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"Irish" tourists dump rubbish on NZ beach, threaten locals

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  • #202
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,587 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Gravelly wrote: »
    The problem with a lot of these arts course is that it seems to cause an infection of socialism that lasts for life.


    it soon fades when they start work and realise how much tax they have to pay.


  • #203
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Gravelly wrote: »
    I've a nephew that did an arts degree in Cork and he reckoned the canteen at lunchtime was like a meeting of the communist party.
    I did an arts degree in Cork and I used to be an insufferable right-on gowl (although I never embraced communism and even I would have found the current "sjw" crowd too much) but I've since seen reality - there is hope! :D


  • #204
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Gravelly wrote: »
    The problem with a lot of these arts course is that it seems to cause an infection of socialism that lasts for life.
    Probably just the shower who won't get a job.


  • #205
    Gravelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    it soon fades when they start work and realise how much tax they have to pay.

    Unless they land a cushy number in RTE or a quango.


  • #206
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I know an elderly man who told 'members of the travelling community' not to be littering by the river here. As a result he was beaten senseless.

    Sorry for my racist traveller bashing.


  • #207
    onrail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭onrail


    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190605


    Auckland Mayor: "They're worse than Pigs and I'd like to see them out of our country"

    Well said - Fair play to the man


  • #208
    Captain Red Beard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Captain Red Beard


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Because they are as arrogant as they are entitled

    Being serious for a minute, travellers ( like some other cultures) are an "honour" culture
    ...

    They are a people for whom values of the enlightenment are completely alien, a savage people, much like pirates of centuries ago, everything must be on their terms, they absolutely will not adhere to rules society or government mean to enforce, that is their nature and way, they have absolutely no interest in conforming to the norms in either Ireland or New Zealand, if they end up in prison because of it, that's just how life is which is a huge tragedy for everyone

    Aharr, what be this talk?
    Tis offence I be taking...


  • #209
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    supermouse wrote: »
    Unfortunately I was on the same flight as them to NZ and got to witness their behavior first hand for 12 hours. They were disgustingly rude to the staff, made one airhostess cry, kept changing seats (the group was spread around the aircraft) making those in seats either side of them move on a regular basis. When the lights went off for the middle section of the flight the girl in the unicorn dressing-gown went through the galley with a fine tooth comb and a torch on her phone pocketing everything she possibly could .... then returning when she emptied the dressing gown into her bag. She continued this through the entire flight, taking whatever she could and throwing everything she didn't want on the ground.
    Some passengers even asked to be moved away from them but with a full flight nothing could be done so not many people slept as you could imagine...
    They then proceeded to have a massive fight, the big guy let his baby cry for a good hour while he watched a film and when the mother came to get the child he abused her to high heaven.
    I am not one bit surprised at their behaviour here. They should be deported.
    This kinda thing is what makes that "working class heroes" reverse snobbery particularly odious.

    What kind of person would say "you're just racist" (travellers are white) to people for simply talking about the likes of the above.


  • #210
    NasserShammaz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 886 ✭✭✭NasserShammaz


    onrail wrote: »
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190605


    Auckland Mayor: "They're worse than Pigs and I'd like to see them out of our country"

    Well said - Fair play to the man

    How dare he thats an insult to pigs, cockroaches yes but pigs are ok. Lets hope their having chips for dinner


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  • #211
    CosmicJay
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭CosmicJay


    Paa Connors stole my mint 6 speed Raleigh back in 2008.

    I want my bike back Paa. Paa give me back my bike.


  • #212
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    CosmicJay wrote: »
    Paa Connors stole my mint 6 speed Raleigh back in 2008.

    I want my bike back Paa. Paa give me back my bike.

    True Detective: Season 4, starring Brendan Gleeson and Colm Meaney.


  • #213
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Zoey Rancid Zucchini wrote: »
    This kinda thing is what makes that "working class heroes" reverse snobbery particularly odious.

    What kind of person would say "you're just racist" (travellers are white) to people for simply talking about the likes of the above.

    You don’t really believe that crap you quoted do you?

    Your childish insults do you no favours btw. Shame on you.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #214
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,587 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Working class heroes wrote: »

    You don’t really believe that crap you quoted do you?

    Your childish insults do you no favours btw. Shame on you.


    Other passengers on the same flight have been quoted in the press and said pretty much the same as what was posted here so there is good reason to believe it.


  • #215
    Gravelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Working class heroes wrote: »

    Shame on you.

    I hate to repeat myself, but:

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  • #216
    jay0109
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    On Liveline now


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  • #217
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,081 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Now LOIVE on Lahvlahn!


  • #218
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Other passengers on the same flight have been quoted in the press and said pretty much the same as what was posted here so there is good reason to believe it.

    Fair enough so. I just find it hard to believe a “big fight” broke out on a flight and it wasn’t diverted to the nearest airport to have them checked off.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #219
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,203 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    They're Irish again here ....

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190787





    Granny Hearld is fair milking them.


  • #220
    Markcheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Irish Guitarist wrote: »
    I know an elderly man who told 'members of the travelling community' not to be littering by the river here. As a result he was beaten senseless.

    Sorry for my racist traveller bashing.

    Honestly, if you don't want to be viewed as a racist, replace the word traveler with scumbag.. I dont think you be called out for scumbagist,
    And scumbags come from all races and creeds..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #221
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,587 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Honestly, if you don't want to be viewed as a racist, replace the word traveler with scumbag.. I dont think you be called out for scumbagist,
    And scumbags come from all races and creeds..


    If they are travelers are people not allowed to mention that?


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  • #222
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Honestly, if you don't want to be viewed as a racist, replace the word traveler with scumbag.. I dont think you be called out for scumbagist,
    And scumbags come from all races and creeds..

    Good post.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #223
    Kevin Finnerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Kevin Finnerty


    onrail wrote: »
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190605


    Auckland Mayor: "They're worse than Pigs and I'd like to see them out of our country"

    Well said - Fair play to the man

    Have we anyone in the country who could stand up and say such a thing without being flogged?


  • #224
    Gravelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Kevin Finnerty wrote: »
    Have we anyone in the country who could stand up and say such a thing without being flogged?

    Considering the pearl-clutching and general hysteria when Casey dared say he thought they should be treated the same as everyone else, I'd say we'll be waiting a while before someone calls them out that honestly.


  • #225
    CathalDublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    They're Irish again here ....

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190787





    Granny Hearld is fair milking them.

    They can't make up their minds if they're Irish or English
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  • #226
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Probably ethnic Irish travellers in England .


  • #227
    Gravelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Probably ethnic Irish travellers in England .

    They don't want to be ethnic Irish though, they want to be ethnic travellers, so feck claiming them as ours.


  • #228
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Working class heroes wrote: »


    You don’t really believe that crap you quoted do you?

    Your childish insults do you no favours btw. Shame on you.

    Karl Marx would say that the travellers are lumpen proletariat not working class. In any case you probably aren’t working class.


  • #229
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    It’s funny isn’t it. Here criticism of travellers is racist even though they are clearly the same ethnic group as us. In NZ the actions of travellers is good for some paddy bashing. We literally can’t win.


  • #230
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Kevin Finnerty wrote: »
    Have we anyone in the country who could stand up and say such a thing without being flogged?
    Kiwis don't tolerate sh1te from visitors to their country. They're very direct and to the point.

    Not a breed to be messed with. Much tougher than Aussies in my experience.


  • #231
    mrblack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭mrblack


    Somebody should advise them to apply for Asylum over there as a persecuted minority and get permanent residents!


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  • #232
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Working class heroes wrote: »


    You don’t really believe that crap you quoted do you?

    Your childish insults do you no favours btw. Shame on you.
    Unlike your constant insults towards people who aren't born into the glorious working class.
    Why is the plane story so unbelievable? oh yeah cus it doesn't suit.

    Another in denial.

    There are disproprtionate levels of crime in the traveller community. It's not racist to acknowledge this in relation to fellow whites. Seriously, don't know how it's to you or anyone's benefit to deny reality or pretend words on the internet is worse.


  • #233
    heffo500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭heffo500


    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/tourists-served-deportation-notices-immigration-new-zealand-after-incident-hamilton-burger-king?variant=tb_v_2


  • #234
    Gravelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    heffo500 wrote: »
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/tourists-served-deportation-notices-immigration-new-zealand-after-incident-hamilton-burger-king?variant=tb_v_2

    Deported just like that.

    And we can't even deport terrorists.


  • #235
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    Karl Marx would say that the travellers are lumpen proletariat not working class. In any case you probably aren’t working class.

    Would he? Ok so, if you say so.

    Never said I was/wasn't working class.
    If you want to know, just ask.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #236
    pah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭pah


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    If you want to know, just ask.


    Nobody cares


  • #237
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Marx, whatever you think of his manifesto, wouldn't care for them at all. As a simple read of this would indicate.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat


  • #238
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Zoey Rancid Zucchini wrote: »
    Unlike your constant insults towards people who aren't born into the glorious working class.
    Why is the plane story so unbelievable? oh yeah cus it doesn't suit.

    Another in denial.

    There are disproprtionate levels of crime in the traveller community. It's not racist to acknowledge this in relation to fellow whites. Seriously, don't know how it's to you or anyone's benefit to deny reality or pretend words on the internet is worse.

    You are assuming I’m working class? I’ve never said either way. Don’t let my handle here fool you.
    I’ve already stated why I think the plane story is unbelievable. If it turns out I’m wrong I’m big enough to hold my hands up. No denial here.

    Yes I agree there are disproportionate levels of crime in the Traveler community and it’s not racist to assume this. It’s a fair comment.
    But it goes far beyond that around here and Tbh I haven’t the energy to go into the detail of why I think that because it’s been done to death.

    Maybe I went a bit over the top calling people racist, but I genuinely believe there are distinct racist tendencies creeping into society and it’s very evident here.
    I’ve stated on boards before I have more a reason to bear a grudge against Travelers, but I’m determined not to let one (serious) incident cloud my judgement. Maybe I’m too soft, I don’t know.

    Anyway apologies again for the name calling, probably best if I don’t post here again.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #239
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,587 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Deported just like that.

    And we can't even deport terrorists.


    well no, they haven't been deported yet. They have been told they will be deported but they have 28 days to appeal so they could stay in the country for another 28 days if they wanted to.


  • #240
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    Would he? Ok so, if you say so.

    It’s not really on my say so.
    Never said I was/wasn't working class.
    If you want to know, just ask.

    I don’t really care. Most of us are working class, anyways.


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  • #241
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    So eastern European people in Ireland can never experience racism then?

    Haaaaaaa.


    Racism is duscrimination based on race. Colour is one of the most visible indicators of race. But accent is another widely used indicator.
    Accent is an indicator on nationality, not race. What you are talking about is xenophobia.


  • #242
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    pah wrote: »
    Nobody cares

    Ah don’t be lik that. It’s not nice.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #243
    Gravelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    You are assuming I’m working class? I’ve never said either way. Don’t let my handle here fool you.
    I’ve already stated why I think the plane story is unbelievable. If it turns out I’m wrong I’m big enough to hold my hands up. No denial here.

    Yes I agree there are disproportionate levels of crime in the Traveler community and it’s not racist to assume this. It’s a fair comment.
    But it goes far beyond that around here and Tbh I haven’t the energy to go into the detail of why I think that because it’s been done to death.

    Maybe I went a bit over the top calling people racist, but I genuinely believe there are distinct racist tendencies creeping into society and it’s very evident here.
    I’ve stated on boards before I have more a reason to bear a grudge against Travelers, but I’m determined not to let one (serious) incident cloud my judgement. Maybe I’m too soft, I don’t know.

    Anyway apologies again for the name calling, probably best if I don’t post here again.

    Fair play to you on that post, you're a better poster than I had you down as. We can all disagree without name-calling.


  • #244
    DellyBelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    An Claidheamh wrote: »
    I hear the travellers in New Zealand have a rugby team - the All Knacks

    That is brilliant...doff of the hat to you sir...


  • #245
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    The surname is Curnow.

    These are Romanichal English gypsy men.

    Not the Irish variety.


  • #246
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,587 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    The surname is Curnow.

    These are Romanichal English gypsy men.

    Not the Irish variety.




    So nothing to do with us then. Thank god for that.


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  • #247
    ArrBee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    Myah Mushy Tequila wrote: »
    NZ is being hailed hero's for their no tolerance approach but they have lots to improve on in their own country too . I lived there and have strong connections still back there and Auckland is one of the most racist cities in the world. I worked with CYF and I have witnessed some horrendous things and the police didn't always do what they could . NZ has one of the highest rates of child abuse in the developed world. NZ also has of the worst rates of child death by maltreatment within the family unit.


    True, true.


  • #248
    Mrs OBumble
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    The surname is Curnow.

    These are Romanichal English gypsy men.

    Not the Irish variety.

    Nah, that's the name of the woman who took the first video.


  • #249
    ArrBee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    The surname is Curnow.

    These are Romanichal English gypsy men.

    Not the Irish variety.


    I think that was the lady who approached them at the beach, no?


  • #250
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,587 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    The surname is Curnow.

    These are Romanichal English gypsy men.

    Not the Irish variety.
    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    So nothing to do with us then. Thank god for that.
    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Nah, that's the name of the woman who took the first video.
    ArrBee wrote: »
    I think that was the lady who approached them at the beach, no?


    So much for that. False hope


  • #251
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Sorry my mistake.


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