Anthem

01-02-2019 05:00PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

God of War disagrees. No exact figures, but estimating around the $100 million mark (they said it cost more than a normal AAA game, and they're about $40-60 million on average), and made $131 million digital during its release month. Gamers are now demanding good stories to play, and couldn't care less about MP. The only MP game I play is CoD, and i still technically fly solo in that.

Yes, the figures won't be as good as the MT heavy games, but Sony Santa Monica now has a carte blanche with me, because I know they will produce something amazing. That to me is more important than sales figures, and I believe this will be the focus of a lot of studios going forward.

I reckon we're getting to a breaking point with MTs, and games will either have to massively reduce the cost of in game items (which should be cosmetic only). Do the likes of EA and Activision not realise that if everything was only 50% of what they currently cost, they would most likely sell more? I wouldn't have an issue with spending €2-3 on a new suit in CoD, but I'm not spending the equivalent of €10 on it. And I'm sure there are many, many others out there like me. Throwing €20 onto the PSN is not that big of a deal, if I can buy up to 10 outfits. But for 2 outfits, it's not worth it.

SP games are going to make a massive comeback, and The Witcher 3, God of War and AC Odyssey are proving this. I look forward to it, as historically, the games I've enjoyed the most are the games with brilliant stories (Legacy of Kain, God of War (I thought it was a brilliant story, no need for hidden meanings, just straight up revenge!), Bioshock, even Mortal Kombat has a story i've always been interested in.

And yes, how good you perceive a story is subjective, ie: lots of people thought the story/experience of Journey was amazing. It bored me and I actively turn people away from it.

Resident Evil 2 Remake already dominating in sales.

Quality Single Player titles are stronger than ever.

_CreeD_ · 01-02-2019 05:00PM

Venom wrote: »

CD Project Red is a tiny studio compared to the other players in the market yet had no MT's in the Witcher 3, offered tons of free DLC with it, had very reasonably priced expansions and not only managed to make one of the best games of all time but made a huge profits from it to boot. MT's are not about making enough money to fund development but just another way to squeeze every last cent from the customer.

Horizon Zero Dawn is another good example. Story based, SP, no MTs, one DLC that was a massive expansion.

The Phantom Pain · 01-02-2019 05:09PM

Venom wrote: »

The Ranger is a solid jack of all trades but master of none style unit and was also the starter mech in the last demo. I then picked the Storm after I levelled up a bit and found it to be ranged AOE class that I found really fun. Can't really comment on the other two as I never tried them but seeing as all the classes look viable with the correct mods it kinda boils down to personal choice.

Cheers.
I don't want a jack-of-all-trades type because I really want to play my role within a team.

Really looking forward to the demo!

Venom · 01-02-2019 05:21PM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Cheers.
I don't want a jack-of-all-trades type because I really want to play my role within a team.

Really looking forward to the demo!

The trick with Anthem seems to be getting a power with the primer ability in one slot and a then one with the detonator ability in the other slot, as unlike a lot of games the mech's abilities refresh pretty fast so can be used very frequently.

fixXxer · 01-02-2019 05:23PM

Colossus looks like my Tank class. Curious about this, but shoot and loots dont hold my attention for long, so I wonder will this be any different.

divide_by_zero · 01-02-2019 05:32PM

Don't know if this was mentioned anywhere in this thread but I thought this was an overall good review of the first demo weekend for Anthem.

https://www.businessinsider.com/hands-on-with-anthem-game-2019-1?r=US&IR=T

tuxy · 01-02-2019 06:40PM

Venom wrote: »

CD Project Red is a tiny studio compared to the other players in the market yet had no MT's in the Witcher 3, offered tons of free DLC with it, had very reasonably priced expansions and not only managed to make one of the best games of all time but made a huge profits from it to boot.

What they lose out on in MT they can make up for by not paying staff for overtime and just generally having horrible work conditions:)

https://www.gamezone.com/news/cd-projekt-red-developers-speak-up-on-the-realities-of-working-on-witcher-3-and-cyberpunk-2077-3461430/

gizmo · 01-02-2019 06:46PM

I've heard really good things about God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn. It was pretty cool that Insomniac were giving away free suits with that Spider-Man game too.

What console do I need to buy to play them on again?

Nody · 01-02-2019 07:15PM

Well the end game at launch for Anthem is now out... A whopping 3 dungeons or strongholds as they are called (one already in the demo), 3 random quests a day for each factions to go kill stuff and of course random world events...

Better get used loving those strongholds people because that's the only endgame at launch...

Dcully · 01-02-2019 07:39PM

The thing the strikes me more than anything is weapons are practically pointless as they do nothing but tickle enemies while the player waits for skill cooldowns.
It makes it all a bit **** to me.

nix · 01-02-2019 08:16PM

Dcully wrote: »

The thing the strikes me more than anything is weapons are practically pointless as they do nothing but tickle enemies while the player waits for skill cooldowns.
It makes it all a bit **** to me.

Don't worry, you can buy a box of armor piercing rounds for only $5!!

Venom · 01-02-2019 08:21PM

Dcully wrote: »

The thing the strikes me more than anything is weapons are practically pointless as they do nothing but tickle enemies while the player waits for skill cooldowns.
It makes it all a bit **** to me.

Yeah, weapon damage needs a serious buff as even with level 19 blues the damage off them is pretty weak sauce.

Lone Stone · 01-02-2019 08:21PM

is the open the demo on now ?

Revoker88 · 01-02-2019 08:53PM

Lone Stone wrote: »

is the open the demo on now ?

Yup

_CreeD_ · 01-02-2019 08:53PM

Venom wrote: »

Yeah, weapon damage needs a serious buff as even with level 19 blues the damage off them is pretty weak sauce.

I'm guessing this is a deliberate design decision. They want multiplayer engagement (since it's more likely to draw in friends of core players and drive cosmetic sales), and the Prime/Detonation mechanic plays into that - play in a group, sync your specials and feel like a god....pew pew solo and watch paint dry. I doubt it will last. Loot shooters are massive single player draws also and they will eventually have to cater for that.

dreamers75 · 01-02-2019 11:46PM

Dcully wrote: »

The thing the strikes me more than anything is weapons are practically pointless as they do nothing but tickle enemies while the player waits for skill cooldowns.
It makes it all a bit **** to me.

using the collouss with the mini cannon got a level 19 rare one.

it ****s **** up but bigger **** require team work, I think I and you and are missing that part. I actually think everyone is missing that.

Online 2 go for the big guy and one deals with the ADDs until the ADDs become stronger then all 3 deal with the ADDS and when clear focus on the big guy.

I can see how this game is supposed to be played but unless I online with others i know its not gonna happen.

but this is an alpha.beta,demo.... the above is not hard to figure out.....

Revoker88 · 02-02-2019 12:11AM

Its pretty heavy on the GPU on PC,everything at medium on a GTX 1080 @1440p to get somewhat close to 60fps average.

Runs smooth enough even with the drops though.

Cant help but feel theres something not quite right with the controls. Like some sort of acceleration or smoothing going on.

I agree with those earlier that said the guns feels a bit weak against enemies. I wonder does enemy toughness scale with squad size. Would make more sense then.

So far,not bad,ill play a bit over the weekend and see how i feel about it then.

awec · 02-02-2019 01:28AM

It's Destiny.

nix · 02-02-2019 01:50AM

awec wrote: »

It's Destiny.

NO!

It's Warframe!

:pac:

awec · 02-02-2019 01:58AM

nix wrote: »

NO!

It's Warframe!

:pac:

Never played that, but everything about this just reminds me of Destiny.

Even the missions are Destiny. Go to this point, kill some enemies. Go to the next point, perform some action on some obscure object that starts to glow. Defend this objective for a minute. Go to the next point. SOme weird boss-type enemy that your wee ghost-like voice-in-your-head friend doesn't understand.

"The Dominion" would fit in perfectly in Destiny.

It's just Destiny with flying.

nix · 02-02-2019 02:23AM

awec wrote: »

Never played that, but everything about this just reminds me of Destiny.

Even the missions are Destiny. Go to this point, kill some enemies. Go to the next point, perform some action on some obscure object that starts to glow. Defend this objective for a minute. Go to the next point. SOme weird boss-type enemy that your wee ghost-like voice-in-your-head friend doesn't understand.

"The Dominion" would fit in perfectly in Destiny.

It's just Destiny with flying.

I was only joking, the games are all of the same pretty much, Destiny took a lot from Warframe and Anthem is pretty much a mix of both games. Though i do think Warframe resembles Anthem more as it has flying and is also third person and you can also change into different suites.

KilOit · 02-02-2019 02:46AM

Like it a lot so far. need good squads to do well. server crashing during missions is very frustrating, hope it's not the case in the full game, you lose all progress

Revoker88 · 02-02-2019 03:17AM

Anyone think its Vanquish?

Enjoying it so far. Ill leave it at that for now

Lone Stone · 02-02-2019 02:11PM

it feels very meh to me, thats my review score a meh.
The city you are in it's terrible like what are they thinking it sounds like they got audio for the city from some free soundclips website i use to use in college, and the animation loops are a bit odd, mostly because most of them are people in deep conversation and yet they say nothing also it's like a bald person convention.

The gun play while it is enjoyable it has zero oomph to it like so i was watching them shoot the gun's and they no recoil they are held perfectly still while they shoot and the audio for them is fairly flat. All that can be fixed but yea didnt grab me at all. Even the world outside the city felt barren going to be a pass from me.

TitianGerm · 02-02-2019 02:18PM

Lone Stone wrote: »

it feels very meh to me, thats my review score a meh.
The city you are in it's terrible like what are they thinking it sounds like they got audio for the city from some free soundclips website i use to use in college, and the animation loops are a bit odd, mostly because most of them are people in deep conversation and yet they say nothing also it's like a bald person convention.

The gun play while it is enjoyable it has zero oomph to it like so i was watching them shoot the gun's and they no recoil they are held perfectly still while they shoot and the audio for them is fairly flat. All that can be fixed but yea didnt grab me at all. Even the world outside the city felt barren going to be a pass from me.

But they are in big armored suits that can fly and fire lasers and gernades. If they can manage that I think the suit can counter recoil :P

brianregan09 · 02-02-2019 03:38PM

If the demo has showed me anything it's that a good Iron Man game would definitely be possible

The Phantom Pain · 02-02-2019 06:24PM

Apparently you have to have an EA account to access their online. Wasn't aware I had one but probably because I created it so long ago. It seems to have given me this default one and telling me my old password is too weak? Why doesn't it just ask you to enter in your EA account details?

ETA: never mind. It is the same account. I didn't recognise the online ID as it looked like one generate automatically rather than one I created myself. They must have updated their password requirements hence the demand for me to change my password.

Temptamperu · 02-02-2019 06:39PM

Its just like warframe and destiney. Zero fun, Seven crash to desktop.

The Phantom Pain · 02-02-2019 07:44PM

Instant thoughts:

- What's up with all the weird loading between areas???

- Maybe it's because it's been a while since I've played with third person controls but shooting feels just a tad off but again, could be me who needs to get used to it.

gimli2112 · 03-02-2019 12:02PM

it's nowhere near as polished as Destiny on console at least, feels very clunky by comparison. I like looter shooters but there's too much on the go at moment for me to get involved at launch.

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