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Irishman set to be deported from the US

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  • 13-07-2019 11:43pm
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    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭


    https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2019/0713/1061944-deportation/

    Irish father of three has been arrested by ICE for overstaying his holiday visa and is slated for deportation any day now. He apparently entered in 2007 and has been there ever since. He got married to an American national in 2009.

    Harsh deportation or fair enough because he was an overstayer?


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    #2
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Dragging a father away from his kids is not just harsh it's inhumane.


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    #3
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    He’s there illegally, chuck him out.

    No different than those over here illegally. Just cause he had kids is no reason to let him stay.


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    _blaaz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    America is a really really messed up place with a long while now



    Maybe he's better off here with his wife and kids


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    #5
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    His drug possession conviction back in Ireland probably prevented him from regularising his status in the US and taking citizenship. You'd imagine he'd have been naturalised long ago otherwise.

    Shows the value of keeping a clean bib, even if it's a particularly sharp implementation of immigration law.


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    Inquitus
    Registered Users Posts: 13,729 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Marijuana possession in his early 20's, its all a bit harsh, especially now he is married to a Yank with kids, seems like he is going to get shafted.


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    Jimbob1977
    Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    If there were no rules, penalties or sanctions, the US population would soar.

    Some Americans appear to want uncontrolled migration, with sanctuary cities turning a blind eye to everything. You can't have millions of people under the radar.

    Every country needs to control its own borders. Whether it's Ireland, Togo, Chile or the United States


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    Tweeter
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Tweeter


    He broke the law when he didn't leave when his visa expired.
    Case closed.


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    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,442 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The US is implementing it's laws.

    Some would argue we should take a more proactive approach to doing the same here.

    I really don't see how there can be any arguments on this case given what is known.


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    Fan of Netflix
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    I know some lads over there illegally. ICE are planning mass raids and deportation tomorrow. Very different to here, we don't deport many people.


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    mojesius
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Looks like their best option is to all join him back to Ireland. Plenty of work/opportunities for painters/decorators at present here. Weather might be a bit danker than what they're used to though


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    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    There country their rules .

    Nothing stopping his wife and kids relocating here ,
    If only we could implement the same here without people complaining about rights including for our own imported foreign criminal's
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    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    He chose to overstay knowing the risk of getting caught and sent home was always there. Not much else to be said.


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    Tweeter
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Tweeter


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    He chose to overstay knowing the risk of getting caught and sent home was always there. Not much else to be said.

    to break the law


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    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    What I find funny is that Obama deported so people in so much more effective way and without much fuss. Trump will never catch him and yet democrats won't mention it because they don't want to be associated with biggest deportation numbers and Trump won't point it out because he is pretending he is taking hard stance against immigration.

    So instead we get this type of stories. Of all the people they decide to evict is someone who has a job, pays his taxes, has a family and is trying to resolve his situation. Low laying fruit to improve the stats.


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    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Tweeter wrote: »
    to break the law

    Correct


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    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    meeeeh wrote: »
    What I find funny is that Obama deported so people in so much more effective way and without much fuss. Trump will never catch him and yet democrats won't mention it because they don't want to be associated with biggest deportation numbers and Trump won't point it out because he is pretending he is taking hard stance against immigration.

    So instead we get this type of stories. Of all the people they decide to evict is someone who has a job, pays his taxes, has a family and is trying to resolve his situation. Low laying fruit to improve the stats.

    They should all be sent packing.


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    Tweeter
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Tweeter


    meeeeh wrote: »
    What I find funny is that Obama deported so people in so much more effective way and without much fuss. Trump will never catch him and yet democrats won't mention it because they don't want to be associated with biggest deportation numbers and Trump won't point it out because he is pretending he is taking hard stance against immigration.

    So instead we get this type of stories. Of all the people they decide to evict is someone who has a job, pays his taxes, has a family and is trying to resolve his situation. Low laying fruit to improve the stats.

    Can you provide or link to the stats you mention?


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    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    They should all be sent packing.

    Well you seem to have a plan so you might want to advise Americans hiw to do it. Or is it again just hard man mounting off on the internet.


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    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Tweeter wrote: »
    Can you provide or link to the stats you mention?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.axios.com/immigration-ice-deportation-trump-obama-a72a0a44-540d-46bc-a671-cd65cf72f4b1.html

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/13/politics/obama-trump-deportations-illegal-immigration/index.html


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    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Well you seem to have a plan so you might want to advise Americans hiw to do it. Or is it again just hard man mounting off on the internet.

    Happy to help them if they ask but it looks like they have it in hand though. Are you one of those that thinks the rule of law doesn’t apply to illegal immigrants? Silly boy.


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    #22
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,236 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    America is moving away from neoliberal politics, in some regards, expect more of this.


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    Tweeter
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Tweeter


    meeeeh wrote: »
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.axios.com/immigration-ice-deportation-trump-obama-a72a0a44-540d-46bc-a671-cd65cf72f4b1.html

    Good come back as I hadn't expected this to be actually true.

    Nonetheless, it has nothing to do with the the OP, the dude broke the law and should be punished accordingly


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    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    Happy to help them if they ask but it looks like they have it in hand though. Are you one of those that thinks the rule of law doesn’t apply to illegal immigrants? Silly boy.

    No I am one of those who thinks you go first for criminals and recent arrivals, those who don't have jobs and not for people who integrated into community well. Your boy obviously decided to look at the permanent residency applications because they have addresses for those and decided to prioritise them against serious criminals who are not as accommodating at providing address.


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    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    meeeeh wrote: »
    No I am one of those who thinks you go first for criminals and recent arrivals, those who don't have jobs and not for people who integrated into community well. Your boy obviously decided to look at the permanent residency applications because they have addresses for those and decided to prioritise them against serious criminals who are not as accommodating at providing address.

    They are all fair game, ‘low hanging fruit’ (in your words) or not.


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    BRYAN Is Ainm Dom
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭BRYAN Is Ainm Dom


    If was other way and he was illegal here, people would be calling to deport immediately.


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    Tweeter
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Tweeter


    meeeeh wrote: »
    No I am one of those who thinks you go first for criminals and recent arrivals, those who don't have jobs and not for people who integrated into community well. Your boy obviously decided to look at the permanent residency applications because they have addresses for those and decided to prioritise them against serious criminals who are not as accommodating at providing address.

    So breaking the law with utter contempt for the country that you have successfully integrated into is cool? Or have I got that wrong?


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    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Some interesting figures surrounding the cost of deportations in the US. It costs around $13k to execute each deportation on average. A think thank (probably a right-leaning one it must be said) estimates that an unskilled undocumented immigrant uses $75k more of public services than they put into the economy over their lifetime (on average).

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/04/28/deportation-costs-immigration/307548001/


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    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    BRYAN Is Ainm Dom wrote: »
    If was other way and he was illegal here, people would be calling to deport immediately.

    Some people would, others would be organising marches / protests and social media campaigns to keep him here. Plus the appeals process would be endless.


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    Tweeter
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Tweeter


    Yurt! wrote: »
    It costs around $13k to execute each deportation on average.

    Worth it


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    How many illegal undocumented Irish over there get deported each year, barely ever makes the news are we talking a handful?


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