Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

sonnybill · 16-03-2019 04:36PM

tanko wrote: »

10.3% calving didficulty, 40kgs carcase weight and skeletal of 121, proceed with caution i'd say.

Big calves and dopey as hell

tanko · 16-03-2019 04:41PM

sonnybill wrote: »

Big calves and dopey as hell

Sure it'll all be worth it when you're selling him!!!

charolais0153 · 16-03-2019 06:31PM

sonnybill wrote: »

Big calves and dopey as hell

How many?

sonnybill · 17-03-2019 12:42AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

How many?

3 I know of same deal.

sonnybill · 17-03-2019 12:45AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

How many?

Only 3 calves I know of from this sire and same hassle

sonnybill · 17-03-2019 12:50AM

He well able to suck now

patsy_mccabe · 17-03-2019 02:15AM

sonnybill wrote: »

He well able to suck now

Able to suck........he even went off and bought himself a nice jacket.

furandfeather · 17-03-2019 09:39AM

sonnybill wrote: »

He well able to suck now

He looks a fine calf

Never wrestle with pigs · 17-03-2019 10:31PM

sonnybill wrote: »

He well able to suck now

Some legs under that fella.

TITANIUM. · 18-03-2019 08:03AM

sonnybill wrote: »

He well able to suck now

he's got some timber under him, a great sign.

Lady Haywire · 20-03-2019 01:21PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Interesting, have one overdue to him here at the moment. Long framey type cow by ERE so could be a nice mix with Loyal.

Chunky little bull last night. I moved her into the bedded pen with two feet out, went up to change into wellies and when I got back he was out. Hour later he was up & sucking himself, just the way you want them!

Never wrestle with pigs · 20-03-2019 06:11PM

Put up a picture in a month and see how he goes.

Hard Knocks · 20-03-2019 10:04PM

Has anyone used Wilodge Goldcard?
Could you use him on heifers?

ELP · 23-03-2019 08:00PM

ELP wrote: »

Anybody use Bova bull Rathlee Haribo SI4483?
Have you any calves on the ground yet?
What was he like for calving or how many days did he carry?
Thanks for any replies

Calved down today on her own and she was straight up sucking. Not the biggest but cow was out wintered and only a bit of silage.

Seanhorse91 · 25-03-2019 09:39PM

Anyone here have a price list for Bova straws? Thinking of getting a few straws off Loyal Lm4184. Seen some stock off him and and I think he’d be a great match to a few heifers I have for the bull in a months time.

Sheep breeder · 25-03-2019 09:49PM

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Anyone here have a price list for Bova straws? Thinking of getting a few straws off Loyal Lm4184. Seen some stock off him and and I think he’d be a great match to a few heifers I have for the bull in a months time.

10 Euro for loyal and gamin also 10 and if you buy 20 get 5 extra free, have found them over the years very easy to deal with and calls a bull exactly what he is and no big talk up.

tanko · 25-03-2019 09:50PM

€10 each, buy 20 get 5 free.

tanko · 25-03-2019 10:01PM

What are the Loyal calves like, what type of cows or heifers would he suit?

Seanhorse91 · 25-03-2019 10:07PM

Thanks for the swift reply lads. Gamin throwing nice stock from what I’ve seen. Any experience with Loyal?

patsy_mccabe · 25-03-2019 10:19PM

I ordered straws from Bova recently. The buy 20, get 5 free doesn't apply to Gamin (ZGM). Just to be aware of that. Also their royalty fees are pricey enough for pedigree stock. Straws are very reasonable though.

Hard Knocks · 25-03-2019 10:21PM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

calls a bull exactly what he is and no big talk up.

Like that in their book which helps when matching your cow

tanko · 25-03-2019 11:10PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I ordered straws from Bova recently. The buy 20, get 5 free doesn't apply to Gamin (ZGM). Just to be aware of that. Also their royalty fees are pricey enough for pedigree stock. Straws are very reasonable though.

According to the price list i got a few weeks ago that deal does apply to ZGM.

Durrus Boy · 25-03-2019 11:21PM

tanko wrote: »

According to the price list i got a few weeks ago that deal does apply to ZGM.

Yeah Tanko is right. That offer applies to ZGM as well. To be fair to Bova, they always throw in a few extra straws as well anyways. Dovea sometimes throw in the odd one but PG wouldn't even throw in a packet of sheaths when getting 40 or 50 straws.....

Never wrestle with pigs · 26-03-2019 01:53AM

tanko wrote: »

What are the Loyal calves like, what type of cows or heifers would he suit?

Very sweet, not to powerful that you'd be afraid to bull the Heifers. Something with a bit of size and a little bit of shape is best. Very easy calving bull with a bit of milk.

Gamin can be used on large plain type heifers too. He brings very good muscle and a whopping top. If used on a powerful cow would bring savage good stock. Not much milk so would need a bit in the cow if looking for a replacement.

Laurel is for mature cows and brings a good size calf with length. Will add a touch of muscle but not extreme. Not sure about milk yet. I've a nice heifer calf from him so be interesting to see how she matures.

Excel is a really nice bull on a good size cow with a bit of muscle. Might not have much milk so would need some in the cow if looking for replacements also. Brings really nice correct and feminine females.

Dubai is one of the most underrated bulls in the country IMO, brings good size, easy calving and just enough shape to make a good cow. Plenty of milk.

Everyone is different, I like a rawer type cow with milk and size and I can go as extreme as I like on her iykwim. I found them sound to deal with.

Pidae.m · 26-03-2019 09:28AM

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Anyone here have a price list for Bova straws? Thinking of getting a few straws off Loyal Lm4184. Seen some stock off him and and I think he’d be a great match to a few heifers I have for the bull in a months time.

I stuck it up a few pages back.

patsy_mccabe · 26-03-2019 10:31AM

Bova Prices

patsy_mccabe · 26-03-2019 10:34AM

Lads, I specifically asked for my extra straws to be Gamin, but I was told the deal didn't apply to him.

patsy_mccabe · 26-03-2019 10:41AM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

..... Everyone is different, I like a rawer type cow with milk and size and I can go as extreme as I like on her iykwim. I found them sound to deal with.

Ya agree. If you have a smaller muscley type cow, she has to be a great calver to add any sized bull to her. You always have the added worry then about calving her.

tanko · 26-03-2019 10:43AM

When was this, according to the 2019 price list it does apply to Gamin but i havent rang them.

patsy_mccabe · 26-03-2019 10:52AM

A few days ago. I ended up getting them in Excel instead.

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