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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTICE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18 jamesob123


    Hey everyone,

    Would someone happen to have the Tort paper from the last round?

    I can give you samples and stuff in return, it's the only thing I am missing.

    Cheers!


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭LawGirl3434


    jamesob123 wrote: »
    Hey everyone,

    Would someone happen to have the Tort paper from the last round?

    I can give you samples and stuff in return, it's the only thing I am missing.

    Cheers!

    Hey I do! Could swap for some sample Qs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    Hello everyone,

    Hope study is going well and that you are all so motivated and getting lots of study done. Unlike me who is only starting some study next week.

    Anyway, does anybody knows the predictions from city colleges or Griffith for Criminal and Eu law?

    I have some materials if for other topics if anybody is willing to swap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 clearsky99


    Hi all, would anyone have an up to date grid for constitutional and tort?

    Thank you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭holliek


    jewels652 wrote: »
    Hello everyone,

    Hope study is going well and that you are all so motivated and getting lots of study done. Unlike me who is only starting some study next week.

    Anyway, does anybody knows the predictions from city colleges or Griffith for Criminal and Eu law?

    I have some materials if for other topics if anybody is willing to swap.

    I'm looking or these too, criminal ,constitutional, company, contract and equity!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    jewels652 wrote: »
    Hello everyone,

    Hope study is going well and that you are all so motivated and getting lots of study done. Unlike me who is only starting some study next week.

    Anyway, does anybody knows the predictions from city colleges or Griffith for Criminal and Eu law?

    I have some materials if for other topics if anybody is willing to swap.


    Only starting to study this week for how many subjects? I am looking for some hope at the end of the long dark tunnel as I feel no motivation whatsoever and am starting to now get worried about my laziness !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    I am sitting two subjects criminal and Eu but for what I heard they suppose to be heavy subjects.
    How many are you sitting ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Leraf wrote: »
    Only starting to study this week for how many subjects? I am looking for some hope at the end of the long dark tunnel as I feel no motivation whatsoever and am starting to now get worried about my laziness !!

    It's always possible, I was silly and gave myself very little time after being abroad from summer. I got materials the 31st August and sat and passed 4 starting 36 days later. It's 32 days til they start now. You're well able, it won't be pleasant depending how far behind you are but it's always doable if you go at it now and don't get stuck in your head (easier said than done I know). Good luck!

    Oh and I have 4 again, 2 I've notes done for, started Con this week and Crim next week so I'll be in the same boat of a rough grind too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Breacnua


    It's always possible, I was silly and gave myself very little time after being abroad from summer. I got materials the 31st August and sat and passed 4 starting 36 days later. It's 32 days til they start now. You're well able, it won't be pleasant depending how far behind you are but it's always doable if you go at it now and don't get stuck in your head (easier said than done I know). Good luck!

    Oh and I have 4 again, 2 I've notes done for, started Con this week and Crim next week so I'll be in the same boat of a rough grind too!

    Is it not circa 40 days till they ? :O


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Breacnua wrote: »
    Is it not circa 40 days till they ? :O

    Damn, here I was trying to be positive! That's loads of time don't worry! I'm beginning in 31 days for tort which is first and then doing 3 in a row to end the week out in misery! You could well be 40 days as the next week they're on Wednesday , Thursday, Friday which is 40 days away exactly!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Breacnua


    Damn, here I was trying to be positive! That's loads of time don't worry! I'm beginning in 31 days for tort which is first and then doing 3 in a row to end the week out in misery! You could well be 40 days as the next week they're on Wednesday , Thursday, Friday which is 40 days away exactly!

    Time to get the head down.
    I was living in a bubble :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Breacnua wrote: »
    Time to get the head down.
    I was living in a bubble :(

    I'm sure your head's been down more than you give yourself credit for. How many do you have and when?


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Gomzu wrote: »
    In my experience definitely! In the October 2018 sitting the question I did on natural law probably had at most 5 cases, with a lot of my personal opinion throw in!! I think the issue with constitutional is that you have to really actually understand the judgements, which can be very different to a lot of the other exams like tort where it is just rite learning (in my experience!). I think what’s really important in constitutional is to offer an opinion/ view on theory, cases etc, and that’s what I tried to do for my paper.

    Also, yes the Supreme Court book is by Ruadhán Mac Cormaic!
    scooby321 wrote: »
    Great, thanks very much!

    Alright the Supreme Court book is actually excellent. Read the chapter on Crotty there and the referenda that occurred around then and it was very explanatory and framed it in a way which was (dare I say it) quite interesting. Could be invaluable if one was to get a lovely question for the case notes that had something huge like Crotty or Norris or McGee as well as one of the more modern ones that will likely be in the notes in some other topic.

    Also, O'Mahony's in Limerick got the book to Tipp in under 20 hours which was a ridiculous and pleasant surprise !


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Bunt1989


    Can anyone tell me what the best legislative source to bring into the exam for EU would be?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Jimdtug1


    In the same boat, have 3 left and for the life of me can't get the motivation to start. My only cause for hope is that I've felt the exact same for the two sittings in which I've passed exams so maybe i just need the pressure to kick in.

    I think 2 full days of study per exam, studying 6-7 topics to a high level is enough time to get a reasonable level of knowledge to pass each subject? Critical to this method is smart studying of relevant examinable topics and their respective notes, cases and when to apply.
    Anybody agree/disagree?


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Bunt1989 wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me what the best legislative source to bring into the exam for EU would be?

    I got blackstones and it's very useful and navigable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Breacnua


    I'm sure your head's been down more than you give yourself credit for. How many do you have and when?

    contract
    criminal
    property


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Jimdtug1 wrote: »
    In the same boat, have 3 left and for the life of me can't get the motivation to start. My only cause for hope is that I've felt the exact same for the two sittings in which I've passed exams so maybe i just need the pressure to kick in.

    I think 2 full days of study per exam, studying 6-7 topics to a high level is enough time to get a reasonable level of knowledge to pass each subject? Critical to this method is smart studying of relevant examinable topics and their respective notes, cases and when to apply.
    Anybody agree/disagree?

    Smart studying gets you concise answers. Got all my scripts back today and that was very apparent. Completely lost as to what I was asked and answered 9 pages for one question and got a 9 in contract. Answered another concisely with 4 pages and got a 14, they really want you to show your understanding. Also Equity lady underlined every single case so that's relevant info too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Breacnua wrote: »
    contract
    criminal
    property

    You haven't got any of the (reputationally speaking) nasty 3 so you'll be fine!


  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Pyggg


    Smart studying gets you concise answers. Got all my scripts back today and that was very apparent. Completely lost as to what I was asked and answered 9 pages for one question and got a 9 in contract. Answered another concisely with 4 pages and got a 14, they really want you to show your understanding. Also Equity lady underlined every single case so that's relevant info too.
    Are you able to get back all your scripts or only those that you failed?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Pyggg wrote: »
    Are you able to get back all your scripts or only those that you failed?

    No need to have failed them, just email them your number and ask to get them. Address is fe1dataprivacy@lawsociety.ie and they got back to me in 2 weeks with scans of them all, very helpful going into the next set to know what was good and what was bad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭sapphire309


    The Oct 2018 examiners report is FINALLY up


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    The Oct 2018 examiners report is FINALLY up

    There's no way to view them online is there? You have to buy them and get them in the post right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 jamesob123


    Hey folks,

    Would any of ye be able to let me know what was on the EU paper in October?

    If you're stuck, can give you some samples on some things in return!

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    Jimdtug1 wrote: »
    In the same boat, have 3 left and for the life of me can't get the motivation to start. My only cause for hope is that I've felt the exact same for the two sittings in which I've passed exams so maybe i just need the pressure to kick in.

    I think 2 full days of study per exam, studying 6-7 topics to a high level is enough time to get a reasonable level of knowledge to pass each subject? Critical to this method is smart studying of relevant examinable topics and their respective notes, cases and when to apply.
    Anybody agree/disagree?
    .


    I have three left also. I am completely terrified. I feel like there is so little time left. I have notes done but they are extensive and I wont have time to whittle them down. I am thinking I will just read all I can on a topic repeatedly until it sinks in and hope that in a couple of weeks I can whittle the topic down to a page to study in the days leading to the exam.


    Unless anyone has a better idea!


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Leraf wrote: »
    .


    I have three left also. I am completely terrified. I feel like there is so little time left. I have notes done but they are extensive and I wont have time to whittle them down. I am thinking I will just read all I can on a topic repeatedly until it sinks in and hope that in a couple of weeks I can whittle the topic down to a page to study in the days leading to the exam.


    Unless anyone has a better idea!

    Everyone works different but personally when I finish a topics notes I leave a page blank at the end. Then I write the case names in red and one line in black describing what it's about so we'll say 5 per subtopic. Looking at tort here for example, for Trespass to person I have Assault - 7 lines 7 cases, Battery 7 lines and 7 cases and False Imprisonment 6 lines.

    Cover the black and go down and see if you can give a line what the case is for when you see the name. Once you can confidently, do the opposite, see if you can give the case name from the description. Once you can do that start building up associations so for assault be able to say your cases in a row. Once you can say your (for example) 7 assault cases in a row you know in the exam if you only remember 1 at least 3 or 4 more will follow just from association.

    Just a technique if you're stuck for time and trying to be clever with it and have volume! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    Hey everyone,

    Which topics should I cover for Eu and criminal ? And any predictions from the main colleges would be great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭holliek


    Struggling with the chapter on the family in constitutional. I kept putting it off and now the time has come... In particular can't grasp the non-marital protection and the fathers rights. There's so many cases and I'm trying to understand which are the important ones and their outcomes.

    Any help greatly appreciated!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Pyggg


    Would anyone have the Criminal Examiner Reports from October 2018 to send me? Can send you things from any other subject :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Smiley283


    I'm just curious to know- do many of you here use mind maps to memorise chapters/ essays?

    I could never memorize any other way! Im so jealous of people you can read/hear something and know it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭holliek


    Smiley283 wrote: »
    I'm just curious to know- do many of you here use mind maps to memorise chapters/ essays?

    I could never memorize any other way! Im so jealous of people you can read/hear something and know it!

    I'm the same. Diagrams all the way


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭LawGirl3434


    Pyggg wrote: »
    Would anyone have the Criminal Examiner Reports from October 2018 to send me? Can send you things from any other subject :)

    Hey! I have these! Would you have any sample answers for constitutional could swap for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭z6vm1dobfnca3x


    Does anyone have the criminal, equity and property past papers from Autumn 2018?

    I can provide up-to-date grids (excluding the above round of exams) in exchange!


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Townton


    Hi all, was hoping to get a bit of info if any of you could help. I have completed 7 of my 8 fe1's I am due to sit the last in March. Problem is that I have very recently got a job offer in the UK which is pretty attractive. I am basically wondering how long do I have to sit the last exam. Passed the first three last March. If I take the job I may get the opertunity to sit the exam in 18 to 24 months but I want to know incase things arise ect what is the maximum amount of time I have to sit the last one before the other 7 expire.


  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭user115


    Townton wrote: »
    Hi all, was hoping to get a bit of info if any of you could help. I have completed 7 of my 8 fe1's I am due to sit the last in March. Problem is that I have very recently got a job offer in the UK which is pretty attractive. I am basically wondering how long do I have to sit the last exam. Passed the first three last March. If I take the job I may get the opertunity to sit the exam in 18 to 24 months but I want to know incase things arise ect what is the maximum amount of time I have to sit the last one before the other 7 expire.

    As far as I'm aware you have 5 years running from when you get the first magic 3 so if you passed the first 3 March 2018 seems like you would have til March 2023. Fair play on the new job, sounds really interesting. I would take it and make sure and email Law Society enquiring how long they are valid for so you can point to that if any hassle in future


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  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭user115


    People who have sat Tort and got their exam script back what seems to get marks in tort? I've just started studying it and have so much to cover want to know what exactly they are looking for. What level of detail you included and what did you get marked for it. Reports have so little info for tort. I'm really struggling at the moment so would really appreciate it :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 kasper4


    Looking for a torts grid. Have recent grids for other subjects. Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    user115 wrote: »
    People who have sat Tort and got their exam script back what seems to get marks in tort? I've just started studying it and have so much to cover want to know what exactly they are looking for. What level of detail you included and what did you get marked for it. Reports have so little info for tort. I'm really struggling at the moment so would really appreciate it :)

    I would love info on this too, tort is terrifying and I can't stomach the idea of trying to learn 15-20 topics at 20 cases each!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Emtec


    I would love info on this too, tort is terrifying and I can't stomach the idea of trying to learn 15-20 topics at 20 cases each!

    I passed tort last year with about ten cases on the entire script. For some of them I didn't even have the name, I just called them 'the Steven Berkoff' case or 'the RTE case. It was my first exam and I thought it went awful'. I think I had 4 full days of study. 50% on the nose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Emtec wrote: »
    I passed tort last year with about ten cases on the entire script. For some of them I didn't even have the name, I just called them 'the Steven Berkoff' case or 'the RTE case. It was my first exam and I thought it went awful'. I think I had 4 full days of study. 50% on the nose.

    Wow, and did you really know your stuff theory wise in and out? They must have been 2 page answers? That sounds mad. By any chance were you answering questions on really specific topics like defamation and Occupiers liability? I just fear going near a really broad topics like Causation and remoteness as you couldn't bluff it with a couple cases alone. Thanks for the inspiration also, always good to know it's possible!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Amanda226


    Hi all first time sitting exams and was planning to sit four the whole time however only writing up third subject this week. Just wondering peoples thoughts on sitting first time three or four exams? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    Amanda226 wrote: »
    Hi all first time sitting exams and was planning to sit four the whole time however only writing up third subject this week. Just wondering peoples thoughts on sitting first time three or four exams? Thanks

    Do the four, while the logic of sitting 3 and getting 3 sounds good, I've too many friends who tried that and got 2 exams in the high 60s but then had a stinker be it for bad luck on their topics or just a bad day (maybe sleep deprivation) and got 45+ but not enough. If you have the 4 you know you have a buffer of one to get on the ladder. Just my 2 cents!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 FE1s2018


    What are people focusing on for Equity? Does anyone have a grid? I can swap for grids in other subjects. Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bigtophat13


    FE1s2018 wrote: »
    What are people focusing on for Equity? Does anyone have a grid? I can swap for grids in other subjects. Thanks.

    I can only offer somewhat of a warning, focus on what comes up a lot rather than what's due if you get me? Last sitting of equity which I did, everyone (or a lot - myself nearly included) got caught as she repeated Mareva (the only one I didnt do) for the first repeat in 17 sittings, did Estoppel and Undue Influence 2 years in a row with a funny spin etc. That being said Specific Performance is definitely a good shout for your sitting as is three certainties and quia timet / mandatory injunctions and perhaps constructive trusts. While I sound like I'm contradicting myself what I mean is have those to your best level and off the top of your head (kinda things you'll walk in, see and be chuffed) and have a wide knowledge of everything else.

    From seeing my last set of papers, having 30 cases for a question might get you 14 but 10 good relevant cases can still get you 12/13 so you're better off with 3 topics to the level of 10 than 1 to 30 cases is all I'll say!


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 starfishxxo


    Amanda226 wrote: »
    Hi all first time sitting exams and was planning to sit four the whole time however only writing up third subject this week. Just wondering peoples thoughts on sitting first time three or four exams? Thanks

    Definitely recommend persevering with the 4. While focusing on 3 might seem like the best allocation of your time at this point, just 1 bad paper and you'll be resitting all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 PuffleHuffLyra


    Is anyone willing to share a pdf of the 2018 October's examiner report for Constitutional?


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭holliek


    can anyone tell me why/how the Heaney test of proportionality has been inconsistently applied? Can't understand the manuals etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭sapphire309


    EU - does anybody have a summary on the 2014 White Paper on Merger Control? My manual makes no reference to it, and I know it came up in Spring 2017. Would really appreciate any insight anyone can offer


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 BemusedKettle


    Did inchoate offences come up last year in criminal does anybody know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 jamesob123


    Would anyone happen to have sample answers for the most recent company papers?

    I can give you grids/ samples/ manuals for EU, Equity & Tort in return.

    Thanks! <3


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