Irishman set to be deported from the US

ToddyDoody

splinter65 wrote: »

Folk make me laugh making up excuse after excuse for Irish people who break the law abroad.
It’s as if foreign laws rules and regulations and conditions should apply to every other nationality but not Irish people.
Why?
Because everybody loves us!!
Either that or it’s that everyone else and his dog is to blame for this guy getting into a mess of his own making and getting turfed out. Now it seems you can blame the fact that there was a slump here when he should have come home.
...despite the fact that the slump was everywhere including the US!
Ludicrous and cringe making.

Not saying it was right, just saying it was prefectly understandable given the circumstances.

And it was still one less on social welfare.

Bob24

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

How did he manage to buy a house not being there legit? I thought money laundering and other legislation would come in to play?

Difficult to answer with certainty as we only have limited information and it is only provided by his wife who is providing her version of the truth.

However what I think looks quite plausible based on what we know is that after his illegal status started to become very problematic, he did engage with immigration authorities and applied to have his residence status made official. And that he was given some type of official but temporary residence documentation while that application was being reviewed and various appeals were being heard (which could have taken quite a long time).

Mongfinder General

Bob24 wrote: »

ESTA didn’t exist when he entered in 2007. Fair question however, even without ETSA he would have had to fill out an arrival form at the airport with questions about convictions in other jurisdiction and a commitment to provide truthful information.

Apologies, you're right but similar questions would have been asked of him through those hard copy forms you got when landing in the U.S. Chances are he was economical with the truth.

Another interesting incident happened at Dublin airport last week.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-woman-denied-entry-us?fbclid=IwAR2TpNMKlD666jCaEF7RsFqZPJXPmWdz6G3CfMPtbtD73GX5N7rfrN9J6zg

This one has more to it. Not sure what piqued U.S. immigration's interest.

interesting to read about this once

the signs that the irish times is going to make it one of their tedious campaigns is pain-inducing

Atlantic Dawn

RTE have this as the headline on the 6pm news, Jesus wept.

Timberrrrrrrr

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

RTE have this as the headline on the 6pm news, Jesus wept.

Next you will have elected officials saying Varadkar should be lobbying Trump to let him stay.

jam_mac_jam

Why would you have kids in a country where you are living illegally. No jobs in the whole of ireland or Europe. No sympathy at all. If you came from a poor country I would understand it a bit more but why you would put your kids through that for your own selfishness.

Atlantic Dawn

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Why would you have kids in a country where you are living illegally. No jobs in the whole of ireland or Europe. No sympathy at all. If you came from a poor country I would understand it a bit more but why you would put your kids through that for your own selfishness.

And he left Ireland in 2007, that was in the middle of the boom times, pretty much full employment.

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And he left Ireland in 2007, that was in the middle of the boom times, pretty much full employment.

generation emigration, shur the greatest individuals any country ever produced, every one an angel and a hero.

splinter65

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Not saying it was right, just saying it was prefectly understandable given the circumstances.

And it was still one less on social welfare.

This is what I’m talking about right here. If he didn’t want to come back here he could have gone to any other country.
Breaking the law especially if your putting your whole family’s welfare at risk is never ever “understandable”.

splinter65

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

RTE have this as the headline on the 6pm news, Jesus wept.

“Trump rolls up sleeves to get ready to throw much loved Irish man and adorable family out of the country in racist fit of temper! Democrats promise to return him and make him a congressman!”

facehugger99

People like him annoy me, they put the rest of us at risk of being refused visas because he decided he was going to abuse his.

Absolutely no sympathy for him or any like him who chose to illegally stay in a country.

kneemos

facehugger99 wrote: »

People like him annoy me, they put the rest of us at risk of being refused visas because he decided he was going to abuse his.

Absolutely no sympathy for him or any like him who chose to illegally stay in a country.

He was working with officials to change his status.
Nothing more he could have done. Weird they locked him up.

ToddyDoody

splinter65 wrote: »

This is what I’m talking about right here. If he didn’t want to come back here he could have gone to any other country.
Breaking the law especially if your putting your whole family’s welfare at risk is never ever “understandable”.

Is moving them to Ireland equivalent to putting their welfare at risk?

jam_mac_jam

kneemos wrote: »

facehugger99 wrote: »

People like him annoy me, they put the rest of us at risk of being refused visas because he decided he was going to abuse his.

Absolutely no sympathy for him or any like him who chose to illegally stay in a country.

He was working with officials to change his status.
Nothing more he could have done. Weird they locked him up.

He broke the law. What would you suggest? Just let him go?

splinter65

kneemos wrote: »

He was working with officials to change his status.
Nothing more he could have done. Weird they locked him up.

He could have left when he said he would.

splinter65

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Is moving them to Ireland equivalent to putting their welfare at risk?

No. Staying illegally in the US put their welfare at risk

ToddyDoody

splinter65 wrote: »

No. Staying illegally in the US put their welfare at risk

Against the balance of historical probabilies they get deported to Ireland and continue family life here. Many are now coming back voluntarily anyway.

Timberrrrrrrr

Im sure his wife and stepchild will soon be proud owners of brand new irish passports.

ToddyDoody

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Im sure his wife and stepchild will soon be proud owners of brand new irish passports.

You just need to sell it to the kids. The wife knew the risk.

ToddyDoody

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Against the balance of historical probabilies they get deported to Ireland and continue family life here. Many are now coming back voluntarily anyway.

seems the wife has a kid from another relationship so she cant move him easily.


Tough, but rules are rules , of course the Irish think the rules are for the Mexicans , not for them



I wish Ireland was as efficient at chucking out people who have no right to live here



Of course the Irish Times and RTE with their looney leftie mentality will have sobbing wife etc all over their broadcasts for days/weeks

biko

The wife of an Irishman facing deportation from the United States says his arrest came without warning.

... their applications have been turned down on numerous occasions.
The most recent refusal came earlier this year but Mrs Byrne said they had "no intention of accepting that".

It kinda sounds like he got ample warning.
Not that a warning is needed, he knew he was there illegally.

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

seems the wife has a kid from another relationship so she cant move him easily.


Tough, but rules are rules , of course the Irish think the rules are for the Mexicans , not for them



I wish Ireland was as efficient at chucking out people who have no right to live here



Of course the Irish Times and RTE with their looney leftie mentality will have sobbing wife etc all over their broadcasts for days/weeks

Not that efficient. They've been married for ten years.

Also if they're going to send him home why not drive him to the airport rather than prison?

Anonymagician

Looks like he might have some family connection to help with an appeal

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/they-keep-asking-when-their-daddys-coming-home-family-of-keith-byrne-as-he-faces-deportation-from-us-38311317.html

Sunny Disposition

These cases are click bait for the papers, of course he is not deserving of sympathy, no one can argue he didn’t put himself in this mess. It’s not like he thought he was not breaking the law, he 100% knew he was.

jam_mac_jam

Anonymagician wrote: »

Looks like he might have some family connection to help with an appeal

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/they-keep-asking-when-their-daddys-coming-home-family-of-keith-byrne-as-he-faces-deportation-from-us-38311317.html

I don't think that's going to make a lot of sifference

Sonny noggs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

interesting to read about this once

the signs that the irish times is going to make it one of their tedious campaigns is pain-inducing

Thankfully they don’t have much influence over President Trump and ICE.

TCM

Deleted User wrote:

Of course the Irish Times and RTE with their looney leftie mentality will have sobbing wife etc all over their broadcasts for days/weeks

Joe Duffy up next.

Sonny noggs

Bob24 wrote: »

ESTA didn’t exist when he entered in 2007. Fair question however, even without ETSA he would have had to fill out an arrival form at the airport with questions about convictions in other jurisdiction and a commitment to provide truthful information.

He used a ‘visa waiver program’, so whatever the ESTA predecessor was called. He didn’t have a visa.

Sonny noggs

Some sense of entitlement from the wife - “no intention of accepting that” regarding his latest refusal.

Only one article I have read has mentioned his overstay as one of the reasons his applications were rejected. But most articles are blaming it solely on the marijuana for sympathy with their target demographic, but intentionally ignoring the primary reason - the overstay.