39 people found dead in trailer in UK

CamelRider2k · 24-01-2020 12:46pm

A High Court judge has found there is nothing to "preclude" him from surrendering a Northern Irish man wanted in the UK to face multiple counts of manslaughter following the discovery of 39 dead Vietnamese nationals in a lorry trailer in Essex.

goat2 · 25-01-2020 9:06pm

On one of the news channels last night, it said that the driver was getting one thousand pounds per passenger on those trailers, , so a few hours run earned these people a fair bit of money

Spanish Eyes · 25-01-2020 9:08pm

I suppose it has all stopped now, and will never happen again forevermore.

Boggles · 25-01-2020 9:08pm

goat2 wrote: »

On one of the news channels last night, it said that the driver was getting one thousand pounds per passenger on those trailers, , so a few hours run earned these people a fair bit of money

40 k just for the driver?

No chance I reckon.

goat2 · 25-01-2020 9:17pm

Boggles wrote: »

40 k just for the driver?

No chance I reckon.

I thought it was a lot, but if those people are being charged five thousand each, then I could see the driver getting his share ,

Boggles · 25-01-2020 9:31pm

goat2 wrote: »

I thought it was a lot, but if those people are being charged five thousand each, then I could see the driver getting his share ,

Maybe it is, you would imagine it would have to be a fair lump of cash for the risk.

Still even if it is 40K this guy will spend at least 10 years in jail. 4 grand a year doesn't seem so good now.

KiKi III · 25-01-2020 9:33pm

Boggles wrote: »

Maybe it is, you would imagine it would have to be a fair lump of cash for the risk.

Still even if it is 40K this guy will spend at least 10 years in jail. 4 grand a year doesn't seem so good now.

Presumably any criminal assets will be seized so it’ll be €0/year

goat2 · 25-01-2020 9:36pm

Boggles wrote: »

Maybe it is, you would imagine it would have to be a fair lump of cash for the risk.

Still even if it is 40K this guy will spend at least 10 years in jail. 4 grand a year doesn't seem so good now.

I would not like to be in his place, it was all a big fast money making racket, and it is no harm it has been brought to an end, but it is terrible that people died for this to be found out, lapses in security must have gone on

Spanish Eyes · 25-01-2020 9:37pm

KiKi III wrote: »

Presumably any criminal assets will be seized so it’ll be €0/year

Not sure if he will be subject to CAB, being a UK/NI resident. But anyway no one should profit from crime.

When we look at the scrotes running round the Northside of Dublin and Drogheda at the moment, I don't see any confiscation of assets there. But maybe it is an ongoing thing that takes time.

The only way to get them is in the cash goolies.

Spanish Eyes · 25-01-2020 9:39pm

And another thing, one trafficker taken out, another will substitute surely.

Well that is the received wisdom regarding taking out the honchos in the drugs trade.

I dunno.

Granny15 · 25-01-2020 9:47pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Not sure if he will be subject to CAB, being a UK/NI resident. But anyway no one should profit from crime.

When we look at the scrotes running round the Northside of Dublin and Drogheda at the moment, I don't see any confiscation of assets there. But maybe it is an ongoing thing that takes time.

The only way to get them is in the cash goolies.

Scrotes? Next it will be immigrants or poor unfortunates on the dole on the receiving end of you ire. Be careful about elevating yourself above said people without knowing anything about their background/upbringing.

Quantum Erasure · 08-04-2020 9:31pm

just saw this mentioned on the 9oclock news, seems a long time ago now

Armagh lorry driver Maurice Robinson pleads guilty to 39 counts of manslaughter

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/armagh-lorry-driver-maurice-robinson-pleads-guilty-to-39-counts-of-manslaughter-39113828.html

Robinson appeared at court via video link alongside four other co-defendants. British Romanian Gheorghe Nica, 43, Romanian national Alexandru-Ovidiu Hanga, 27, Christopher Kennedy, 23, of Corkley Road in Darkley, Co Armagh, and Valentin Calota, 37, of Cossington Road in Birmingham,

Prosecutor William Emlyn Jones QC said a human trafficking conspiracy charge was being dropped in relation to Kennedy and Robinson.

Edgware · 08-04-2020 10:59pm

Very early guilty plea?

JustAThought · 08-04-2020 11:07pm

A phrase you never see nowadays in the liberal media - unlawful immigration.

At least they are being tried in the UK courts and so will probably face consequences for their actions.

No consequences bar profits for the people smugglers in Africa and illegally across European borders - I doubt he can sleep at night or ever will again but I still hope they throw the book at them.

contrary_devil · 09-04-2020 5:12am

Edgware wrote: »

Very early guilty plea?

Possibly advised to do so and probably not by his legal representative

Plead guilty = no trial = less examination = less chance of higher ups being implicated = do your time in reasonable safety.

Witchie · 20-04-2020 6:02pm

Not saying it IS related, but a friend of mine lives near some other parties wanted in relation to this crime and she says there is a lot of Gardai activity happening about now.

Hopefully some progress.

Edit: They got Ronan Hughes.

20-04-2020 8:06pm

Witchie wrote: »

Not saying it IS related, but a friend of mine lives near some other parties wanted in relation to this crime and she says there is a lot of Gardai activity happening about now.

Hopefully some progress.

Edit: They got Ronan Hughes.

Were they there the whole time? The Hughes brothers.

Witchie · 20-04-2020 8:32pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Were they there the whole time? The Hughes brothers.

Yes, as far as I know. There was no international arrest warrant so they felt safe. I reckon that Mo's testimony last week was enough for the warrant. Still haven't gotten Christopher.

Ronan's wife was still posting photos of hair she had done in her wee hair cabin as she calls it a week or so ago. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a way to launder the cash coz she only does a handful of people a week. She also told one (now ex) customer that I personally know, that she has to do 2 sets of books for his business so it's not hard to know she knew what was going on and should be arrested as an accessory

StackSteevens · 12-06-2020 1:32pm

"A High Court judge has ordered the extradition of a Monaghan haulier to the United Kingdom, where he is wanted for allegedly trafficking 39 migrants found dead in a lorry container in Essex last year.

After the ruling, the High Court heard that Ronan Hughes, 40, wants to be surrendered to UK authorities "as soon as possible" and the order will come into effect on Monday."

So "Ronan Hughes, 40, wants to be surrendered to UK authorities "as soon as possible" - makes one wonder why he bothered wasting the Court's time contesting the European Arrest Warrant in the first place. Presumably the Irish taxpayer had the privilege of paying for his Senior Counsel.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/essex-lorry-case-high-court-rules-irishman-can-be-extradited-to-uk-for-manslaughter-charges-1004897.html

ArmaniJeanss · 22-01-2021 4:15pm

Sizeable sentences for everyone involved, from 27 years for the Romanian ringleader to 13.5 years for the driver on the UK side.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/22/essex-lorry-deaths-two-ringleaders-jailed-total

ohnonotgmail · 22-01-2021 4:33pm

Sentences handed down today in this case. Sentences of 18 years and 13 years 4 months for the two drivers https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-55765213

FrancieBrady · 22-01-2021 4:38pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Sentences handed down today in this case. Sentences of 18 years and 13 years 4 months for the two drivers https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-55765213

I was expecting longer for all of them.

d51984 · 22-01-2021 4:42pm

ROT IN HELL... SCUMBAGS.

Atlantic Dawn · 22-01-2021 4:45pm

Hopefully that sentencing acts as a deterrent.

Perhaps I am naive but what I just can't get my head around is that each of the victims paid £13k to the people smugglers to get them to the UK, would it not have been far easier with that kind of outlay to fly in as a legitimate 'tourist' for 2 weeks and just stay there?

ohnonotgmail · 22-01-2021 4:46pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Hopefully that sentencing acts as a deterrent.

Perhaps I am naive but what I just can't get my head around is that each of the victims paid £13k to the people smugglers to get them to the UK, would it not have been far easier with that kind of outlay to fly in as a legitimate 'tourist' for 2 weeks and just stay there?

they probably wouldn't get past the border.

Calypso Realm · 22-01-2021 4:49pm

The judge did state that the Vietnamese 'ringleader', who recruited the migrants was still at large.

Reckon his sentence would be much stiffer, though I doubt very much somehow if he'll ever be apprehended. Sadly.

ArmaniJeanss · 22-01-2021 4:57pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Hopefully that sentencing acts as a deterrent.

Perhaps I am naive but what I just can't get my head around is that each of the victims paid £13k to the people smugglers to get them to the UK, would it not have been far easier with that kind of outlay to fly in as a legitimate 'tourist' for 2 weeks and just stay there?

Would seem an easier way to do it alright.

I'd assume that they would surely have tried that way originally - applied for a holiday visa in the UK embassy in Vietnam, filled in all the forms, application fees etc, but been rejected for the visa.

The UK Foreign Office is presumably on the ball about these things - a solo traveller (or even family) in their 30s/40s who's never previously went outside Vietnam, only recently got a passport & suddenly fancying 2 weeks exploring the royal castles of England probably sets of loads of alarm bells and flashing red lights.

ohnonotgmail · 22-01-2021 4:58pm

American style consecutive sentences would have been appropriate in this case. 27 Years times 39 would be more like it.

Calypso Realm · 22-01-2021 4:58pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Hopefully that sentencing acts as a deterrent.

Perhaps I am naive but what I just can't get my head around is that each of the victims paid £13k to the people smugglers to get them to the UK, would it not have been far easier with that kind of outlay to fly in as a legitimate 'tourist' for 2 weeks and just stay there?

Apparently it's extremely difficult to get a visitor's visa hence the need to turn to people smugglers.

All this sadly reminds me of a nail bar in a town near me where on every occasion I passed the premises, the manager was always standing at the door. I always thought it was strange at the time but looking back now, I reckon most of the Vietnamese workers were illegals and he was on the look out for a possible raid from Border Force.

fergiesfolly · 22-01-2021 5:08pm

I cannot for the life of me understand how these are not full life sentences.
39 people are dead. Horrific, excruciating deaths.
Some of these men will be walking the streets in a decade or less.
None of them deserve to see the light of day ever again.

39 people found dead in trailer in UK

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