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Christmas bonus for welfare recipients not only restored but increased

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  • 04-10-2018 11:34pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭


    From 85 to 100 percent. Ah fair play regina, sure why give Job Dodgers any incentive to get out of bed in the morning and do an honest days work for an honest days pay..... Talk about an own goal


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,065 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Great another dole bashing thread, shove it up your arse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Cutie 3.14


    screamer wrote: »
    From 85 to 100 percent. Ah fair play regina, sure why give Job Dodgers any incentive to get out of bed in the morning and do an honest days work for an honest days pay..... Talk about an own goal

    Sure off to the dole queue with yourself then if they have it so good...


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Apt name for the OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Glad to hear it. Expensive time of year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭screamer


    Couldn't care less what you guys think. It's pure disgraceful to give more money to people who won't work from our already over generous and over stretched welfare fund. Pensioners, disabled and genuine job seekers no problem but the work shy wasters, not a chance.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,760 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    screamer wrote: »
    From 85 to 100 percent. Ah fair play regina, sure why give Job Dodgers any incentive to get out of bed in the morning and do an honest days work for an honest days pay..... Talk about an own goal

    It was impossible for university educated workers to figure out how much 85% was. Much easier when you tell them to double the figure. And it will be the pensioners who get the most of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭engiweirdo


    Tis easy tell the bollixes on here with the constant dole envy/hatred have never had to survive on it, or look forward to Christmas stuck on it with a family. FOAD ye miserable cnuts in fairness like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    engiweirdo wrote: »
    Tis easy tell the bollixes on here with the constant dole envy/hatred have never had to survive on it, or look forward to Christmas stuck on it with a family. FOAD ye miserable cnuts in fairness like.
    You seem like a reasonable, well balanced individual.

    To OP has a point. Pensioners, carers, the disabled should be more than looked after. The able bodied who just don’t wish to work are the ones who should “FOAD” as you put it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Whinge whinge whinge, change the record ffs


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭Bret Hart


    Fantastic news.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭bassy


    who gives a fook,talking about it aint gonna change nothing.................................

    sure what about politicians on thousands for doing nothing and ex ones on a big pension...................................


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Top laughs! Lads in budget 18, a worker on 30,000 received a w1.50 weekly usc reduction. The welfare warriors an extra fiver a week and I expect the same this budget. Well, you have an option, renua... or vote for more of the same!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,760 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    bassy wrote: »
    who gives a fook,talking about it aint gonna change nothing.................................

    sure what about politicians on thousands for doing nothing and ex ones on a big pension...................................

    If we did away with the whole lot of them, what was saved in a year probably wouldn't pay the social welfare bill for a week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    screamer wrote: »
    Couldn't care less what you guys think. It's pure disgraceful to give more money to people who won't work from our already over generous and over stretched welfare fund. Pensioners, disabled and genuine job seekers no problem but the work shy wasters, not a chance.
    No it’s a great use of the money. The akaconh health service , infrastructure , housing , world class national debt , Can Defo do with the few hundred million less thanks going to be sent up in smoke on the welfare increases !


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    If we did away with the whole lot of them, what was saved in a year probably wouldn't pay the social welfare bill for a week.

    Honestly , at over twenty billion, it would probably be a few hours, if even !


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭bassy


    If we did away with the whole lot of them, what was saved in a year probably wouldn't pay the social welfare bill for a week.

    sure there all on turas nua,bright futures ahead................................


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭engiweirdo


    You seem like a reasonable, well balanced individual.

    To OP has a point. Pensioners, carers, the disabled should be more than looked after. The able bodied who just don’t wish to work are the ones who should “FOAD” as you put it.

    Or on BTEA, "activation schemes" etc? How do you plan on identifying the exact amount who "dont want to work" (what <2% of the polulation) and isolating them to remove the bonus? Or do you just like having someone to look down your nose at?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Is it actually called a bonus? Is it not called something less insulting to workers who pay for it that don't themselves get a bonus, like a supplementary payment.

    Why don't workers get more tax credits for Christmas from the government as a bonus? I'd don't get a bonus myself, you'd see ice in hell before that happens.

    People are working and struggling just as much as the next person on welfare. Just cause your working doesn't mean you don't need a hand. You'd be a euro over the thresholds for help from working and its tuff luck from the great elite above us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Top laughs! Lads in budget 18, a worker on 30,000 received a w1.50 weekly usc reduction. The welfare warriors an extra fiver a week and I expect the same this budget. Well, you have an option, renua... or vote for more of the same!

    Instead of €1:50 to workers and €5 to those on dole how about spending the tax money on public services, housing or job investments. Spend money to make money makes everyone's life better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    So €400 euro cash in hand just before Christmas from the dole office (actually probably 600 because i'm sure there will have to be an advance too?)

    It's not right, simple as that. There is no moral or ethical argument for it when you think of the majority workers many of which are really struggling.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    how about spending the tax money on public services

    You will want to sit down before you hear this.

    Ready?

    Tax money is already spend on public services.
    €61,000,000,000's worth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Great another dole bashing thread, shove it up your arse.

    Such an original reply. Did you come up with it all by yourself or did you get help?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    But wait the guberment is bleeding robbing us ,


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Great. Another dole bashing thread. Well over due from the last one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    engiweirdo wrote: »

    Or on BTEA, "activation schemes" etc? How do you plan on identifying the exact amount who "dont want to work" (what <2% of the polulation) and isolating them to remove the bonus? Or do you just like having someone to look down your nose at?
    Yeah, pull your head out of your ar*e there. There are plenty of long, long term recipients of the dole who don’t want to work. They simply don’t. And it’s the rest of us footing the bill for them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    So lads... what are ye going to spend your hard earned bonus on? :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Lets bash working people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I wonder what percentage of workers will get €600 tax free in to their hands just before Christmas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Instead of €1:50 to workers and €5 to those on dole how about spending the tax money on public services, housing or job investments. Spend money to make money makes everyone's life better.

    I was literally thinking this today. All the cuts we made, efforts made by all and they are all been reversed. Unless I missed something but are we not seriously still in a bad way as in we still owe out billions on billions of Euro.

    I really can't understand it, we are literally walking into it again. FG at the wheel this time, FF on the hand break. If FF had any respect for us they would stop this mess for the sake of the people. Instead they want FG to create a similar mess so they are even.

    The lads in Europe and Rest of the world must be looking on in disbelief at this ****.

    It's like once one group got pay restored, they the whole house came down. No it's just constant indirect taxes or adjusting old ones, and the same group in the middle again constantly taking the hit. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Bertie was put back behind the wheel again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    It’s an appallingly run country. When the **** hits the fan again , lol! The last time national debt was minuscule, this time it’s off the wall. Next time round they really will be making “hard decisions “!


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