Christmas bonus for welfare recipients not only restored but increased

05-10-2018 11:03AM

sick to death of dole threads on here I’m happy the old people and disabled people & vulnerable will be getting it

PlaneSpeeking · 05-10-2018 11:10AM

Deleted User wrote: »

sick to death of dole threads on here I’m happy the old people and disabled people & vulnerable will be getting it

Try being sick to death of working all the hours God sends and getting screwed for it instead.

05-10-2018 11:10AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Try bring sick to death of working all the hours God sends and getting screwed for it instead.

Go on the dole then

PlaneSpeeking · 05-10-2018 11:11AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Go on the dole then

Ah would that I could but I have these pesky things called self respect and a work ethic. Rules me out.

super_furry · 05-10-2018 11:12AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Ah would that I could but I have these pesky things called self respect and a work ethic. Rules me out.

Well then the only thing to do in that case is to keep whinging on the internet.

ELM327 · 05-10-2018 11:13AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Try being sick to death of working all the hours God sends and getting screwed for it instead.

+1

Deleted User wrote: »

Go on the dole then

Some of us have personal responsibility enshrined in us from parents that worked too.

Or just personal pride. I was on the dole for approx 10 months in 2009 and it nearly killed me with depression.

Kivaro · 05-10-2018 11:13AM

cgcsb wrote: »

In Ireland the #1 priority is providing dole heads with a middle class lifestyle, it needs to change.

And that's the main issue.
The professional dole recipients not only want the financial "entitlements" from the welfare system, they also want/demand "social" housing too. They get more money than a lot of working people, and with the billions being spent on social housing, they will also get state-of-the-art brand new houses/apartments with new appliances/furniture/flooring etc.
They are becoming more middle class than the working middle class themselves with zero contribution.

It just ain't right. Vive la révolution!

Wanderer78 · 05-10-2018 11:13AM

ELM327 wrote: »

+1

Some of us have personal responsibility enshrined in us from parents that worked too.

Or just personal pride. I was on the dole for approx 10 months in 2009 and it nearly killed me with depression.

you should live with mental health issues indefinitely

ELM327 · 05-10-2018 11:17AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

you should live with mental health issues indefinitely

I do.
I have severe social anxiety, ASD (Asperger's), ODD, issues with emotional regulation but to name a few.
And the odd bout of depression thrown in.

super_furry · 05-10-2018 11:22AM

ELM327 wrote: »

I do.
I have severe social anxiety, ASD (Asperger's), ODD, issues with emotional regulation but to name a few.
And the odd bout of depression thrown in.

Well fair play to you for being able to hold down a job with all that happening. That's a serious achievement and you're doing really well, you should be proud.

But, not everyone is able to cope as well as you are.

Graces7 · 05-10-2018 11:22AM

Kivaro wrote: »

And that's the main issue.
The professional dole recipients not only want the financial "entitlements" from the welfare system, they also want/demand "social" housing too. They get more money than a lot of working people, and with the billions being spent on social housing, they will also get state-of-the-art brand new houses/apartments with new appliances/furniture/flooring etc.
They are becoming more middle class than the working middle class themselves with zero contribution.

It just ain't right. Vive la révolution!

you need to check on that not true

TallGlass · 05-10-2018 11:26AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

you should live with mental health issues indefinitely

Easy. If youve ever worked in a customer facing role, it comes with the job.

PlaneSpeeking · 05-10-2018 11:27AM

TallGlass wrote: »

Easy. If youve ever worked in a customer facing role, it comes with the job.

Students!

On my death certificate on cause of death it will be "Students" and everyone will get it!

TallGlass · 05-10-2018 11:29AM

Graces7 wrote: »

you need to check on that not true

It is. You get a grant for fitting out your apartment or house from the council. Friend of mine got it 3k I think it was. I know this cause I was with him when he got the stuff and I installed most of it and put down the floor!

eagle eye · 05-10-2018 11:31AM

ELM327 wrote:

Or just personal pride. I was on the dole for approx 10 months in 2009 and it nearly killed me with depression.

Hope you had the medical card to deal with that depression. Just another bonus of the Irish social welfare system!

Idbatterim · 05-10-2018 11:33AM

Why the insane obsession with buying off the parasites though? To FU*K with hiking jsa or jsb! As if that lot in most cases, would vote fg! I will laugh when the worker on 30,000k gets another e1.50 a week back in usc cut while the wasters get e5 plus another e200 off well deserved bonus = roughly e9 a week! a multiple of roughly six that the worker gets ! W!T!F if this happens this budget, any debate over fg being a pro worker or enterprise party are redundant and should be considered trolling!

ELM327 · 05-10-2018 11:34AM

eagle eye wrote: »

Hope you had the medical card to deal with that depression. Just another bonus of the Irish social welfare system!

No, you don't get a medical card unless you are on the non contribution based JSA. I was on JSB based on my PRSI stamps and on it for less than one year so didnt get any benefit like medical card, rent allowance, etc

Dakota Dan · 05-10-2018 11:36AM

If anyone mentions drivers using their fog lights in no fog on here they’ll be told it’s done to death and the thread is killed off but dole bashing threads keep coming without conflict.

ELM327 · 05-10-2018 11:36AM

super_furry wrote: »

Well fair play to you for being able to hold down a job with all that happening. That's a serious achievement and you're doing really well, you should be proud.

But, not everyone is able to cope as well as you are.

Bull sh1t.

I'm nothing special (and as someone who also has narcissistic personality disorder that's not easy to say

)
The only difference is me not being willing to live a life of handouts. If I can do it there's no excuse for any neurotypical person.

ELM327 · 05-10-2018 11:37AM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

If anyone mentions drivers using their fog lights in no fog on here they’ll be told it’s done to death and the thread is killed off but dole bashing threads keep coming without conflict.

If you've an issue with dole bashing threads, get a job, simples.
We have full employment now, no excuse for not having a job.

05-10-2018 11:38AM

screamer wrote:

From 85 to 100 percent. Ah fair play regina, sure why give Job Dodgers any incentive to get out of bed in the morning and do an honest days work for an honest days pay..... Talk about an own goal

Thread title is wrong. The full Christmas bonus has been restored. It has NOT been increased

Shanotheslayer · 05-10-2018 11:38AM

I think the best thing about the Dole Bashing threads is that most people doing it are in work whilst on boards

Dakota Dan · 05-10-2018 11:39AM

ELM327 wrote: »

If you've an issue with dole bashing threads, get a job, simples.
We have full employment now, no excuse for not having a job.

Im self employedthank you.

eagle eye · 05-10-2018 11:40AM

I wasn't attacking you just to be clear.

I was just making a point as regards illness on the dole. I think they go into a different scheme with at least the same money if not more if they are 'sick'.
So basically off down to the doctor with a medical card, cert to say they are unfit to work and bobs your uncle.

And yes you have to be out more than twelve months to get on the VIP treatment.

engiweirdo · 05-10-2018 11:43AM

Samsgirl wrote: »

That's not the issue. It's the fact that we get nothing for free. We have to pay for everything out of our earned money. I get paid €648 a fortnight. Out of that I pay for fuel to drive to/from work. After school costs for two children and my share of the mortgage. Also tax and insurance etc for the car.

I work 38 hrs a week, including every second Saturday. On the Dole I would get €400 a fortnight but wouldn't have any of those costs and more associated with it.

So it's not that I'm being paid minimum wage (public sector worker). It's that I get no handouts and have to fund everything myself. That's the issue.

You (most likely) will receive an increment/rise next year though and the year after, opportunity for promotion, professional development etc. Your kids see mammy and daddy going to work, instills work ethic .A far higher chance to significantly improve your situation, when the mortgage is payed down you own the asset.

On the dole you get the €400 a fortnight and associated freebies, but that's it. That's your life.

Having been on it for an extended period, mostly BTEA while returning to college it is no picnic and having completed my degree and on the dole proper now while desperately job searching, it is an absolutely head melting and soul destroying existence. Anyone who could see this as a realic lifestyle choice must already have some serious issues far beyond laziness to be honest.

Dakota Dan · 05-10-2018 11:45AM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I think the best thing about the Dole Bashing threads is that most people doing it are in work whilst on boards

And working their arses off, yeah right.

eagle eye · 05-10-2018 11:47AM

engiweirdo wrote:

Having been on it for an extended period, mostly BTEA while returning to college it is no picnic and having completed my degree and on the dole proper now while desperately job searching, it is an absolutely head melting and soul destroying existence. Anyone who could see this as a realic lifestyle choice must already have some serious issues far beyond laziness to be honest.

Are you looking for some specific type of work or are you willing to take any job to keep you going while you try to find the job you actually want. Like are you willing to flip burgers, work in a supermarket etc.?

Like there are loads of jobs out there.

eagle eye · 05-10-2018 11:49AM

Shanotheslayer wrote:

I think the best thing about the Dole Bashing threads is that most people doing it are in work whilst on boards

Are you on the dole?

eagle eye · 05-10-2018 11:56AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote:

Good luck finding someone willing to take you on to flip burgers or stock shelves when a quick look at your CV makes it obvious you'll be off to something better at the first opportunity.

I had a good laugh at that excuse.
There are tons of jobs because they can't get anyone. They'd be delighted to get somebody half decent even for a short spell.

engiweirdo · 05-10-2018 11:59AM

eagle eye wrote: »

Are you looking for some specific type of work or are you willing to take any job to keep you going while you try to find the job you actually want. Like are you willing to flip burgers, work in a supermarket etc.?

Like there are loads of jobs out there.

I have just completed a Mechanical Engineering degree and am actively seeking work in that field. My education was state funded too so burger flipping poses a few questions tbh:

1) Will it represent an improvement in my familys situation? At minimum wage, No (remember my responsibility is to them first not the taxpayer).

2) Will it represent a good investment by the employer? Likely not, I'll be un-motivated and off like a shot at the first sniff of a job in my field.

3) Will it represent a good return on the (taxpayer funded) investment in my education? Again absolutely not, I would be unlikely at that wage level to ever reimburse the cost of that education.

Christmas bonus for welfare recipients not only restored but increased

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