After Hours Presidential Election Poll

tayto lover · 21-10-2018 9:17pm

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Hmm right. Not entirely sure you actually know what a generalisation is then to be honest.

Verbatim, it sounds out about as much of a generalisation as it could possibly be. They, being the aforementioned Travellers.
When challenged on it he even says 'well, I'm just saying, the general conception...' before trailing off on some thing about Travellers moving into an area in caravans.

Does he account for Travellers who have since settled, but still identify or have grown up as Travellers? Or those who live in permanent structures on site?

Seems to me to be trying to paint a picture of a generalised, scaremongery idea of a Traveller.

No I don't believe he's generalising at all. He's talking about the travellers who are not settled and who are transient. Why would settled travellers be camping on someone's land?

FrancieBrady · 21-10-2018 9:19pm

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Lol.

The match must have been awful if you were on “here” instead of watching it

TbL

I can multi task, contrary to generalisations about the male gender!

AndrewJRenko · 21-10-2018 10:08pm

tayto lover wrote: »

No I don't believe he's generalising at all. He's talking about the travellers who are not settled and who are transient.

That's pretty much the definition of 'generalising' that you've given there.

McMurphy · 21-10-2018 10:22pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

He said travellers are basically people who camp on other people's lands.

When the fact is that 74% are in permanent housing.

Does that mean they cease to be travellers, seeing as they're not likely to be travelling very far with a static abode?

tayto lover · 21-10-2018 10:50pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

That's pretty much the definition of 'generalising' that you've given there.

Ah so he's generalising about travellers who occupy someone else's land then. Good one.

Conservative · 21-10-2018 11:00pm

I'd personally pay out on some of the bets posted here to see him stick it to holier than thou lot in the media. I was a big supporter of Leo becoming Taoiseach but he's turned out to be the most disengenuous snake of the lot and probably my least favourite Taoiseach in my lifetime.

If anybody other than the creepy little incumbent finishes ahead of Casey I'll be amazed.

paw patrol · 21-10-2018 11:16pm

Conservative wrote: »

I'd personally pay out on some of the bets posted here to see him stick it to holier than thou lot in the media. I was a big supporter of Leo becoming Taoiseach but he's turned out to be the most disengenuous snake of the lot and probably my least favourite Taoiseach in my lifetime.

If anybody other than the creepy little incumbent finishes ahead of Casey I'll be amazed.

tbh I believed leo's working man gimmick
he ****ed me and the rest of us

I want them all to burn and take mickey martin in with them.

AndrewJRenko · 21-10-2018 11:39pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Ah so he's generalising about travellers who occupy someone else's land then. Good one.

Eh no, he's generalising about ALL travellers based on what some travellers may have done in the past - occupy someone else's land.

mieletech · 22-10-2018 9:55am

No 1 here for Peter along wit all family members..

dav3 · 22-10-2018 10:03am

I think it's very refreshing that so many people are going out of their way to tell us with their first post, that they're voting Casey no.1, along with every man and his dog.

He's guaranteed to get 90%+ of the first vote at this stage. I don't know why the other candidates are even bothering.

KERSPLAT! · 22-10-2018 10:06am

One statement about travellers and suddenly he's a No1 vote. Hilarious.

endacl · 22-10-2018 10:17am

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

One statement about travellers and suddenly he's a No1 vote. Hilarious.

Only of the people who think the president has power to do anything.

suicide_circus · 22-10-2018 10:20am

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

One statement about travellers and suddenly he's a No1 vote. Hilarious.

it's not what he said, it's more who he pissed off by saying it

KERSPLAT! · 22-10-2018 10:25am

suicide_circus wrote: »

it's not what he said, it's more who he pissed off by saying it

Even more hilarious.

I agree, for the most part, with what he said but I won't be voting for him based on a single statement knowing nothing more about him or his policies. Though as pointed out above, he can do feck all anyway.

suicide_circus · 22-10-2018 10:31am

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Even more hilarious.

I agree, for the most part, with what he said but I won't be voting for him based on a single statement knowing nothing more about him or his policies. Though as pointed out above, he can do feck all anyway.

that's the point though, it's a safe protest vote, a bit of political disobedience without the fallout of brexit or trump. people are happy to use the ceremonial presidency as an opportunity to piss off the Montrose lovies and the professional hypocrites who would simply die at the thought of a halting site next door to them

DavidLyons_ · 22-10-2018 10:33am

endacl wrote: »

Only of the people who think the president has power to do anything.

Nope. I’m giving Casey my No. 1 because not a single one of the other candidates has said anything that resonates with me at all.

I think most people understand that the role of President is largely ceremonial but the fact that Casey was polling at less than 2% before he actually stated some bone fide facts, only to be accused of being a racist by the out of touch media and several public figures, means that should he now poll well (hopefully over 20%) an very firm message will have been sent.

He’s made a valid point that chimes with huge swathes of the population and folk are happy to vote for him to send a message that they aren’t happy.

None of the others are saying anything worthwhile to persuade me to give them my vote.

KERSPLAT! · 22-10-2018 10:35am

suicide_circus wrote: »

that's the point though, it's a safe protest vote, a bit of political disobedience without the fallout of brexit or trump. people are happy to use the ceremonial presidency as an opportunity to piss off the Montrose lovies and the professional hypocrites who would simply die at the thought of a halting site next door to them

If that's the thought process, fair enough. I think you're giving far too much credit to said voters though

Kivaro · 22-10-2018 10:40am

The filthy fifty (from today's Independent):

The suspects are considered members of a notorious Traveller burglary gang based in the Fettercairn area of Tallaght, Dublin........
The Tallaght gang are suspected of mainly operating "during daylight hours" in afternoons and evenings when homeowners are at work. They are suspected of carrying out dozens of break-ins in recent months across the country.

Also included in the 'Filthy 50' list are a number of different sets of brothers, most of whom are part of the Traveller community.

This is not an anomaly, this is the norm in that community.
Peter Casey just highlighted the fact. He spoke the truth.

The Irish media and spineless Irish politicians wants us to disregard the reality. Voting for Peter Casey gives us an opportunity to express our 'displeasure' with their distortion of the reality, which many of us have to endure in our communities.

McMurphy · 22-10-2018 10:42am

dav3 wrote: »

I think it's very refreshing that so many people are going out of their way to tell us with their first post, that they're voting Casey no.1, along with every man and his dog.

He's guaranteed to get 90%+ of the first vote at this stage. I don't know why the other candidates are even bothering.

Only for Sinn Fein, that was the plan.

dav3 · 22-10-2018 10:54am

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

...means that should he now poll well (hopefully over 20%) an very firm message will have been sent.

Don't be so pessimistic. Look at the poll on here. What with boards.ie full of commie, pinko, leftist, liberal, sjws. The overall first preference vote for Casey should be almost 100%.

wexie · 22-10-2018 11:00am

Kivaro wrote: »

The filthy fifty (from today's Independent):

This is not an anomaly, this is the norm in that community.
Peter Casey just highlighted the fact. He spoke the truth.

The Irish media and spineless Irish politicians wants us to disregard the reality. Voting for Peter Casey gives us an opportunity to express our 'displeasure' with their distortion of the reality, which many of us have to endure in our communities.

From the same article :

Gardaí in Greystones, Co Wicklow, arrested a 14-year-old boy as he came out the window of a house wearing socks on his hands.
Officers are confident of arresting his older teenage brother, who is also a juvenile, and are also investigating the role of the boys' young mother, who is suspected of acting as the getaway driver and facilitator of the crimes.

But yes, keep telling us how this 'culture' is something that deserves protection and needs to be cherished :rolleyes:

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mother-acts-as-driver-for-teen-sons-in-burglaries-37443779.html

DavidLyons_ · 22-10-2018 11:00am

dav3 wrote: »

Don't be so pessimistic. Look at the poll on here. What with boards.ie full of commie, pinko, leftist, liberal, sjws. The overall first preference vote for Casey should be almost 100%.

I'm getting the nice warm fuzzy feeling that certain elements of society are getting worried that Casey is going to perform really well on Friday.

How will they cope when the cold realisation dawns that their views are the ones that are out of step?

VOTE PETER CASEY NO. 1.

KERSPLAT! · 22-10-2018 11:12am

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

I'm getting the nice warm fuzzy feeling that certain elements of society are getting worried that Casey is going to perform really well on Friday.

How will they cope when the cold realisation dawns that their views are the ones that are out of step?

VOTE PETER CASEY NO. 1.

Even if he was voted in, what would it change? What is there to worry about?

Again, I agree with most of what he said. Will I both for him based on that single statement, no I won't.

0cp71eyxkb94qf · 22-10-2018 11:17am

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tayto lover · 22-10-2018 11:22am

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Even if he was voted in, what would it change? What is there to worry about?

Again, I agree with most of what he said. Will I both for him based on that single statement, no I won't.

It would be some laugh.
What a kick up the hole that would be for the sheltered elite in Government and Montrose.
The people who "get up early in the morning to go to work" could laugh their way to their places of employment.

DavidLyons_ · 22-10-2018 11:22am

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Even if he was voted in, what would it change? What is there to worry about?

Again, I agree with most of what he said. Will I both for him based on that single statement, no I won't.

May I ask who you are voting for and why then?

Those of us voting for Casey (for the most part) are doing so as he's the only one, out of all the candidates, who has said anything worth receiving a vote for.

The role of president is indeed without power, but if these people want our very valuable votes they have to earn it by giving us a reason to vote for them. Casey has given me a reason to vote for him.

VOTE PETER CASEY NO. 1.

dav3 · 22-10-2018 11:28am

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

I'm getting the nice warm fuzzy feeling that certain elements of society are getting worried that Casey is going to perform really well on Friday.

How will they cope when the cold realisation dawns that their views are the ones that are out of step?

VOTE PETER CASEY NO. 1.

For someone showing such bravado, starting off with 'well if he at least gets 20%' is a bit lame.

Surely he's going to get 100% with every man, astroturfer, woman, child, astroturfer, cat, dog and astroturfer behind him.

You need to show a bit more optimism.

Kermit.de.frog · 22-10-2018 11:28am

This Casey guy is saying what everyone knows.

Unusual but could give him a big boost!

Faith+1 · 22-10-2018 11:30am

Wasn't even going to vote but Peter Casey has my support. He still won't win but fcuk it.

tayto lover · 22-10-2018 11:30am

dav3 wrote: »

For someone showing such bravado, starting off with 'well if he at least gets 20%' is a bit lame.

Surely he's going to get 100% with every man, astroturfer, woman, child, astroturfer, cat, dog and astroturfer behind him.

You need to show a bit more optimism.

One man, one vote. You can't have astroturfers voting 3 times.
You're still worried though and that's hilarious.

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