[Cancelled] Electric Picnic 2020 Discussion Only // No Ticket Sales / Requests

Seathrun66 · 25-02-2020 12:30PM

PabloAndRoy wrote: »

How about we just don't compare a medium sized festival trying to find its feet with a well established large festival heading towards mega comercialisation.

Hard not to when many posters go to both and they're after broadly the same acts.

But I think the general feeling here is that we want both to do well and we enjoy having the choice. And were a festival like that on my own doorstep Pablo I'd be more than delighted.

alastair · 25-02-2020 12:31PM

Shout out to those of us smugly going to both!

I still reckon Pet Shop Boys could be a later ATN addition btw.

rubick · 25-02-2020 12:35PM

Disclosure have new material coming out, worryingly.

PabloAndRoy · 25-02-2020 12:56PM

alastair wrote: »

Shout out to those of us smugly going to both!

I still reckon Pet Shop Boys could be a later ATN addition btw.

Am going to both .. also hoping to get to B&S (mainly cos Marc Rebillet is playing). Have tickets for vantastival also. Hopefully will get to all 4 this year, starting small and growing over the summer.

sally cinnamon89 · 25-02-2020 01:06PM

I've been to 5 EP's 2013-2017. I've been going to Another Love Story, B&S and ATN since. I would love to return but I just stopped enjoying the festival as the years went on and my group of friends stopped going too.

I hope nothing but good things for all fests - If they could make it freeflow I'd be there in a second.

Stillill42 · 25-02-2020 01:32PM

PabloAndRoy wrote: »

So, if I understand it correctly....

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    EP > ATN
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    ATN > EP
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Ah lads, leave off. It was a Mogwai related comment. Only EP from now on, I get it.

scruff monkey · 25-02-2020 01:38PM

Given the way the news is going, could we have a special guest in the form of the Wu-flu gang (the corona-viruses new album)?

The tour seems to be getting new countries added daily

Might be worth checking if any bookies have odds on festivals being cancelled.

endainoz · 25-02-2020 01:58PM

scruff monkey wrote: »

Given the way the news is going, could we have a special guest in the form of the Wu-flu gang (the corona-viruses new album)?

The tour seems to be getting new countries added daily

Might be worth checking if any bookies have odds on festivals being cancelled.

Big events drawing an international audience like the Olympics or the euros could be included on that conversation too. I'd say we'd be ok though, given that most of the clientele would be domestic.

Just the four festivals for myself this year two of which are in June and Green Day in the RDS which is also in June. Might as well give up working for that month.

Poorside · 25-02-2020 02:00PM

A hectic summer for me had just got a bit busier, Ian Brown playing in Limerick but Touts supporting pushed me over the line.

scruff monkey · 25-02-2020 02:04PM

endainoz wrote: »

I'd say we'd be ok though, given that most of the clientele would be domestic.

EP security are not, the acts and their crew/gear are not, Pink Moon and other providers are not, and we will have cases found here in the next few weeks given how connected we are.

PabloAndRoy · 25-02-2020 02:04PM

Stillill42 wrote: »

Ah lads, leave off. It was a Mogwai related comment. Only EP from now on, I get it.

Wasn't having a pop at you at all. Just commenting on the apples and oranges nature of the discussion and the considerable loyalty many have for EP.

endainoz · 25-02-2020 02:09PM

scruff monkey wrote: »

EP security are not, the acts and their crew/gear are not, Pink Moon and other providers are not, and we will have cases found here in the next few weeks given how connected we are.

Good point, it's inevitable we will have cases here soon. Let's hope we have the aul vaccine by EP time eh?

kg703 · 25-02-2020 02:57PM

endainoz wrote: »

Big events drawing an international audience like the Olympics or the euros could be included on that conversation too. I'd say we'd be ok though, given that most of the clientele would be domestic.

Just the four festivals for myself this year two of which are in June and Green Day in the RDS which is also in June. Might as well give up working for that month.

I have

Rock Im Park
Sun stroke
Twenty one pilots
Rammestein
Guns and roses

All in June. My boss is like eh are you planning to be here for any of that month

But Zero for August so bring it on

Poorside · 25-02-2020 03:03PM

endainoz wrote: »

Good point, it's inevitable we will have cases here soon. Let's hope we have the aul vaccine by EP time eh?

Time to dig out the aul iodine tablet.

Seathrun66 · 25-02-2020 03:17PM

endainoz wrote: »

Good point, it's inevitable we will have cases here soon. Let's hope we have the aul vaccine by EP time eh?

WHO estimate is 18 months before a vaccine is publicly available.

Much depends on the preparation, quarantine facilities and resoinse teams. As to events going ahead we're really in the hands of the health authorities.

endainoz · 25-02-2020 03:26PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

WHO estimate is 18 months before a vaccine is publicly available.

Much depends on the preparation, quarantine facilities and resoinse teams. As to events going ahead we're really in the hands of the health authorities.

On the off chance things do get really serious I'd say a vaccine will come quicker. I still believe this is overhyped by the media but it still has potential to get worse. We'll have to wait and see.

scruff monkey · 25-02-2020 03:58PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

...we're really in the hands of the health authorities.

we live in Ireland...

Fics · 25-02-2020 04:12PM

Definitely think it's a real possibility for all large gatherings to be cancelled if it gets bad here like in Northern Italy - they cancelled a festival carnival in Venice on Saturday!

Lotus Flower · 25-02-2020 07:44PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

RATM definitely not.

Run the Jewels yes.

The other three are young Irish bands, two of whom have only been gigging for less than 3 years, the others a local Athy band whose debut was 2.5 years ago.

In terms of the staleness I was referring to older acts who are not strangers to these shores and who've done EP at least once (Groove Armada, Jarvis Cocker, Rufus Wainwright, etc). By any standards it ain't cutting edge and ATN had the opportunity to be a bit more avant-garde.

In comparison EP is likely to have 40/50 acts who've never played the festival before. Alongside some new biggies they'll unearth the best of new bands as they always do.

In summary, ATN should be doing a lot better than this.

EP has been running for almost two decades so by law of averages, some previous acts will of course show up at ATN. And as we've seen from many Irish festivals, "avant-garde" just doesn't sell enough tickets.

Seathrun66 · 26-02-2020 01:52AM

Lotus Flower wrote: »

EP has been running for almost two decades so by law of averages, some previous acts will of course show up at ATN. And as we've seen from many Irish festivals, "avant-garde" just doesn't sell enough tickets.

Fifteen years so far, sixteen soon, and of course some former acts from EP will turn up, but 85-90% of the bill? ATN last year was much more adventurous - Black Midi, Olafur Arnolds, Anna Calvi, Fullee Love Collective, Bedouine and several others who'd not done Irish festivals, or appeared very rarely.

EP, despite its faults has 40/50 acts a year who've never played before. 2019 had
Richard Ashcroft, Razorlight, Toshín, Elma Orchestra & Ryan Vail, Billie Eilish, Serpentwithfeet, Sports Team, Working Men's Club, Montauk Hotel, Amelie Lens, Khartoum, The Strokes, Gerry Cinnamon, Christine & the Queens, Jessica Pratt, Lamb, Duff McKagan, Brittany Howard, Freya Risings, Charli XCX, Viagra Boys, Sons of Kemet, Yves Tumor, Biig Piig, Happyalone, Martian Subculture, Kneecap, Bodega, Courtney Barnett, J Hus, The Streets, Let's Eat Grandma, Georgia, Mitski, Sinead O'Brien and lots more I can't remember.

These acts keep the Picnic fresh. All festivals should be doing this and maybe they're trying but FR are spending big this year. We'll soon see.

bodhrandude · 26-02-2020 02:01AM

I've got two gigs and 3 festivals this year so far Nick Mason Saucerful of Secrets at end of April, the reggae day at Dun Laoghaire Harbour festival on June 1st, Body&Soul, ATN and Electric Picnic.

Seathrun66 · 26-02-2020 02:05AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

I've got two gigs and 3 festivals this year so far Nick Mason Saucerful of Secrets at end of April, the reggae day at Dun Laoghaire Harbour festival on June 1st, Body&Soul, ATN and Electric Picnic.

Nothing at the Galway Arts Fest? Though only about a third of the acts have been announced.

bodhrandude · 26-02-2020 04:46AM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Nothing at the Galway Arts Fest? Though only about a third of the acts have been announced.

It clashes with my weekend rest up after the hectic wedding of my nephew the weekend before, plus I then need to save a few quid for ATN the weekend after that I think, yup it starts July 31st which is about the same time as the Galway Races.

fish_fingers · 26-02-2020 10:06AM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Fifteen years so far, sixteen soon, and of course some former acts from EP will turn up, but 85-90% of the bill? ATN last year was much more adventurous - Black Midi, Olafur Arnolds, Anna Calvi, Fullee Love Collective, Bedouine and several others who'd not done Irish festivals, or appeared very rarely.

EP, despite its faults has 40/50 acts a year who've never played before. 2019 had
Richard Ashcroft, Razorlight, Toshín, Elma Orchestra & Ryan Vail, Billie Eilish, Serpentwithfeet, Sports Team, Working Men's Club, Montauk Hotel, Amelie Lens, Khartoum, The Strokes, Gerry Cinnamon, Christine & the Queens, Jessica Pratt, Lamb, Duff McKagan, Brittany Howard, Freya Risings, Charli XCX, Viagra Boys, Sons of Kemet, Yves Tumor, Biig Piig, Happyalone, Martian Subculture, Kneecap, Bodega, Courtney Barnett, J Hus, The Streets, Let's Eat Grandma, Georgia, Mitski, Sinead O'Brien and lots more I can't remember.

These acts keep the Picnic fresh. All festivals should be doing this and maybe they're trying but FR are spending big this year. We'll soon see.

It might be time to retire this conversation, as long as I get to speak last

Just looking at your list for those who've never played here before and there are some that have...straight off I see Ryan Vail, Christine & the Queens, Biig Piig, J Hus. I guess you're only referring to those that haven't played an actual festival here. I still believe that ATN is finding other bands that haven't played here too, thus keeping things fresh too. Relativity...as one guy referred to it a while back

fourmations · 26-02-2020 11:26AM

we've never had Alt-J, have we?

Dull as dishwater live but brilliant music IMO,

Seathrun66 · 26-02-2020 02:20PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

It clashes with my weekend rest up after the hectic wedding of my nephew the weekend before, plus I then need to save a few quid for ATN the weekend after that I think, yup it starts July 31st which is about the same time as the Galway Races.

It runs for two weeks from the 13th to 26th July inclusive. Jon Hopkins, Pixies, etc plus there's always some trad at Monroes & the Róisín. It's a great fortnight.

Seathrun66 · 26-02-2020 02:22PM

fish_fingers wrote: »

It might be time to retire this conversation, as long as I get to speak last

Just looking at your list for those who've never played here before and there are some that have...straight off I see Ryan Vail, Christine & the Queens, Biig Piig, J Hus. I guess you're only referring to those that haven't played an actual festival here. I still believe that ATN is finding other bands that haven't played here too, thus keeping things fresh too. Relativity...as one guy referred to it a while back

Specifically acts that never played EP before as per the first line of that paragraph.

endainoz · 26-02-2020 02:45PM

Looks like June has yet another gig added, crowded house have added a date in king John's castle the day after Green Day.

sally cinnamon89 · 26-02-2020 02:45PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Specifically acts that never played EP before as per the first line of that paragraph.

Both have that in that respect. Plenty of acts on ATN that haven't been on the Irish Festival circuit in a while like Iggy, Girlband, Diiv, Lankum, King Gizz and more

fish_fingers · 26-02-2020 02:56PM

sally cinnamon89 wrote: »

Both have that in that respect. Plenty of acts on ATN that haven't been on the Irish Festival circuit in a while like Iggy, Girlband, Diiv, Lankum, King Gizz and more

And ATN had 100% of its artists from 2018 never playing there before and close to that in 2019...There will be a good percentage this year too.

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