ISIS people returning thread - no Lisa Smith talk (21/12/19)

In my opinion if someone gets bail with strict bail than it saves tax.

After all she did swear on the Quran to truth.

So all good.

Do strict ISIS Muslims celebrate Christmas? Or are they just willing to spin a yarn to get out of trouble/custody?

You remove their status as a citizen, then deport them to their original country.
Denmark is already doing this.

For asylum seekers, just stop the process here and deport them.

Boggles wrote: »

I'm talking about an Irish citizen who does not have dual nationality.

How do you "eject" them?

How do "eject" any citizen of a proscribed organisation?

Some sort of large catapult or trebuchet ?

And an ex FG candidate getting ripped to shreds in the media and by other politicians for saying we have a problem with migration into the country.

Meanwhile the war hero returns home as if it was all a bad dream.

Something seriously wrong in this country.

Boggles wrote: »

He got called out rightly for being a little populous racist boll



Or detained and bailed with strict conditions to face a trial that commands an up to 8 year sentence.

But you have no real interest in reality have you?

Who actually pays you to call everyone racist and defend someone like Smith.

biko wrote: »

Accepting ISIS members back to civilisation will always be a bad idea.

there isn't any other option.
they belong to their country of origin wherever it may be, if those countries refuse to take them back, then other countries have a right to refuse taking back citizens for any reason, big or small.

biko wrote: »

They left civilisation to live in their caliphate so they have denounced their original countries.

that's ultimately irrelevant.
the caliphate was never going anywhere thankfully.

biko wrote: »

We need to leave them there.

that's not possible, at least not indefinitely.
the syrians have a right to deport people back to where they came from.

biko wrote: »

They are simply regrouping now, in their safe spaces right under our noses, cheered on by local enablers and do-gooders.

mythical enablers and do gooders aren't cheering anyone on.
if they are managing to regroup in their home countries then that is the fault of the authorities there, however if they were left in syria they would be much, much more dangerous.

biko wrote: »

Don't people understand there will be a next wave of European Muslims that will try again?

there in all likely hood will be, however sensible countries will have the laws in place to stop members before they are able to do anything, on the basis of learning from how to handle isis.

biko wrote: »

They will try again and again until Islam rules the world.

i'm sure they may, but islam won't be ruling the world.

biko wrote: »

We need to prevent bad seeds from returning and eject bad seeds found here.

it's not possible to prevent people from a particular country from ultimately returning to that country.
the country can try, but those individuals can get back of their own accord, and the deporting country, as in syria, turkey etc, can simply throw them back or just release them depending on whatever they decide is best.
the reality is countries are going to have to grow up and deal with this, syria won't keep these people.
the only option on the table is sending people, who may have irish citizenship but aren't irish born, to their countries of origin if they are found to have had anything to do with isis, but then if they were just born in a country but hardly lived there, that other country probably isn't going to play ball.

end of the road wrote: »

i'm sure they may, but islam won't be ruling the world.

It seems they themselves really believe it, and looking at the spread if Islam I think it will happen too.
Islam is the fastest-growing religion
It's a death penalty to leave Islam.
Being a atheist in Middle East can get you killed.

You have nothing but wishful thinking to support your argument.

biko wrote: »

Which quote is the one you have problems with?

Why did you leave this one out?

But if you watch the news and you listen, and even our Taoiseach three weeks ago said he'd take in an extra 200, eh what do you call, migrants from Africa - these are economic migrants.

"These are people that are coming over here from Africa to sponge off the system here in Ireland

Listen if you think Noel gives a flying fúck about migrants from anywhere I have a bridge here that I can sell you on the cheap.

Actual I take that back he says he cares about "Christian" ones.

So a bit of religious bigotry thrown in for good measure.

The lad is an absolute Cretin, the only thing he gives a shít about is the 100,000s he is creaming in unvouched expenses.

People seem to have a very short memory when it comes to ISIS, perhaps this will remind them: https://youtu.be/i1Eqe5s1rmY

I haven’t embedded it so people have a choice to view it or not. Probably NSFW.

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

People seem to have a very short memory when it comes to ISIS, perhaps this will remind them: https://youtu.be/i1Eqe5s1rmY

I haven’t embedded it so people have a choice to view it or not. Probably NSFW.

For a few on here its not in their job description to view it, it might sway their judgement and have to stop calling people racist.

It seems some people have a way of forgetting the ISIS atrocities.
The more perplexing is they think it's good to bring home ISIS terrorists so the victim of ISIS and their perpetrators can actually meet.

Yazidi slave girl meets Isis captor in German street

end of the road wrote: »

there isn't any other option.
they belong to their country of origin wherever it may be, if those countries refuse to take them back, then other countries have a right to refuse taking back citizens for any reason, big or small.



that's ultimately irrelevant.
the caliphate was never going anywhere thankfully.



that's not possible, at least not indefinitely.
the syrians have a right to deport people back to where they came from.



mythical enablers and do gooders aren't cheering anyone on.
if they are managing to regroup in their home countries then that is the fault of the authorities there, however if they were left in syria they would be much, much more dangerous.



there in all likely hood will be, however sensible countries will have the laws in place to stop members before they are able to do anything, on the basis of learning from how to handle isis.



i'm sure they may, but islam won't be ruling the world.



it's not possible to prevent people from a particular country from ultimately returning to that country.
the country can try, but those individuals can get back of their own accord, and the deporting country, as in syria, turkey etc, can simply throw them back or just release them depending on whatever they decide is best.
the reality is countries are going to have to grow up and deal with this, syria won't keep these people.
the only option on the table is sending people, who may have irish citizenship but aren't irish born, to their countries of origin if they are found to have had anything to do with isis, but then if they were just born in a country but hardly lived there, that other country probably isn't going to play ball.

The first line of your comment may not be entirely accurate,


To become a member of ISIS isn't a person required to recind the citizenship of their home country?


Ie giving up theyre passports, and Right to a Passport?