follow china as different countries will have individual peaks at different times so it will probably grow for a good bit longer, but we may see Italy and Korea hit their peaks soon.

Trouble is the peak of the Chinese barchart has been blunted by extreme draconian measures.

Individual peaks in different countries at different times will result in a ping pong like effect of imported infections. like what is happening at the moment with China importing infection from Italy.

The health systems in most countries will not be able to cope with a very big surge of patients, which is the main problem. Unless of course we can flatten the curve.

Loafing Oaf

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Eight patients had recently travelled from Italy, one from Germany, one from Singapore, one from Japan and one from Iran.

I was saying yesterday it's miraculous they haven't had a significant cluster yet with all the new sources of infection coming in all the time. Surely they must be asking questions about the wisdom of this unrestricted travel policy?

blanch152

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Right hand axis for China, left for Row?

Yes, which makes the chart completely disingenuous, as the China rates were running at at least twice the rate in the rest of the world is running now.

Graces7

Naggdefy wrote: »

Maybe this thread should follow the course of some weather event threads. A reasonably technical, factual one and one for general discussion.

All the sizeable minority who love being smart a*ses and want to crack one liners can be quarantined in general discussion. A lot of what you read through are comments 13 year olds make when trying to be cool but are really lacking in confidence at the back of it.

That was abandoned two storms ago because of the rows that erupted in the "smart a" thread.. :eek:

But smart a comments are not allowed either so win win.

fr336

quokula wrote: »

we may see Italy and Korea hit their peaks soon.

I know I sound very stupid here, but how would we be seeing peaks hit so soon? Is it because certain containments have been successful and those cases picked up have either been dealt with and no longer carry the virus or, sadly, die? But surely the virus will keep being out there for a long time and it only takes one person picking it up abroad to start the whole ball rolling again? Anyone who isn't as clueless as me is most welcome to reply!

the butcher

https://twitter.com/CatherineField/status/1234873480241405953

owlbethere

How did Covid-19 start in Italy? Did someone in Italy travel to Wuhan/China and brought it back with them or was it someone from China visiting Italy?

Did the experts in the UK not day today that the peak will be 2-3 months after the first H2H transmission?

Is Italy 3 weeks in yet?

Graces7

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought the guiding theory was that it was the viral infection that lead to increased levels of narcolepsy or at least it was inconclusive.

No it was the vaccine; and courts have awarded compensation on those grounds,

tuxy

owlbethere wrote: »

How did Covid-19 start in Italy? Did someone in Italy travel to Wuhan/China and brought it back with them or was it someone from China visiting Italy?

I believe everything happened so fast in Italy that they can not trace it back to the first person in that country.

owlbethere

owlbethere wrote: »

How did Covid-19 start in Italy? Did someone in Italy travel to Wuhan/China and brought it back with them or was it someone from China visiting Italy?

Think it was an elderly couple visiting from Wuhan.

DrumSteve

Graces7 wrote: »

No it was the vaccine; and courts have awarded compensation on those grounds,

I'd take a spot of narcolepsy over dying of swine flu.

josip

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Think it was an elderly couple visiting from Wuhan.

The elderly couple from Wuhan are responsible for one of the strains.
But the origin of the second strain is unknown.

Bob24

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

A worrying barchart when you superimpose what happened in China a month ago on top of what is happening in the rest of the world right now.

https://e-markets.nordea.com/#!/article/56073/fx-weekly-a-preppers-guide-to-trading-corona

quokula wrote: »

That's pretty much the opposite of worrying. It suggests that if the trend in China is matched, it will peak at about 1500 cases in a day (which is absolutely miniscule on an international scale)

Anyone looking at this has to keep in mind that Chinese figures are achieved by locking down entire cities and stopping the economy.

So anyone using this chart to say “we’ll go through the same pattern as China and be grand” should keep in mind they are assuming we are heading for lockdown.

blanch152

Graces7 wrote: »

No it was the vaccine; and courts have awarded compensation on those grounds,

Eh no, that is a lie.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/20/swine-flu-vaccine-case-settled-but-hopes-for-legal-precedent-dashed

"the state admitted no liability, which will come as a blow to dozens of other people with narcolepsy considering similar cases and hoping for a legal precedent."

Don't be giving false hopes to people who think they caught narcolepsy.

Graces7

DrumSteve wrote: »

I'd take a spot of narcolepsy over dying of swine flu.

Indeed.... although sadly narcolepsy makes a normal life all but impossible. So a lose lose situation. It becomes a serious disability.

owlbethere

josip wrote: »

The elderly couple from Wuhan are responsible for one of the strains.
But the origin of the second strain is unknown.

There's a second strain of this Covid-19?