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Christmas bonus for welfare recipients not only restored but increased

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    I read so many posts here whinging about the bonus but yet noone has admitted that they will be quitting their job because dole life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    Do employees on CE schemes get this payment?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Do employees on CE schemes get this payment?


    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,983 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Hitman3000 wrote:
    I read so many posts here whinging about the bonus but yet noone has admitted that they will be quitting their job because dole life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)


    Because they prefer to work for their money.
    They are honest, hard working citizens.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I read so many posts here whinging about the bonus but yet noone has admitted that they will be quitting their job because dole life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)

    Already covered if you bothered reading - self respect, character, work ethic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007



    Education is free up to tertiary level, but the number of jobs requiring tertiary education is increasing. A Bachelor's degree is becoming more and more the equivalent of having a leaving cert in the past.

    So what's your point? there are many scholarships out there for people who cannot afford to go to college, if that fails, there is nothing stopping someone from getting a part time job and saving up and deferring college for a year or two.

    Equally there is no reason why someone has to go to college - do a trade, trade men in Ireland make a fortune.

    If you want to know what it is like to be poor in Ireland - go talk to someone over 80 - ask them what their conditions were like growing up - some will probably tell you that they have 5/6 siblings in a 2 bedroom house with no electricity for a few years, and little or no money for food. A xmas present was probably an small toy and they were delighted, nowadays despite being "poor", children get Xboxes etc. People of today in Ireland don't know what the hard times where.

    Just to add, these people over 80's and indeed any pensioner, deserve their bonus as they built Ireland to be what it is today, and most of them did it without the high paying jobs. Unfortunately a few of them also raised people to think that they can live off the government, and expect hand outs for everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭turbbo


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I read so many posts here whinging about the bonus but yet noone has admitted that they will be quitting their job because dole life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)

    That's not what people are whinging about! They know working is a better option but they don't want to supplement a xmas bonus - simples!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Already covered if you bothered reading - self respect, character, work ethic.


    None of which pays the bills. So I take you're not quitting for the super awesome dole life where everything is so much better. Thought so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭turbbo


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I read so many posts here whinging about the bonus but yet noone has admitted that they will be quitting their job because dole life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)

    I read so many posts here whinging about not having a job but yet noone has admitted quitting the dole because the work life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    turbbo wrote:
    That's not what people are whinging about! They know working is a better option but they don't want to supplement a xmas bonus - simples!


    The thread is about the bonus, the majority of the whinging is about the bonus. Saying it isn't is crap.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,853 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Samsgirl wrote: »
    Or days off having worked the previous weekend

    Or worked the previous night when the doleys were home scratching their ballbags wondering what time jeremy Kyle is on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭turbbo


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    The thread is about the bonus, the majority of the whinging is about the bonus. Saying it isn't is crap.

    Errr ok???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007



    Plenty of people went into trades before the recession, then ended up unemployed - another example of people who worked hard, but still ended up on hard times due to nothing other than bad luck.

    Was it bad luck that they didn't save for a rainy day, or they bought loads on credit? or just stupid?

    It's like today, anybody that thinks for a minute about this, knows a crash will come again, it could be 5 years time or 15 years, so be smart and don't go wild with money. Of course that's not going to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    ELM327 wrote: »
    If I lose my job because the company goes bust, or made redundant, I'll get another job. Same as I got this one when I was made redundant before. Except you gain more skills and experience with each job you have. Each job relevant to your skillset anyway.

    Do you accept that you might be unlucky, and that it might take some time - perhaps due to economic factors beyond your control - to find another job?

    If the company I work for goes bust or pulls out of Ireland after Brexit, I've acquired some skills and qualifications while working for them, so I should be ok as far as finding a similar job is concerned - certainly in a vastly better situation than a few months ago, when I lacked those particular qualifications anyway. Maybe I'm just really paranoid, having been in a desperate situation so recently, but I find it very difficult to assume that I'll just 'get another job' immediately, without luck playing a part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭turbbo


    Just sticking this here again - proud of what i did here - and it got snipped onto the previous page
    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I read so many posts here whinging about the bonus but yet noone has admitted that they will be quitting their job because dole life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)

    I read so many posts here whinging about not having a job but yet noone has admitted quitting the dole because the work life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I read so many posts here whinging about the bonus but yet noone has admitted that they will be quitting their job because dole life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)
    That is so amazingly original.

    A person can criticise freeloading, self entitled scum while not wanting to live their life. And of course plenty of people actually need state supports - they're not the ones being criticised, it's the said freeloaders who are causing revenue to be directed away from those who need it.

    There are deserving people on benefits who criticise the freeloaders too you know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    bassy wrote: »
    who gives a fook,talking about it aint gonna change nothing.................................

    sure what about politicians on thousands for doing nothing and ex ones on a big pension...................................


    Doing nothing.. right. The famous ‘bastards in the government getting paid huge wages for sitting on their arse’ yep right cause the big boys in the government got to where they are by sitting on their arses..... I don’t understand the envy people have of others getting high salaries. They don’t come from nowhere. You work your arse off too and you’ll get the rewards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Do you accept that you might be unlucky, and that it might take some time - perhaps due to economic factors beyond your control - to find another job?

    But we all know the next crash is coming, so should we save money now for when we are out of a job, and so we don't rely on the government - do you not think that is reasonable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,730 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I read so many posts here whinging about the bonus but yet noone has admitted that they will be quitting their job because dole life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)

    If the dole paid what my job does I would quit in the morning and stay at home to be with my kids.

    As someone who was on the dole for a while a few years ago, most people have my sympathy because I know what a struggle it is for genuine jobseekers and if this bonus helps a bit at Christmas then I have no problem with it. But the wasters who have no intention of even looking for work shouldn't be getting this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    turbbo wrote: »
    Just sticking this here again - proud of what i did here - and it got snipped onto the previous page

    Jesus wept. It's like watching a small child being proud for taking a shit with his trousers on...
    turbbo wrote:
    I read so many posts here whinging about not having a job but yet noone has admitted quitting the dole because the work life is so attractive. Wonder why? ;-)

    A couple of things I've posted in this very thread:
    Take it from someone who was on the dole and now isn't: I am infinitely more fortunate now than I was then.
    Tbh, I'm still at the stage where I'm enjoying not being unemployed so much that it almost doesn't feel like 'work'. I hope that lasts, and I don't turn into the sort of miserable prick who feels the need to sneer at those less fortunate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭turbbo


    Doing nothing.. right. The famous ‘bastards in the government getting paid huge wages for sitting on their arse’ yep right cause the big boys in the government got to where they are by sitting on their arses..... I don’t understand the envy people have of others getting high salaries. They don’t come from nowhere. You work your arse off too and you’ll get the rewards.

    It's all jealousy always the root of all of that $hite. They convince themselves it's not. It's not as if Ireland couldn't do with a lot more people earning more. It's not a finite pool in case people think it is. We can have more people earning more if they are smart and work hard - in many cases smart hard working people are penalised here instead of celebrated - famine mentality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    That is so amazingly original.


    Thanks. ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Jesus wept. It's like watching a small child being proud for taking a **** with his trousers on...


    lol. Good one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭turbbo


    Jesus wept. It's like watching a small child being proud for taking a shit with his trousers on...



    A couple of things I've posted in this very thread:

    Betcha miss the aul lie-ins! Will you be getting a xmas bonus in that job of yours?

    Shout outs to all the self quoting peeps on boards!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Why is the government paying out a “Christmas” bonus anyway??

    Should unemployed Muslims get a Ramadan bonus??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭turbbo


    Why is the government paying out a “Christmas” bonus anyway??

    Should unemployed Muslims get a Ramadan bonus??

    Bless yerself will ya before heading into paddy powers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    My OH has been on social welfare for 6 weeks, he'll be coming off it next week when he starts a new job.

    I have no issue with people like him receiving SW; I was on it myself for a few months back in 08.

    We both got back on the job market the first chance we got; we like working, we like being able to buy stuff.

    I don't understand folks who can choose to live years on end on handouts. It's not astronomical amounts, don't they want nice things in life? To be able to treat themselves to a holiday or even a nice dinner out? How do they live their lives?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    Why is the government paying out a “Christmas” bonus anyway??

    Should unemployed Muslims get a Ramadan bonus??

    Touché


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭turbbo


    My OH has been on social welfare for 6 weeks, he'll be coming off it next week when he starts a new job.

    I have no issue with people like him receiving SW; I was on it myself for a few months back in 08.

    We both got back on the job market the first chance we got; we like working, we like being able to buy stuff.

    I don't understand folks who can choose to live years on end on handouts. It's not astronomical amounts, don't they want nice things in life? To be able to treat themselves to a holiday or even a nice dinner out? How do they live their lives?

    Answer: black market - painters/handymen etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Cutie 3.14


    Brilliant username!!!!

    Tanx hun xoxox


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