Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

gabeeg

fr336 wrote: »

I know I sound very stupid here, but how would we be seeing peaks hit so soon? Is it because certain containments have been successful and those cases picked up have either been dealt with and no longer carry the virus or, sadly, die? But surely the virus will keep being out there for a long time and it only takes one person picking it up abroad to start the whole ball rolling again? Anyone who isn't as clueless as me is most welcome to reply!

We're seeing no evidence that either Italy or South Korea are anywhere close to containing the virus, and no sign of a peak.

And because of the exponential nature of this virus's growth, if they don't get a handle on it fairly soon it can go much, much higher than China's # of cases and very quickly.

Call Me Jimmy

Dr Mike WHO "New cases of Covid 19 are stretching the system (in Italy)"

Already.

Lines up with an unconfirmed report I saw earlier of a 'pop up' hospital at a former military hospital in milan.

josip

owlbethere wrote: »

There's a second strain of this Covid-19?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-may-have-been-in-italy-for-weeks-before-it-was-detected

Rob A. Bank

owlbethere wrote: »

How did Covid-19 start in Italy? Did someone in Italy travel to Wuhan/China and brought it back with them or was it someone from China visiting Italy?

Tracking the index case (case zero) is very difficult everywhere... I am not sure if the Italians have succeeded with Covid-19 there.

One of the places where they seem to have succeeded in finding case zero is the Ebola epidemic in west Africa in 2013/14 which infected 28,616 people causing 11,310 deaths. The Ebola victim who is believed to have triggered the outbreak - a two-year-old boy called Emile Ouamouno from Guinea - may have been infected by playing in a hollow tree housing a colony of bats, say scientists.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-30632453

Talisman

Snow Garden wrote: »

A tangent I know but I often work with children and I had quite a few discussions in the past about their fears in life. Most would be under 14.
I remember one particular period when they were absolutely in fear of their lives about.....ISIS. I think the Ariana Grande concert
tipped them over. I would say the chances of being attacked by ISIS in Ireland were tiny but they would try and convince me otherwise.
I hope teachers and parents are sending the right messages to the children. They have enough anxiety as it is.

Our younger kids (11 & 8) got "the chat" from the teacher today. A couple of my eldest daughter's friends are students at Scoil Chaitriona and my son (8) is aware that they're off school. From talking to him, the consensus in his class is that they are only interested in when they are getting two weeks off school. He also has a mad idea about needing to buy Easter Eggs before it's too late.

igCorcaigh

fr336 wrote: »

I know I sound very stupid here, but how would we be seeing peaks hit so soon? Is it because certain containments have been successful and those cases picked up have either been dealt with and no longer carry the virus or, sadly, die? But surely the virus will keep being out there for a long time and it only takes one person picking it up abroad to start the whole ball rolling again? Anyone who isn't as clueless as me is most welcome to reply!

I don't know, but the cases in China have peaked only because of the intense measures taken. Can't see that happening elsewhere.

Away With The Fairies

America and Europe has strict rules and guidelines when making and selling food, how the **** does China not have rules and regulations and were selling wild animals at a market which started all this. Wonder will they get their act together and stop having wild animals at their markets. They're responsible for 1000s of deaths worldwide.

Call Me Jimmy

Dr Tedros WHO "Why would you wave a white flag when you have a few cases that you can contain, it's completely irrational"

"(Latin American Countries) should do aggressive containment while the numbers are low"

SusanC10

Talisman wrote: »

He also has a mad idea about needing to buy Easter Eggs before it's too late.

Both of our Kids were at this in Tesco last week ! Also, they want a chocolate stockpile.

MOR316

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

America and Europe has strict rules and guidelines when making and selling food, how the **** does China not have rules and regulations and were selling wild animals at a market which started all this. Wonder will they get their act together and stop having wild animals at their markets. They're responsible for 1000s of deaths worldwide.

Yes, animals...

* Insert Conspiracy music *

ceadaoin.

DrumSteve wrote: »

I'd take a spot of narcolepsy over dying of swine flu.

A "spot" of narcolepsy? Its a lifelong debilitating illness , but ok.

SafeSurfer

DrumSteve wrote: »

I'd take a spot of narcolepsy over dying of swine flu.

It’s a very strange side effect Tamiflu that it makes you have sex with dead people.

Martina1991

Loafing Oaf wrote:

Would it not have been better to keep the kid in hospital for a fortnight, even if he isn't seriously ill? Even if it isn't recommended practice. he's only one case (so far fingers crossed etc.)

He is in hospital.

frillyleaf

Strazdas wrote: »

Though the reason the Spanish flu wiped out millions in 1918 is because they were malnourished, living in poverty, in hopelessly overcrowded conditions and personal hygiene was non-existent. It's a completely different world now.

For our country, not for developing countries

MrMusician18

SafeSurfer wrote: »

It’s a very strange side effect Tamiflu that it makes you have sex with dead people.

You'd want to be sure you're right before you crack a **** joke.

Necro not narco relates to death.

Loafing Oaf

Martina1991 wrote: »

He is in hospital.

Oh right. So the band practice thing must have happened before he was confirmed positive...

SafeSurfer

MrMusician18 wrote: »

You'd want to be sure you're right before you crack a **** joke.

Necro not narco relates to death.

How do you know so much about having sex with dead people? ;-)

wakka12

https://m.hln.be/nieuws/binnenland/expert-volksgezondheid-tempert-paniek-worstcasescenario-vergelijkbaar-met-zware-seizoensgriep~a94d020a/
Belgian government expects 13000 cases of coronavirus in 'worst case scenario'. Seems rather optimistic no?
Belgium is almost 12 million people in a highly dense urbanised small country with no borders to other countries, I dont see how they could possibly be sure of such a low infection rate

Tonight The DOH/HSE will be releasing the numbers for those tested in the week Tue 25 Feb - Mon 2 Mar. These are the running totals so far if we want to keep a track. Dunno if someone wants to make a pretty table.


Info released 11th Feb - 65 tested 0 confirmed for period start (?) up to Mon 10th Feb
Info released 19th Feb - 78 tested 0 confirmed - 13 new tests in week Tue 11th to Mon 18th Feb
Info released 25th Feb 90 tested 0 confirmed - 12 new tests in week Tue 19th - Mon 24th Feb

Fia11

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Oh right. So the band practice thing must have happened before he was confirmed positive...

Ah lads surely you're not thinking our one coronavirus case was discharged home and decided to go out and play the trombone.

All reports point to the teenager remaining in hospital, as we (apparently) have the capacity, but doing really well. Great to hear, must be a very scary time. Hope their family are ok.

Props to all the healthcare workers taking care of them.

Duke of Url

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Tonight The DOH/HSE will be releasing the numbers for those tested in the week Tue 25 Feb - Mon 2 Mar. These are the running totals so far if we want to keep a track. Dunno if someone wants to make a pretty table.


11th Feb 65 tested 0 confirmed
19th Feb 78 tested 0 confirmed
25th Feb 90 tested 0 confirmed

Can you add total tested as you are making them look more productive then they are.

Rob A. Bank

Health warning*

The daily number of people infected in an epidemic generally follows a bell shaped curve so it can be mathematically modeled, based on previous experience of epidemics.



Above are some hypothetical mathematical models of the COV-19 epidemic in China showing the optimistic and pessimistic scenarios, also the actual daily cases up to the middle of February.

The importance of ‘flattening the curve’ or ‘delaying the peak’ is well illustrated… because you save an enormous number of infection and cases later.

*Prediction is a very accurate science, just as long as it has absolutely nothing to do with the future*

eeepaulo

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Tonight The DOH/HSE will be releasing the numbers for those tested in the week Tue 25 Feb - Mon 2 Mar. These are the running totals so far if we want to keep a track. Dunno if someone wants to make a pretty table.


11th Feb 65 tested 0 confirmed
19th Feb 78 tested 0 confirmed
25th Feb 90 tested 0 confirmed

igCorcaigh

Hmm, so the WHO are now saying that asymptomatic cases are actually very rare, 0.25pc based on figures from China, which they have confidence in.

Fia11

VERY pretty table.

BorneTobyWilde

Why does it feel like panic over? Everything now under control, Chinese cases dropping hugely daily and nothing else worth reporting.

josip

Fia11 wrote: »

Ah lads surely you're not thinking our one coronavirus case was discharged home and decided to go out and play the trombone.

All reports point to the teenager remaining in hospital, as we (apparently) have the capacity, but doing really well. Great to hear, must be a very scary time. Hope their family are ok.

Props to all the healthcare workers taking care of them.

Good to hear that he's doing well.
I doubt if he was discharged home by the HSE and in the absence of any hard facts all we can do is speculate.
The only possible scenario I can see, is that he was still at home waiting for the results of the tests on the Saturday.
Perhaps he felt 'fine' and his parents thought it ok for him to go to band practice.
Sometime after that, either during or after practice, the positive result was confirmed and he was admitted to hospital to be monitored.
100% speculation on my part.

Fr_Dougal

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Tonight The DOH/HSE will be releasing the numbers for those tested in the week Tue 25 Feb - Mon 2 Mar. These are the running totals so far if we want to keep a track. Dunno if someone wants to make a pretty table.


11th Feb 65 tested 0 confirmed
19th Feb 78 tested 0 confirmed
25th Feb 90 tested 0 confirmed

Fewer tests, fewer cases. Makes sense.

BorneTobyWilde

South Korea sues China for 5.5 billion over coronavirus will be the next turn of events I bet. Are China, and their inhuman practices to blame, surely they are. If their not boiling a dog alive it's a cat, if there not eating a rat it's a bat, all boiled in grease they siphon out of raw human sewage pipes. It's hardly any wonder all these viruses start in China. Surely they have a lot to answer for.

Duke of Url

Duke of Url wrote: »

Can you add total tested as you are making them look more productive then they are.

Check it now. I can’t do tables though on phone but think that’s all the info.