Irishman set to be deported from the US

tuxy

Credit Checker Moose wrote: »

Next we will have the bleeding heart Healy-Raes writing to Trump to spare him.

I really hate those left wing Healy-Raes liberal supports :mad:

Timberrrrrrrr

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Truly odd that this is the main news on RTÉ.

It's news because the "left" want you to feel sorry for him, you will soon see varadkar or other ministers calling for varadkar to "step in" and either ensure he is allowed stay (irish vote in us is huge) or his wife/step son get "emergency" irish passports/citizens.


Personally think he has no case, deport straight away and let him either legitimately re-apply for us citizenship or letnher apply for Irish citizenship.

TimeToShine

Not only was he illegally overstaying but he was also running a painting business illegally and you can bet he was paying the lads in cash so not a cent in taxes paid.

Deport him.

Atlantic Dawn

His only croime was committing a crime.

Kivaro

facehugger99 wrote: »

Another example of RTE peddling their hard-left agenda - they really are a despicable broadcaster. I wish they could be held to account.

This.
And those on the liberal left are probably not paying the €160 television tax. It's those that RTE are continuously assailing (the working man and woman) that is paying the money to keep their "stars" and board in such a high living standard.

Atlantic Dawn

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Truly odd that this is the main news on RT

Will there be disclosure at to why it was selected?


What next, a fella who broke in to a bank and broke a nail looking for compensation?

TheRiverman

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Will there be disclosure at to why it was selected?


What next, a fella who broke in to a bank and broke a nail looking for compensation?

Last week on the 9pm News we got a story about a rat in the Dail bar another about a dancing Cockatoo.
I can't wait to pay the licence when it is due,puke.

circular flexing

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Some sense of entitlement from the wife - “no intention of accepting that” regarding his latest refusal.

Only one article I have read has mentioned his overstay as one of the reasons his applications were rejected. But most articles are blaming it solely on the marijuana for sympathy with their target demographic, but intentionally ignoring the primary reason - the overstay.

It could very well be the marijuana caution/conviction that is the problem - under US immigration law, someone who has overstayed their visa can still be allowed to regularise their status if they are married to a US citizen even if the wedding happens after the authorised period of stay has ended (as is what happened here). It sounds like he has done this and had an application for a green card in.

The problem is that anyone with arrest/conviction for possession of drugs is not allowed to use the visa waiver program and should apply for a visa at the embassy instead. It sounds like he didn't do this so it looks like he should never have been allowed enter the US in the first place.

Sunny Disposition

It is very poor from RTÉ, first and foremost in deciding that was the top story.

Plus the way they reported it was extremely one eyed. They included an interview with his wife, not a spokesman for the immigration authorities or even a lawyer specializing in US immigration.

This is not balanced journalism.

Yurt2

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

It is very poor from RTÉ, first and foremost in deciding that was the top story.

Plus the way they reported it was extremely one eyed. They included an interview with his wife, not a spokesman for the immigration authorities or even a lawyer specializing in US immigration.

This is not balanced journalism.

The young Irish blonde lady in the RTE (TV) news piece is an immigration law specialist practicing in Chicago as far as I know. I can't recall her name, but she's something of a hotshot in Irish-American political circles at the moment.

Graces7

https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/0714/1062065-irish-man-deportation-family/

as some here predicted... "family torn apart.."

heldel00

I have a few brothers-in-law who are illegal in New York. One phoned yesterday to say they can't leave the house, some sort of serious clampdown operation happening in their area.
He says "ICE is everywhere" - Mother-in -law heard that as ISIS everywhere and wailed like a banshee for 15 minutes!

LillySV

facehugger99 wrote: »

Another example of RTE peddling their hard-left agenda - they really are a despicable broadcaster. I wish they could be held to account.

Couldn’t get over this being the first story last night.... I was aware of a biker losing his life in Westmeath and a young child knocked off their bicycle in Offaly and wanted to hear more about these stories ....and was left sickened to think this news was far less important that a previous drug user living illegally in USA for years now getting the boot!

Mongfinder General

heldel00 wrote: »

I have a few brothers-in-law who are illegal in New York. One phoned yesterday to say they can't leave the house, some sort of serious clampdown operation happening in their area.
He says "ICE is everywhere" - Mother-in -law heard that as ISIS everywhere and wailed like a banshee for 15 minutes!

The raids were basically telegraphed by Trump weeks ago, it's almost like he was giving people the chance to hide or go on the run. I'm surprised New York has been targeted, he has no chance of winning there in the election. I'd have thought that resources and raids would have been diverted to areas where his support is in the balance.

Beechwoodspark

His sister on morning ireland at mo giving the hard luck story

She is going on about how he is “documented” because he has a social security number and a driving Licence

is_that_so

TheRiverman wrote: »

Last week on the 9pm News we got a story about a rat in the Dail bar another about a dancing Cockatoo.
I can't wait to pay the licence when it is due,puke.

Summertime and the living is easy!

Rows Grower

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

His sister on morning ireland at mo giving the hard luck story

She is going on about how he is “documented” because he has a social security number and a driving Licence

It's all over BreakingNews.ie as well.

Who is driving this non story down our throats?

honeybear

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

His sister on morning ireland at mo giving the hard luck story

She is going on about how he is “documented” because he has a social security number and a driving Licence

Heard this interview. Have sympathy for this family. She began interview defensively and mentioned something about her brother had to get away from Ireland when he left. Can imagine family are going through a very tough time.

whisky_galore

honeybear wrote: »

Heard this interview. Have sympathy for this family. She began interview defensively and mentioned something about her brother had to get away from Ireland when he left. Can imagine family are going through a very tough time.

He could have gone to loads of other countries other than the States and anywhere in the EU.

Just because uncle Jimmy emigrated to Americay in the great Weetabix shortage of '53 doesn't entitle you to go and live there without a proper visa.

Mongfinder General

honeybear wrote: »

Heard this interview. Have sympathy for this family. She began interview defensively and mentioned something about her brother had to get away from Ireland when he left. Can imagine family are going through a very tough time.

Why and what did he have to get away from?

reg114

This is a situation that has arisen out of a very flawed system in the States that allows illegal immigrants to essentially become 'almost' fully indoctrinated tax paying members of society while still not fully legal citizens. In Ireland we have the exact opposite with people languishing in direct provision for years not being permitted to work. Neither system works. People travel to a country and enter illegally rather than apply for work before entry, precisely because they know they wont be allowed enter. This man knew exactly what he was doing and unfortunately for him his time has run out. There are many thousands of illegal Irish in the states who have been there for years, they are no different to the people boarding ships in the Mediterranean sea for Europe. There has to be a system of checks and balances. This man deserves to be deported and it looks like his family will have to leave the states if they want to stay together.

nthclare

Poor guy he's all over the media and his previous convictions are splattered everywhere.

His employment future is questionable, a few friends of mine got deported and one had kids and a partner.

In fairness he took it like a man, accepted his deportation didn't have any media frenzy and went back to Ireland, eventually his partner followed suit and now he's running a business here.

Sometimes life isn't fair and inevitably if you're doing something illegal there's always a chance of getting caught.

If he was allowed to stay he'd be setting a precedent, so there's no winner here.

Hopefully when he's home the dust will settle and he'll be able to get on with it and someone will look after him.

I hear the illegal Irish over there are waking up these days to the inevitable of getting caught, if my circumstances were different I could have been one of those men or women.

BarryD2

nthclare wrote: »

Poor guy he's all over the media and his previous convictions are splattered everywhere.

I agree though I guess the media exposure may be a two way thing. That the family reckon there might be a benefit accruing if they kick up a big fuss etc. Who knows, it may work for them?

dodderangler

meeeeh wrote: »

Dragging a father away from his kids is not just harsh it's inhumane.

If he was a proper father he wouldn’t of put himself in that situation then.
Same rule applies everywhere. Obey the law or suffer the consequences.
Serves him right.

dodderangler

whisky_galore wrote: »

He could have gone to loads of other countries other than the States and anywhere in the EU.

Just because uncle Jimmy emigrated to Americay in the great Weetabix shortage of '53 doesn't entitle you to go and live there without a proper visa.

Well said

splinter65

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Why and what did he have to get away from?

A drugs conviction means he may have had a drug debt and had to go.
All of this still doesn’t mean that he could break the law or be treated any differently then any other overstayer.
There’s a serious amount of lack of personal responsibility in this country right now and it’s making people really really unhappy.
Instead of accepting that I ****ed up and we have to find a solution to the problem, it’s
1. Blame someone or something else
2. Complain moan and cry about the injustice done to you
3. Lose all your dignity and beg to be saved.
Cringe making.

Bob24

nthclare wrote: »

I hear the illegal Irish over there are waking up these days to the inevitable of getting caught

And I think that is one of the intended consequences of the publicity around these ICE raids: remind people of the potential consequences of illegal stays so that people who are considering doing it think twice, and some people who are already in that situation consider leaving.

Cryptopagan

Guy could have come back from the US during the recession and sat on the dole. Instead he sets up his own business, gets married, taking on his partner’s child from a previous relationship, starts a family. Can’t regularize his status because of some minor drug conviction. The reaction on boards? A bunch of self-righteous assholes going “waa-waa, he broke the law!!! Deport him!!!” I think Ireland should be allowed deport you lot to a leper colony.

Bob24

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

It is very poor from RTÉ, first and foremost in deciding that was the top story.

Plus the way they reported it was extremely one eyed. They included an interview with his wife, not a spokesman for the immigration authorities or even a lawyer specializing in US immigration.

This is not balanced journalism.

Agreed, but I think RTÉ might also involuntarily be playing the ICE’s tune. I am pretty sure one reason for US authorities to bring these raids to the attention of the media (beyond Trump’s electoral planning) is to deter potential and existing illegal immigrants by showing them what could happen to them if they insist in staying illegally. While it is not their main I tend given how they report the story, RTÉ is in a way conveying that message.

Fan of Netflix

Cryptopagan wrote: »

Guy could have come back from the US during the recession and sat on the dole. Instead he sets up his own business, gets married, taking on his partner’s child from a previous relationship, starts a family. Can’t regularize his status because of some minor drug conviction. The reaction on boards? A bunch of self-righteous assholes going “waa-waa, he broke the law!!! Deport him!!!” I think Ireland should be allowed deport you lot to a leper colony.

The difference is people on the dole aren't committing illegal activity.