Irishman set to be deported from the US

Sonny noggs

kneemos wrote: »

He was working with officials to change his status.
Nothing more he could have done. Weird they locked him up.

He broke the cardinal rule by overstaying. Had he left as expected and applied through the proper channels he would likely be there legally now.

jam_mac_jam

Sonny noggs wrote: »

kneemos wrote: »

He was working with officials to change his status.
Nothing more he could have done. Weird they locked him up.

He broke the cardinal rule by overstaying. Had he left as expected and applied through the proper channels he would likely be there legally now.

Not really.It's very hard to emigrate to the US unless with work.

Sonny noggs

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Not really.It's very hard to emigrate to the US unless with work.

And even harder if you overstay before applying.

MrMusician18

In fairness, this guy is going to be deported to one of the wealthiest countries in the world, it's hardly the worst thing that could happen.

There will be no issue for his family joining him here either. Yeah, it's not exactly what he wants, but this is the risk you take when you overstay in the States.

Rows Grower

I started a thread when I saw this as the headline story on RTE 1 news at 6. I had no idea of this threads existence but I am very happy to have found it and to read the opinions of others.

How in the name of God this story can be considered worthy of being the main news in Ireland today is just beyond me.

MrMusician18

Rows Grower wrote: »

I started a thread when I saw this as the headline story on RTE 1 news at 6. I had no idea of this threads existence but I am very happy to have found it and to read the opinions of others.

How in the name of God this story can be considered worthy of being the main news in Ireland today is just beyond me.

It's a particularly slow Sunday in silly season. Expect more non newsworthy stores filling the airwaves in the coming weeks

kneemos

Rows Grower wrote: »

I started a thread when I saw this as the headline story on RTE 1 news at 6. I had no idea of this threads existence but I am very happy to have found it and to read the opinions of others.

How in the name of God this story can be considered worthy of being the main news in Ireland today is just beyond me.

Still beats Brexit.

jam_mac_jam

MrMusician18 wrote: »

In fairness, this guy is going to be deported to one of the wealthiest countries in the world, it's hardly the worst thing that could happen.

There will be no issue for his family joining him here either. Yeah, it's not exactly what he wants, but this is the risk you take when you overstay in the States.

Yeah exactly. Way more sympathy for people to be deportated to poor countries.

The argument that's made that he made his life there doesn't realy justify it because he shouldn't have had kids there or bought a house if he was illegal.

What did he expect. You are not emigrating legally with two convictions

Rows Grower

kneemos wrote: »

Still beats Brexit.

I'd listen to your man's whinging wife all day and night instead of Brexit!

splinter65

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Im sure his wife and stepchild will soon be proud owners of brand new irish passports.

She’d have to be living here with him for 3 years before she’d be considered for citizenship which will cost them €1000+
That’ll take another 6 months and then she can make enquiries about her child.

Asitis2019

I'm divided on this issue.

On one side, America is the land of second chances. He has established himself, and is contributing to society. I think that people like this gentleman should be allowed an opportunity to stay in America, especially in light of his circumstances.

At the same time, he is a criminal and he has broken the law. He has no legal right to be in the country. He is not playing by the rules, so on balance should be deported.

Limpy

Most of the knee jerkers will blame Trumps policy's but if your man was Nigerian and arguing his case to stay in Ireland they would say chuck him and the family out.

Anonymagician

Asitis2019 wrote: »

I'm divided on this issue.

On one side, America is the land of second chances. He has established himself, and is contributing to society. I think that people like this gentleman should be allowed an opportunity to stay in America, especially in light of his circumstances.

At the same time, he is a criminal and he has broken the law. He has no legal right to be in the country. He is not playing by the rules, so on balance should be deported.

I would agree with this. It is conflicting. It's a serious flaw that he was allowed to obtain a social security number, buy a home, register his own business etc all while working through appeals with ICE and then they just arrest him on his way to work on a random day.

They knew where he was all along and he has been engaging with authorities for ten years. Why now?

While he did break the law and has to face the consequences, I think it highlights wider issues within the system past this particular case.

Sunny Disposition

The top story on the 9pm news is this guy who deliberately broke the law having the appropriate sanction imposed.
They referred to his wife by her first name, clearly taking her side and gave advice on what people should do if they are concerned. Unprofessional reporting.

is_that_so

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

The top story on the 9pm news is this guy who deliberately broke the law having the appropriate sanction imposed.
They referred to his wife by her first name, clearly taking her side and gave advice on what people should do if they are concerned. Unprofessional reporting.

No it's human interest and public service in terms of what people should do.
They are not telling you what to think.

Anonymagician

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

The top story on the 9pm news is this guy who deliberately broke the law having the appropriate sanction imposed.
They referred to his wife by her first name, clearly taking her side and gave advice on what people should do if they are concerned. Unprofessional reporting.

Despite what you think, all human beings actually do have rights. They are advising against letting anyone raid your home without a judge-issued warrant. The announcement of raids is open season for opportunist home robberies etc. It's basic safety advice.

splinter65

Anonymagician wrote: »

Despite what you think, all human beings actually do have rights. They are advising against letting anyone raid your home without a judge-issued warrant. The announcement of raids is open season for opportunist home robberies etc. It's basic safety advice.

Did they advise people not to break immigration laws as there maybe serious consequences ?

branie2

Awful

tuxy

Asitis2019 wrote: »

On one side, America is the land of second chances.

How so? People in America can get very lengthy sentences for minor criminal offences.

Yurt2

If every Irish person was as cavelier with US immigration law (i.e overstaying) there would be the very real possibility of the US withdrawing Ireland's access to the visa waiver program (or ESTA) - and back to the days of visa interviews for all who wish to go to Disneyland with their kids.

tuxy

Good point the and very few airports around the world have pre-clearance for the USA. It comes in very handy we shouldn't take it for granted.

Calhoun

Limpy wrote: »

Most of the knee jerkers will blame Trumps policy's but if your man was Nigerian and arguing his case to stay in Ireland they would say chuck him and the family out.

To be fair allot of the people who would like to see this guy get a pass would also like to see economic migrants coming to Ireland be afforded the same courtesy.

Its actually a common debating tactic used when anyone complains about economic migrants taking the piss here.

Credit Checker Moose

facehugger99

Another example of RTE peddling their hard-left agenda - they really are a despicable broadcaster. I wish they could be held to account.

seasidedub

"Tough, but rules are rules , of course the Irish think the rules are for the Mexicans , not for them "

Great point, and true. I once heard a guy on Joe Duffy whinging that he couldn't get to his brothers funeral in Ireland as he was illegally in the States and if he left he wouldn't get back in. In the nect breath he said "the place is overrun with the Spanish" (he meant latinos but was unable to differentiate....)

I couldn't believe his ignorance- he really believed he was "better" than the Latino illegals.

The guy on the news is an illegal alien. End of.

InTheShadows

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

RTE have this as the headline on the 6pm news, Jesus wept.

RTE are massively left leaning so they will virtue signal the hell out of this story. If Obama was President it wouldn't be on their agenda.

whisky_galore

Cute hoor Irish boy thinks laws don't apply to him shocker.
In fairness he isn't being deported to a war torn country.
Boo hoo.

Atlantic Dawn

InTheShadows wrote: »

RTE are massively left leaning so they will virtue signal the hell out of this story. If Obama was President it wouldn't be on their agenda.

Or his handlings at the border being much more than Trump or Clinton getting blowies from an intern.

Charles Babbage

Truly odd that this is the main news on RTÉ.

Credit Checker Moose

Next we will have the bleeding heart Healy-Raes writing to Trump to spare him.