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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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    #3452
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    tanko wrote: »
    10.3% calving didficulty, 40kgs carcase weight and skeletal of 121, proceed with caution i'd say.

    Big calves and dopey as hell


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    #3453
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭tanko


    sonnybill wrote: »
    Big calves and dopey as hell

    Sure it'll all be worth it when you're selling him!!!


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    #3454
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    sonnybill wrote: »
    Big calves and dopey as hell

    How many?


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    #3455
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    How many?

    3 I know of same deal.


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    #3456
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    How many?

    Only 3 calves I know of from this sire and same hassle


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    #3457
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    He well able to suck now


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    #3458
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,702 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    sonnybill wrote: »
    He well able to suck now

    Able to suck........he even went off and bought himself a nice jacket. :D

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3459
    furandfeather
    Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭furandfeather


    sonnybill wrote: »
    He well able to suck now

    He looks a fine calf


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    #3460
    Never wrestle with pigs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    sonnybill wrote: »
    He well able to suck now

    Some legs under that fella.


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    #3461
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    sonnybill wrote: »
    He well able to suck now

    he's got some timber under him, a great sign.


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    #3462
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    Interesting, have one overdue to him here at the moment. Long framey type cow by ERE so could be a nice mix with Loyal.

    Chunky little bull last night. I moved her into the bedded pen with two feet out, went up to change into wellies and when I got back he was out. Hour later he was up & sucking himself, just the way you want them!

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    #3463
    Never wrestle with pigs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    Put up a picture in a month and see how he goes.


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    #3464
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Has anyone used Wilodge Goldcard?
    Could you use him on heifers?


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    #3465
    ELP
    Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭ELP


    ELP wrote: »
    Anybody use Bova bull Rathlee Haribo SI4483?
    Have you any calves on the ground yet?
    What was he like for calving or how many days did he carry?
    Thanks for any replies

    Calved down today on her own and she was straight up sucking. Not the biggest but cow was out wintered and only a bit of silage.


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    #3466
    Seanhorse91
    Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Seanhorse91


    Anyone here have a price list for Bova straws? Thinking of getting a few straws off Loyal Lm4184. Seen some stock off him and and I think he’d be a great match to a few heifers I have for the bull in a months time.


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    #3467
    Sheep breeder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Seanhorse91 wrote: »
    Anyone here have a price list for Bova straws? Thinking of getting a few straws off Loyal Lm4184. Seen some stock off him and and I think he’d be a great match to a few heifers I have for the bull in a months time.

    10 Euro for loyal and gamin also 10 and if you buy 20 get 5 extra free, have found them over the years very easy to deal with and calls a bull exactly what he is and no big talk up.


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    #3468
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭tanko


    €10 each, buy 20 get 5 free.


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    #3469
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭tanko


    What are the Loyal calves like, what type of cows or heifers would he suit?


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    #3470
    Seanhorse91
    Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Seanhorse91


    Thanks for the swift reply lads. Gamin throwing nice stock from what I’ve seen. Any experience with Loyal?


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    #3471
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,702 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I ordered straws from Bova recently. The buy 20, get 5 free doesn't apply to Gamin (ZGM). Just to be aware of that. Also their royalty fees are pricey enough for pedigree stock. Straws are very reasonable though.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3472
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Sheep breeder wrote: »
    calls a bull exactly what he is and no big talk up.
    Like that in their book which helps when matching your cow


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    #3473
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭tanko


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    I ordered straws from Bova recently. The buy 20, get 5 free doesn't apply to Gamin (ZGM). Just to be aware of that. Also their royalty fees are pricey enough for pedigree stock. Straws are very reasonable though.

    According to the price list i got a few weeks ago that deal does apply to ZGM.


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    #3474
    Durrus Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Durrus Boy


    tanko wrote: »
    According to the price list i got a few weeks ago that deal does apply to ZGM.

    Yeah Tanko is right. That offer applies to ZGM as well. To be fair to Bova, they always throw in a few extra straws as well anyways. Dovea sometimes throw in the odd one but PG wouldn't even throw in a packet of sheaths when getting 40 or 50 straws.....


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    #3475
    Never wrestle with pigs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    tanko wrote: »
    What are the Loyal calves like, what type of cows or heifers would he suit?

    Very sweet, not to powerful that you'd be afraid to bull the Heifers. Something with a bit of size and a little bit of shape is best. Very easy calving bull with a bit of milk.

    Gamin can be used on large plain type heifers too. He brings very good muscle and a whopping top. If used on a powerful cow would bring savage good stock. Not much milk so would need a bit in the cow if looking for a replacement.

    Laurel is for mature cows and brings a good size calf with length. Will add a touch of muscle but not extreme. Not sure about milk yet. I've a nice heifer calf from him so be interesting to see how she matures.

    Excel is a really nice bull on a good size cow with a bit of muscle. Might not have much milk so would need some in the cow if looking for replacements also. Brings really nice correct and feminine females.

    Dubai is one of the most underrated bulls in the country IMO, brings good size, easy calving and just enough shape to make a good cow. Plenty of milk.

    Everyone is different, I like a rawer type cow with milk and size and I can go as extreme as I like on her iykwim. I found them sound to deal with.


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    #3476
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    Seanhorse91 wrote: »
    Anyone here have a price list for Bova straws? Thinking of getting a few straws off Loyal Lm4184. Seen some stock off him and and I think he’d be a great match to a few heifers I have for the bull in a months time.

    I stuck it up a few pages back.


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    #3477
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,702 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Bova Prices

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3478
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,702 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Lads, I specifically asked for my extra straws to be Gamin, but I was told the deal didn't apply to him.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3479
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,702 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »
    ..... Everyone is different, I like a rawer type cow with milk and size and I can go as extreme as I like on her iykwim. I found them sound to deal with.

    Ya agree. If you have a smaller muscley type cow, she has to be a great calver to add any sized bull to her. You always have the added worry then about calving her.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3480
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭tanko


    When was this, according to the 2019 price list it does apply to Gamin but i havent rang them.


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    #3481
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,702 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    A few days ago. I ended up getting them in Excel instead.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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