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Vegetarian2017

Company law /Constitution and Eu
Anyone got past exam papers handy for last few years for these topics.
I have property, criminal and contract notes covering all topics plus waiting on Constitutional slides from ucd lecture this week to be sent.

lisac223

Kyree Bumpy Shrimp wrote: »

I purchased it online but the Law Society posted it to my house!

I thought it was going be a downloadable file...

Hi could you please tell me where online you bought it from? Under the "order past papers online" section on the Law Society page it's not showing up? Thank you!

holliek

can anyone tell me what the punishment for each of the inchoate offences are or even which act has the answers? I can't find the answer and I've 2 manuals saying 2 different things so don't know which is right!

z6vm1dobfnca3x

lisac223 wrote: »

Hi could you please tell me where online you bought it from? Under the "order past papers online" section on the Law Society page it's not showing up? Thank you!

My bad... It was actually Spring 2018 that I purchased!

You could try calling the Law Society and ask them if they plan to make the Autumn 2018 report available.

LawGirl3434

bigtophat13 wrote: »

All this is correct. It's about being smart with your time and not stretching yourself too thin. What exams are you doing? You could know the book inside and out but you're only allowed answer what they ask, so going through the papers will let you know what they ask and while predictions are a silly dangerous game you do see what comes up a lot and the more you see you're able to answer those the more confident you get.

I've used the last 6 exams as my sample size / sample questions and that didn't fail me last set so I'd say going back to 2014/15 is about enough to avoid stressing too much and going back ages and ages.

Thanks so much both! I’m doing contract, criminal, tort and criminal. Had exams in constitutional and criminal for my diploma last week and thought they went quite well so hopefully a bit of a confidence boost. I find constitutional and contract heaviest - I quite like tort and criminal. I’m currently reading through past papers and examiners reports, then going to start learning/ practicing past questions this weekend I think.

Would you recommend this mix or learning and papers? Going to try to allocate time every at first (doing a 40hour week so ten hours each) but this may change depending on what I find tricky.

frankiejoepat

Would be great if someone could post what came up for constitutional and company in the autumn (18) sitting. I would be extremely, extremely grateful.

bigtophat13

LawGirl3434 wrote: »

Thanks so much both! I’m doing contract, criminal, tort and criminal. Had exams in constitutional and criminal for my diploma last week and thought they went quite well so hopefully a bit of a confidence boost. I find constitutional and contract heaviest - I quite like tort and criminal. I’m currently reading through past papers and examiners reports, then going to start learning/ practicing past questions this weekend I think.

Would you recommend this mix or learning and papers? Going to try to allocate time every at first (doing a 40hour week so ten hours each) but this may change depending on what I find tricky.

I have an overlap of three with you (criminal, tort and constitutional) and I'm yet to start constitutional or criminal so I can't offer too much advice on those. Contract is pure content and he mixes topics so I'm afraid there's not much you can leave out but there are a few certainties / ones he loves. Struggling with tort myself as its so large and his questions aren't explained in the report.

It's whatever works for you but I aim for notes and an understanding of either 1 big topic or 2 small a day. I didn't start really grinding case names til 2 weeks before or so when i understood everything. Mixing in questions to practice is a great idea and it would have helped me last time if I had time but I was preoccupied with just learning the stuff as I was short on prep time. Personally I prefer to do an entire subject first and be confident with it before moving onto the next as I have an irrational fear I'll go back to it in 2 weeks and have forgotten everything and it makes linking up related topics a little easier but to each their own. You seem to have an excellent idea of what works for you so try that to begin and then adjust as you see fit and see if you improve!

Just careful not to burn out, 40 hours a week sounds fine, I was doing 90 hours near the end last time due to how stupidly short I left it and I was losing hair - not worth it.

bigtophat13

frankiejoepat wrote: »

Would be great if someone could post what came up for constitutional and company in the autumn (18) sitting. I would be extremely, extremely grateful.

Company I sat it was:

- Dir Duties to others besides the company essay
- Duties of Receiver to the company problem
- Ostensible Authority and Turquands Case essay
- Personal Liability of dirs for the company - Bad books and lots of debt Problem
-S819 Essay
-SAP and Dividends Problem
-S 212 and Foss v Harbottle Essay
-Charges problem part a & b

lmsc

Hey everyone, has anyone got any tips for studying for a resit? I’m sitting Equity in March for the second time and I have a fairly good set of notes from October. Should I spend my time doing past exam questions or what would be the best approach? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

ArthurDayne

lmsc wrote: »

Hey everyone, has anyone got any tips for studying for a resit? I’m sitting Equity in March for the second time and I have a fairly good set of notes from October. Should I spend my time doing past exam questions or what would be the best approach? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

I passed Equity on 3rd attempt. I gave some of my thoughts in post #6380

lawless11

Hello there. Anyone would have any summarised/typed notes for Constitutional or Tort please ? Can exchange against grids or other things (passed 5). You'd save a full-time working soul.

frankiejoepat

bigtophat13 wrote: »

Company I sat it was:

- Dir Duties to others besides the company essay
- Duties of Receiver to the company problem
- Ostensible Authority and Turquands Case essay
- Personal Liability of dirs for the company - Bad books and lots of debt Problem
-S819 Essay
-SAP and Dividends Problem
-S 212 and Foss v Harbottle Essay
-Charges problem part a & b

Thanks so much bigtophat. Looks like an ok paper. Just two small things:
For Q4, that was a corporate personality question then or was it a question on reckless and fraulent trading?
For Q6, that was capital maintenance?

Thanks again!

LawGirl3434

bigtophat13 wrote: »

I have an overlap of three with you (criminal, tort and constitutional) and I'm yet to start constitutional or criminal so I can't offer too much advice on those. Contract is pure content and he mixes topics so I'm afraid there's not much you can leave out but there are a few certainties / ones he loves. Struggling with tort myself as its so large and his questions aren't explained in the report.

It's whatever works for you but I aim for notes and an understanding of either 1 big topic or 2 small a day. I didn't start really grinding case names til 2 weeks before or so when i understood everything. Mixing in questions to practice is a great idea and it would have helped me last time if I had time but I was preoccupied with just learning the stuff as I was short on prep time. Personally I prefer to do an entire subject first and be confident with it before moving onto the next as I have an irrational fear I'll go back to it in 2 weeks and have forgotten everything and it makes linking up related topics a little easier but to each their own. You seem to have an excellent idea of what works for you so try that to begin and then adjust as you see fit and see if you improve!

Just careful not to burn out, 40 hours a week sounds fine, I was doing 90 hours near the end last time due to how stupidly short I left it and I was losing hair - not worth it.

This was so so helpful - thank you so much! Agree very much on the burnout point also - although I feel those 90 hour weeks are sort of inevitable towards the end if you’re a stresser (which I am!)

bigtophat13

frankiejoepat wrote: »

Thanks so much bigtophat. Looks like an ok paper. Just two small things:
For Q4, that was a corporate personality question then or was it a question on reckless and fraulent trading?
For Q6, that was capital maintenance?

Thanks again!

No worries at all, I have the paper here so I'll have a look.

With Q4 it's the latter - the liquidator comes to you for help as the company is 15m in the hole. Part (a) notes how the books and records are in a state and there were dodgy cash payments off the books with no records. Basic invoices have not been kept and there is little to no financial documentation.

Q6 ..... Q6 gave me nighmares for weeks. I thought I blew it on this. I didn't do much on capital maintenance, almost nothing in fact but I had a little on dividends and a huge amount on directors that I couldn't use for Q1 (common law duties I had 50 cases learned and couldn't use them so I was determined to get them in somewhere) so the question is basically the parent company wants them to declare a distribution even though he knows they only have half what they want in distributable profits. I answered mine on the basis of distributions because he asked for that and referred to that part of the act, giving him a few dividends cases and then loads of directors cases to act in the best interest etc. just because I had the cases. It was a desperate effort and afterward I was sure I blew it because someone here told me that SAP was core to it on the basis they mention how the company adopted the 2014 act's optional provisions. Nevertheless I passed company with lots of room to spare, but that being said I had a couple answers that could have been 15s and this still might have been a 4/5 mark answer.

In any case I hope that's some help! From my predictions coming into the last one liquidation is a good shout this time round as is examinership as a wildcard.

bigtophat13

LawGirl3434 wrote: »

This was so so helpful - thank you so much! Agree very much on the burnout point also - although I feel those 90 hour weeks are sort of inevitable towards the end if you’re a stresser (which I am!)

Delighted to help I can relate don't worry, just make sure they're the grinding weeks so and not the learning ones as you'll only get frustrated and go through all manner of stages of grief coming up to them. And that's no help to you!

frankiejoepat

Sound out Bigtophat. Really appreciate the effort!!

Sounds like a kinda strange paper - no corp personality; no reform Q; no corp borrowings. All three are usually pretty much nailed on.

Frightened of leaving myself short but our of the last eight sittings, I would usually have 6 or 7 with October '17 being the only sitting where I would only have 4 and a half.

I have constitutional, company and equity this spring. Five passed, three to go.

Goodluck if you're still sitting them and thanks again.

LawGirl3434

bigtophat13 wrote: »

Delighted to help I can relate don't worry, just make sure they're the grinding weeks so and not the learning ones as you'll only get frustrated and go through all manner of stages of grief coming up to them. And that's no help to you!

I hear ya! I feel the next 2 weeks will be learning/ past papers and then the last 3 weeks will be the cramming cases style!

Vegetarian2017

General Question
has anyone ever took the approach of say highlighting the manual and only taking night before type notes ie. case names one fact and bullet points. so effectively u are mainly studying from Manual meaning rwading through it a few times well highlight parts to understand then move to your bullet points. instead of writing to try condense the chapter down to 6 or 7 pages to again condense to 1 or 2 pages of bullet points towards the end.

sls16

Hey guys,

I'm looking for an up to date EU grid if anyone has one? The one I have is only up until 2016.

Also, if anyone has any general advice on sitting the EU exam that would be great!

Bayb12

Vegetarian2017 wrote: »

General Question
has anyone ever took the approach of say highlighting the manual and only taking night before type notes ie. case names one fact and bullet points. so effectively u are mainly studying from Manual meaning rwading through it a few times well highlight parts to understand then move to your bullet points. instead of writing to try condense the chapter down to 6 or 7 pages to again condense to 1 or 2 pages of bullet points towards the end.

This is what I did basically. Covered all topics in manuals then took to papers/grids to see what was absolutely essential to go back over and what could be skimmed/bulleted. Worked for me, I was able to at least identify every topic in every exam and passed them all first attempt

Vegetarian2017

Bayb12 wrote:

This is what I did basically. Covered all topics in manuals then took to papers/grids to see what was absolutely essential to go back over and what could be skimmed/bulleted. Worked for me, I was able to at least identify every topic in every exam and passed them all first attempt

thanks, so you read/highlighted the manual and did not take condensed notes of examinable topics? then skimmed over and did bullet points of the main topics. I just don't want to go back in a fee weeks and feel I've to read a whole manual and my bullet notes being no use. ughhh yet condensing all chapters i am getting nowhere not to mention my handwriting is horrendous after lengthy periods of writing !!
any notetaking tips are appreciated. It really is a weak area for me.

Bayb12

Vegetarian2017 wrote: »

thanks, so you read/highlighted the manual and did not take condensed notes of examinable topics? then skimmed over and did bullet points of the main topics. I just don't want to go back in a fee weeks and feel I've to read a whole manual and my bullet notes being no use. ughhh yet condensing all chapters i am getting nowhere not to mention my handwriting is horrendous after lengthy periods of writing !!
any notetaking tips are appreciated. It really is a weak area for me.

Well obviously everyone is different but personally I found I was getting bogged down with making notes and not actually reading the materials. I could spend hours in an evening making notes and not get anywhere so I decided to just read all my manuals instead. I made small notes on the manuals as I read but mainly highlighted so I could go back over material.

Once I had covered my key topics I repeatedly tested myself by indetifying topics on the past papers and writing down whatever I could remember. That's just what worked for me, I found it more reassuring to know I was at least looking at each topic once than trying to have notes. It also helped me figure out which topics I just had a mental block with and couldn't grasp so if I could get away with leaving them out I did

Vegetarian2017

Bayb12 wrote:

Well obviously everyone is different but personally I found I was getting bogged down with making notes and not actually reading the materials. I could spend hours in an evening making notes and not get anywhere so I decided to just read all my manuals instead. I made small notes on the manuals as I read but mainly highlighted so I could go back over material.

Bayb12 wrote:

Once I had covered my key topics I repeatedly tested myself by indetifying topics on the past papers and writing down whatever I could remember. That's just what worked for me, I found it more reassuring to know I was at least looking at each topic once than trying to have notes. It also helped me figure out which topics I just had a mental block with and couldn't grasp so if I could get away with leaving them out I did

Thank you this is very helpful. whilst i have the magic 3 i had typed out notes that were doing the rounds. so i worked from them and squished say a chapter on 1 or 2 pages learn off. however wasn't too sure if id catch myself put doing same with the manuals. as in picking it up in 3 or 4 weeks times and thinking what the hell snall notes are useless/and almost a whole manual to read. knowing it is doable is great, thanks

bigtophat13

frankiejoepat wrote: »

Sound out Bigtophat. Really appreciate the effort!!

Sounds like a kinda strange paper - no corp personality; no reform Q; no corp borrowings. All three are usually pretty much nailed on.

Frightened of leaving myself short but our of the last eight sittings, I would usually have 6 or 7 with October '17 being the only sitting where I would only have 4 and a half.

I have constitutional, company and equity this spring. Five passed, three to go.

Goodluck if you're still sitting them and thanks again.

It was very odd, my lovely SLP question didn't come up, no reform, weird directors Q and I was fully expecting liquidation, got very lucky to be covered!

You should be fine but I was ok for the last huge amount of sittings too and nearly got caught. Better with 2 mediocre topics that'll get you 8/20 or 10/20 than 1 that will get you 15 but leaves you looking at a possible 0!

We only have constitutional in common, yet to start notetaking for that one or criminal, any advice on what the core areas are so I can leave some out?

bigtophat13

LawGirl3434 wrote: »

I hear ya! I feel the next 2 weeks will be learning/ past papers and then the last 3 weeks will be the cramming cases style!

Gonna be a fun month and a half for us !

lawlad101

Does anyone have grids for contract or constitutional? I have (slightly outdated) grids for EU and Criminal

iamanengine

Does agreement to agree come under Offer and Acceptance? I see it came up in Q1 Spring 2018 but I can't find any mention of it in the manual

marc24

Hi does anyone know what came up in EU in the last sitting (Oct 18) thanks

FE1s2018

Does anyone have the October 2018 papers for Equity, Property, Tort and Constitutional? Can swap materials from the other 4. Any general advice on those subjects would be great too.

Thanks!

z6vm1dobfnca3x

Could someone please send me a grid for property? I can send you back a slightly outdated equity grid!