After Hours Presidential Election Poll

Danzy · 26-10-2018 7:10pm

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Mod note: Idbatterim, don't post in this thread again,

Buford T. Justice

I'm used to ya in the Farming forum and come here and find ya clearing up the high plains of cowboys.

Danzy · 26-10-2018 7:11pm

smokingman wrote: »

If Casey wins then we're truly living in Trumps Ireland...

Fantastically funny.

Silentcorner · 26-10-2018 7:11pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Any chance you could elaborate?

Sheeple was the old word...it was a bit classier too I think, Trump is the go to insult these days, usually uttered by people who haven't the foggiest what is happening in the States but believe they do because they consume bucketloads of media...like, well, sheep!

RandomName2 · 26-10-2018 7:14pm

ESMITH29 wrote: »

Right so, I'm off on a half day today then and there's not a thing can be done about it, as I'm the boss up in this bitch now.

declan2693 wrote: »

Do you live in a fantasy world?

CruelCoin wrote: »

What world do you live on?

Was the sarcasm really that difficult to read?

pconn062 · 26-10-2018 7:14pm

3 votes for MDH from myself, my wife and mother. Practically everyone I know has said they are voting the same.

AnneFrank · 26-10-2018 7:15pm

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

One statement about travellers and suddenly he's a No1 vote. Hilarious.

Brain dead dregs of society

Fann Linn · 26-10-2018 7:15pm

Birds of a feather, flock......

Bonniedog · 26-10-2018 7:20pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Exit polls have been very reliable in the past here, even on contentious issues.

No reason to expect different here .

One thing to note was that there was no sign of desperation from the MDH campaign in the last few days, nor have odds moved today I think?

MDH won't be defenestrated from the early signs I'm seeing.

MDH is still safe. Real interest is in second place as even a Casey vote of region of 20% is not going to take it to a second count, given that other four would probably be on only slightly more than that combined.

Turnout is not much of a clue. Normally there is regional factor where the "native son" will clean up in their home patch. Only slight hint of that is higher than average turnout in Duffy's home patch up to tea time. None of others including MDH and Casey are bringing huge numbers out in Galway or Donegal.

No Dub and if earlier trend of higher turnout in middle class areas (although that is normally the case anyway) continues it could mean big vote for Higgins in the city. OR!!!! Intriguingly, the harassed middle delivering a message via Casey!

All looks bad for Shinners.

Coillte_Bhoy · 26-10-2018 7:20pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Has anyone noticed the news is so 'bored' with the presidential election-they're reporting on everything else?

It's like nobody's even interested. Hard for the electorate to be interested if the media aren't.

They cant talk about it today apart from reporting turnout etc

RabbleRouser2k · 26-10-2018 7:21pm

Silentcorner wrote: »

Ya they didn't even bother with many polls in this election either, what gives?

Yeah, I've just found that even reporting on turnout was like 'meh'. So hence stupid stuff like 'Opera singing Donkey' on the RTE news...

dudara wrote: »

There’s a media moriatorum in place at the moment, they can’t talk about it. Not until the polls close I think.

If you’re referring to the overall election campaign, then I think it’s fair to say that it’s been a field of moderate to weak candidates at best. No wonder people aren’t interested.

Oh I know about the discussion of polling and so on, and who got what in terms of votes.
But I was more commenting on the coverage of the election and all that.
You'd usually see stuff like 'last minute campaigning' by candidates and all this.
But nope. Nada.

blinding · 26-10-2018 7:25pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

How many times have you voted, I thought you were a northern unionist?

Wrong again as usual . Number 1 ; Casey .

Sycamore Tree · 26-10-2018 7:28pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

Brain dead dregs of society

Someone didn't get Casey to come 2nd at 33/1 !!

26-10-2018 7:29pm

Harriet the Opera Donkey is adorable!

tayto lover · 26-10-2018 7:30pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

Brain dead dregs of society

Get back up to your attic you.

Atoms for Peace · 26-10-2018 7:38pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

Brain dead dregs of society

Casey supporters or travellers?

smokingman · 26-10-2018 7:40pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Any chance you could elaborate?

Let's see...a bored businessman with no knowledge of constitutional law riles up the hateful with stupid comments with the express purpose of becoming President...
Now where have I heard that before?
I think he probably said that just to get to 12% of the vote to get his money back from campaign expenses tbh without any real belief in it. Taxpayers money BTW. .

mammajamma · 26-10-2018 7:50pm

smokingman wrote: »

Let's see...a bored businessman with no knowledge of constitutional law riles up the hateful with stupid comments with the express purpose of becoming President...
Now where have I heard that before?
I think he probably said that just to get to 12% of the vote to get his money back from campaign expenses tbh without any real belief in it. Taxpayers money BTW. .

The hateful.

What would a ruling body have to do to create such "hate" in people? Or did the hateful people just materialise out of nowhere, conveniently and without cause?

DavidLyons_ · 26-10-2018 8:07pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

One statement about travellers and suddenly he's a No1 vote. Hilarious.

Brain dead dregs of society

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

This is deadly! All the right po-faced, sanctimonious, self-righteous, deluded cretins are losing their absolute sh1t!!

Love it!

DavidLyons_ · 26-10-2018 8:08pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

One statement about travellers and suddenly he's a No1 vote. Hilarious.

Brain dead dregs of society

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

This is deadly! All the right po-faced, sanctimonious, self-righteous, deluded cretins are losing their absolute sh1t!!

Love it!

Danzy · 26-10-2018 8:08pm

mammajamma wrote: »

The hateful.

What would a ruling body have to do to create such "hate" in people? Or did the hateful people just materialise out of nowhere, conveniently and without cause?

He'll say it was the Jooos.

dr.fuzzenstein · 26-10-2018 8:24pm

mammajamma wrote: »

The hateful.

What would a ruling body have to do to create such "hate" in people? Or did the hateful people just materialise out of nowhere, conveniently and without cause?

I think there is a lot of hateful whining in Europe these days. And a lot of right wing opportunists that are only too happy to exploit that mood for their own (not anyone else's) gain.
People are complaining how awful and sh*t everything is, but half of them are pissed off because they blame minorities that they don't have enough money for that latest and greatest iPhone or games console.
Combine that with a very concerted right wing push on social media, pushed by trolls and hate groups by identifying convenient scapegoats to steer the mindless masses and we are right back in 1930.
This all works by exploiting human greed, hate and stupidity. And now we see jowany people don't think further than that.
Populists tell lies that people want to hear and give easy answers that don't work.
And the people fall for this hateful drivel that shouldn't fool a five year old, because they think they will profit from it. Humans have learnt nothing over the last 100 years.

Danzy · 26-10-2018 8:26pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

And the people fall for this hateful drivel that shouldn't fool a five year old, because they think they will profit from it.

This attitude isn't doing any favour at all.

mammajamma · 26-10-2018 8:49pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I think there is a lot of hateful whining in Europe these days. And a lot of right wing opportunists that are only too happy to exploit that mood for their own (not anyone else's) gain.
People are complaining how awful and sh*t everything is, but half of them are pissed off because they blame minorities that they don't have enough money for that latest and greatest iPhone or games console.
Combine that with a very concerted right wing push on social media, pushed by trolls and hate groups by identifying convenient scapegoats to steer the mindless masses and we are right back in 1930.
This all works by exploiting human greed, hate and stupidity. And now we see jowany people don't think further than that.
Populists tell lies that people want to hear and give easy answers that don't work.
And the people fall for this hateful drivel that shouldn't fool a five year old, because they think they will profit from it. Humans have learnt nothing over the last 100 years.

I beg to differ. While there is always a manipulative element at work, this idea that the majority of people are pig-ignorant is nothing but unashamed condescension from a small group of people who live in a bubble (usually the internet).

People don't like globalisation. People like having a country. People don't like being told what they can and cant say and can and cant do, doubly so when it is contrary to common sense. People like to be around people like themselves, forget about idealism.

One of my personal zingers was the proclamation from varadkar that the population of Ireland is gong to increase by millions in some ridiculously short time span, as if it was some uncontrollable thing and not being directed at every level. People don't want that, and as the double whammy of increasing scarcity (job security, housing, hospital care etc) clashes against an unwanted population basically just moving in willy nilly....its not going to end well. It is surprisingly universal across the entire western world.

Where was the choice in any of this? No wonder people, everywhere, are getting more and more angry, the natural result of being forcefully pulled into a situation that is actively disliked and unwanted.

So when you say that people haven't learned anything in the last 100 years, you are correct for the wrong reasons. Suffocate the will of the people, and there will be an increasingly heavy price to pay.

blinding · 26-10-2018 8:51pm

mammajamma wrote: »

I beg to differ. While there is always a manipulative element at work, this idea that the majority of people are pig-ignorant is nothing but unashamed condescension from a small group of people who live in a bubble (usually the internet).

People don't like globalisation. People like having a country. People don't like being told what they can and cant say and can and cant do, doubly so when it is contrary to common sense. People like to be around people like themselves, forget about idealism.

One of my personal zingers was the proclamation from varadkar that the population of Ireland is gong to increase by millions in some ridiculously short time span, as if it was some uncontrollable thing and not being directed at every level. People don't want that, and as the double whammy of increasing scarcity (job security, housing, hospital care etc) clashes against an unwanted population basically just moving in willy nilly....its not going to end well. It is surprisingly universal across the entire western world.

Where was the choice in any of this? No wonder people, everywhere, are getting more and more angry, the natural result of being forcefully pulled into a situation that is actively disliked and unwanted.

So when you say that people haven't learned anything in the last 100 years, you are correct for the wrong reasons. Suffocate the will of the people, and there will be an increasingly heavy price to pay.

Excellent Post .

elperello · 26-10-2018 9:09pm

Tumbleweed over here.

Red C

MDH 58%
PC 21%

troyzer · 26-10-2018 9:11pm

elperello wrote: »

Tumbleweed over here.

Red C

MDH 58%
PC 21%

I'm frankly quite depressed he even got that much.

Tell me how · 26-10-2018 9:12pm

elperello wrote: »

Tumbleweed over here.

Red C

MDH 58%
PC 21%

Interesting that that Poll is close to what Michael D has polled since the very start. PC increased his figures but only took from the also rans, not from Michael.

Tell me how · 26-10-2018 9:17pm

mammajamma wrote: »

People don't like globalisation. People like having a country. People don't like being told what they can and cant say and can and cant do, doubly so when it is contrary to common sense. People like to be around people like themselves, forget about idealism.

Where did the 70 million Irish people living outside the country that Casey spoke about originate from.

It's a bit rich to say we don't like globalisation when we have spread our own wings so wide.

igCorcaigh · 26-10-2018 9:18pm

mammajamma wrote: »

I beg to differ. While there is always a manipulative element at work, this idea that the majority of people are pig-ignorant is nothing but unashamed condescension from a small group of people who live in a bubble (usually the internet).

People don't like globalisation. People like having a country. People don't like being told what they can and cant say and can and cant do, doubly so when it is contrary to common sense. People like to be around people like themselves, forget about idealism.

One of my personal zingers was the proclamation from varadkar that the population of Ireland is gong to increase by millions in some ridiculously short time span, as if it was some uncontrollable thing and not being directed at every level. People don't want that, and as the double whammy of increasing scarcity (job security, housing, hospital care etc) clashes against an unwanted population basically just moving in willy nilly....its not going to end well. It is surprisingly universal across the entire western world.

Where was the choice in any of this? No wonder people, everywhere, are getting more and more angry, the natural result of being forcefully pulled into a situation that is actively disliked and unwanted.

So when you say that people haven't learned anything in the last 100 years, you are correct for the wrong reasons. Suffocate the will of the people, and there will be an increasingly heavy price to pay.

As someone who is on the Left of the political spectrum, I can hear and understand a lot of this; good post MJ. This sentiment should not be dismissed, if we really want to avoid a repeat of the 1930s.

We really need to have an honest debate to bring people together.

elperello · 26-10-2018 9:19pm

It's only an exit poll so we will have to wait for the full results tomorrow.

Things are pretty dead here now there is a post mortem on the other thread.

suicide_circus · 26-10-2018 9:21pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I think there is a lot of hateful whining in Europe these days. And a lot of right wing opportunists that are only too happy to exploit that mood for their own (not anyone else's) gain.
People are complaining how awful and sh*t everything is, but half of them are pissed off because they blame minorities that they don't have enough money for that latest and greatest iPhone or games console.
Combine that with a very concerted right wing push on social media, pushed by trolls and hate groups by identifying convenient scapegoats to steer the mindless masses and we are right back in 1930.
This all works by exploiting human greed, hate and stupidity. And now we see jowany people don't think further than that.
Populists tell lies that people want to hear and give easy answers that don't work.
And the people fall for this hateful drivel that shouldn't fool a five year old, because they think they will profit from it. Humans have learnt nothing over the last 100 years.

I have Germanic blood so I can spot your self -loathing historic guilt at 50 paces. Don't try to tar us all with the same brush.

26-10-2018 9:46pm

elperello wrote: »

Things are pretty dead here now there is a post mortem on the other thread.

RIP

*Bows respectfully*

never_mind · 26-10-2018 10:54pm

Edited to save some broken hearts xoxo

smurgen · 26-10-2018 10:59pm

never_mind wrote: »

All I want to say is go F yourselves to the nazis who voted for PC!

Well he did get quiet a few votes i'm sure at least a 1 or 2 of them are actual nazis.

Tell me how · 26-10-2018 11:07pm

never_mind wrote:

All I want to say is go F yourselves to the nazis who voted for PC!

See, this just feeds in to the narrative that those against Casey are hysterical lefties.
He's not much of anything, but he's definitely not a Nazi.

Maybe 1:5 like the idea of him reaching out to 70M diaspora and ignored his traveller comments? (I'm not totally naive.)

Michael D walked it as expected. The 1:5 'majority' can have a party and celebrate whatever it is this means to them.

Bonniedog · 26-10-2018 11:09pm

never_mind wrote: »

All I want to say is go F yourselves to the nazis who voted for PC!

Nazis are more like the people the Shinners like to hang with in Gaza. You know, people who hate Jews, murder gays, stop girls going to university and women getting jobs other than menial ones.

Now, perhaps I missed all of that but does Casey support any of this?

He was rounded on by the other five cut and paste liberals because he had the audacity to suggest that travellers are not in fact some exotic ethnic group, but as Irish as any of the rest of us born here. Indeed, there was a time when if you suggested that travellers were anything other than Irish as the rest of us you would have been described as a racist and a Nazi.

Difficult to keep up with all of this. Of course that was back in the days before lefties made heroes of people who support the sexual mutilation of girls.

Today, 21% of those who voted said they've had enough of that nonsense, thank you very much, comrades.

Sycamore Tree · 26-10-2018 11:19pm

If PC is 2nd, I just won 660 quid from a 20 quid bet. I love the Irish electorate!!!

Sycamore Tree · 26-10-2018 11:34pm

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

First Preference Votes (Guess)
HIGGINS 46%
CASEY 25%
NIRIADA 13%
FREEMAN 6%
GALLAGHER 6%
DUFFY 4%

I got the order spot on.

never_mind · 26-10-2018 11:34pm

Tell me how wrote: »

See, this just feeds in to the narrative that those against Casey are hysterical lefties.
He's not much of anything, but he's definitely not a Nazi.

Maybe 1:5 like the idea of him reaching out to 70M diaspora and ignored his traveller comments? (I'm not totally naive.)

Michael D walked it as expected. The 1:5 'majority' can have a party and celebrate whatever it is this means to them.

Narrative? Quasi academic internet nazi. Lol

Tell me how · 26-10-2018 11:41pm

never_mind wrote:

Narrative? Quasi academic internet nazi. Lol

Never mind

26-10-2018 11:43pm

never_mind wrote: »

All I want to say is go F yourselves to the nazis who voted for PC!

Reported. What a stupid fcuking post.

never_mind · 26-10-2018 11:44pm

Kyla Strong GunpointMGS wrote: »

Reported. What a stupid fcuking post.

Not worth it lol

26-10-2018 11:46pm

never_mind wrote: »

TY xoxoxoxo

Also the irony of you generalising all Casey voters when all opposed to him cue the “he’s generalising travellers” argument :pac: you couldn’t make it up.

never_mind · 27-10-2018 12:03am

Kyla Strong GunpointMGS wrote: »

Also the irony of you generalising all Casey voters when all opposed to him cue the “he’s generalising travellers” argument :pac: you couldn’t make it up.

Irony

when someone votes primarily to punish a group of people =.........

AndrewJRenko · 27-10-2018 12:07am

mammajamma wrote: »

One of my personal zingers was the proclamation from varadkar that the population of Ireland is gong to increase by millions in some ridiculously short time span, as if it was some uncontrollable thing and not being directed at every level.

He didn't say that at all. Get your facts right please.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 27-10-2018 1:12am

Bonniedog wrote: »

He was rounded on by the other five cut and paste liberals because he had the audacity to suggest that travellers are not in fact some exotic ethnic group, but as Irish as any of the rest of us born here. Indeed, there was a time when if you suggested that travellers were anything other than Irish as the rest of us you would have been described as a racist and a Nazi.
.

There is no contradiction in believing Travellers are Irish and also believing they are an ethnic group.

Try_harder · 27-10-2018 1:17am

Kyla Strong GunpointMGS wrote: »

Reported. What a stupid fcuking post.

But he is being nonpc and telling it like it is- I thought Casey voters liked that?

Omackeral · 27-10-2018 2:15am

Try_harder wrote: »

But he is being nonpc and telling it like it is- I thought Casey voters liked that?

Nah he's just calling people who don't agree with him Nazis. Also, if he wanted to be like Peter Casey, he'd have stuck to his guns and stood over his posts, not edited them...

wiggle16 · 27-10-2018 2:50am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes you can. I voted multiple times on the Limerick one as did others on the Politics Cafe thread just by clearing my cache, which was the hard (but easy) way of doing it. Going into 'incognito' mode makes it even easier.

About as reliable an indicator as throwing cut grass into the breeze.

God that's sad.

DonJose · 27-10-2018 3:10am

Regarding the presidential election, if a person decided to vote for only one candidate and marked the box with an X, would this be a valid vote or does he/she need to mark with a 1.

After Hours Presidential Election Poll

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