Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

Suckit wrote: »

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Do the Gardaí believe that this was the only time that MH did something like this?
I read something similar a day or so back while I was working and I meant to save the article but can not find it now.

I not seen any reports one way or the other as to what aspects of his former life AGS might be looking at. It was widely reported that his DNA profile would be run against open unsolved cases, where DNA samples from perpetrators exist. Unfortunately, where women were abducted and/or disappeared without a trace, by definition no crime scene would have been found and perpetrator DNA would not have been collected..

chicorytip wrote: »

It has been reported she was banging on the windows trying to attract the attention of passers-by so he may have been unable to subdue her, initially. Gardai were of the opinion, at the beginning, that his motivation was sexual although there have been no statements made regarding this particular aspect since the post mortem and her subsequent funeral. Hennessy may have been a paedophile. Jastine was a petite lady who looked younger than her age and could have appeared to be a young girl in her early teens.

He seems to have been acting very erratically that day, both before and after the murder. There may well have been a sexual element in his targeting of a young girl but people have overlooked that he might simply have been in a manic state and wanted the 'thrill' of killing a girl, this was the main part of it for him. He was possibly high on drugs too (I'm not blaming the drugs for one moment though : they wouldn't turn him into a cold blooded killer, but they might make an already disturbed / unstable person even more unstable and erratic).

Suckit wrote: »

I must have misread.

They are still examining his phone(s) and hers for any contact or any links, but they suspect it was random. If they attack does appear to be random, then the Gardaí may examine Hennessyin relation to other unsolved attacks or missing persons cases.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/gardai-fear-jastine-was-random-victim-murder-probe-as-body-set-to-be-identified-470976.html

Yu Xin Li would surely be one of those.

Oh God! I hadn't heard about that poor girl.. I'm sure they'll check, to the extent that is possible,given the apparent lack of info on her last known location. Again though, if a crime scene hasnkt been found, there won't be DNA evidence from that, so 8ther evidentiary approaches will be needed. I don't envy the trawl AGS is going to have to do to see if there was any possible point of contact between MH and possible victims.

Strazdas wrote: »

There was an interesting half hour discussion on Jastine on Marian Finucane this morning. What I didn't realise was just how unusual an event this was. They had an expert on this subject in studio and she said it's extremely rare for a woman in Ireland to be murdered by a complete stranger. The only two cases in recent memory were a Romanian girl in 2012 and the Swiss student Manuela Riedo about ten years' ago.

It does tell us just just how unbelievably unlucky poor Jastine was. The odds of her being abducted by a random maniac and murdered in a given year in Ireland would have been many millions to one.

You believe that? Why? Because no bodies were found in other cases of missing women?

Strazdas wrote: »

There was an interesting half hour discussion on Jastine on Marian Finucane this morning. What I didn't realise was just how unusual an event this was. They had an expert on this subject in studio and she said it's extremely rare for a woman in Ireland to be murdered by a complete stranger. The only two cases in recent memory were a Romanian girl in 2012 and the Swiss student Manuela Riedo about ten years' ago.

It does tell us just just how unbelievably unlucky poor Jastine was. The odds of her being abducted by a random maniac and murdered in a given year in Ireland would have been many millions to one.

You believe that? Why? Because no bodies were found in other cases of missing women?

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2620758/missing-woman-mark-hennessy-home-murdered/

You stated there were only two murders of abducted women but that is only because their bodies were found . So there are more than that.

Not saying it's common but it's also quite likely more than two.

chicorytip wrote: »

It has been reported she was banging on the windows trying to attract the attention of passers-by so he may have been unable to subdue her, initially. Gardai were of the opinion, at the beginning, that his motivation was sexual although there have been no statements made regarding this particular aspect since the post mortem and her subsequent funeral. Hennessy may have been a paedophile. Jastine was a petite lady who looked younger than her age and could have appeared to be a young girl in her early teens.

I think it's most likely he thought it would be easier and wasn't expecting her to put up a fight. So if he did do it before it probably went much easier and Jastine's fight took him be surprise. I think it's more likely he hasn't done it before and underestimated how hard someone will fight for their life.



I remember a video shown to me before. He gave a simple direction to women. If you are ever attacked by someone do everything in your power to stop him moving you to a second location because it's more likely than not he'll kill you.


I can only find an Oprah link for it

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I think it's most likely he thought it would be easier and wasn't expecting her to put up a fight. So if he did do it before it probably went much easier and Jastine's fight took him be surprise. I think it's more likely he hasn't done it before and underestimated how hard someone will fight for their life.



I remember a video shown to me before. He gave a simple direction to women. If you are ever attacked by someone do everything in your power to stop him moving you to a second location because it's more likely than not he'll kill you.


I can only find an Oprah link for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9E1-FJUqJA

that's some 'great' advice, I think it's instinctively clear to anybody, you don't follow an attacker easily. but what can you do if he's stronger than you, punches you in the face and shoves you in a car??

but relating to this there was always one question in my head and probably the car enthusiasts here can answer it easily: I was wondering, does this Nissan Quashquai have a boot which is seperated from the rest of the car, means he put her in the boot and she was in a confined room? Because if not, I wonder why she not attacked him from behind, i.e. scratching and hitting.

wakka12 wrote: »

That is just so beautiful what the families did for eachother. It shows such strength from the Valdez family and I would say their sign of kindness to the Hennessy family will go a great way to lessening their burden of guilt, of course they shouldnt feel guilt but Id say its only natural to feel some how responsible in that situation.

Yes indeed, it would have been very easy for the Valdez family to pass up on the chance of a meeting (especially so soon and with things so raw) and not a single person would have thought unkindly of them for doing so. It does tell us the type of people they are, good people just like their beautiful daughter.

tara73 wrote: »

that's some 'great' advice, I think it's instinctively clear to anybody, you don't follow an attacker easily. but what can you do if he's stronger than you, punches you in the face and shoves you in a car??

but relating to this there was always one question in my head and probably the car enthusiasts here can answer it easily: I was wondering, does this Nissan Quashquai have a boot which is seperated from the rest of the car, means he put her in the boot and she was in a confined room? Because if not, I wonder why she not attacked him from behind, i.e. scratching and hitting.

or get at the steering wheel any which way you can...esp if he was going fast...wouldn't take much to roll it...you're risking your life in an accident cos of no seatbelt etc but better those odds and if it happens on a motorway other cars will be involved, witnesses etc

I've been trying to make some sense of what happened to her, when on the surface it seems beyond senseless. The best I can come up with is that terrible things sometimes happen to good people. We just have to have to accept that unpleasant fact about life. She was in the wrong place at the wrong moment and the luck wasn't with her.

retro:electro wrote: »

It’s beyond the pale. My worst nightmare. Everyone’s worst nightmare. I just can’t shake what happened to her. It’s really upsetting.

Yes, it's very hard to get your head around the idea of someone wanting to hurt an innocent person in this manner, it goes against all our natural instincts, a betrayal of our human capacity for empathy and kindness. We want to put it right for her and we can't, that part is the worst aspect.

OB1Kildare wrote: »

i read a quote from the guards that the laptop will solve it - and close the case for all involved ...what ever that means . strange they have found everything else but that is one thing missing

I haven't seen that quote. Seems strange. AGS have been looking for a blue bag which contained a number of items including an iPad mini. I didnt know they were looking for a laptop also.

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes indeed, it would have been very easy for the Valdez family to pass up on the chance of a meeting (especially so soon and with things so raw) and not a single person would have thought unkindly of them for doing so. It does tell us the type of people they are, good people just like their beautiful daughter.

That's incredible that they were able to do this. There are still some very good people in this world.

Is there any reason people think he was looking for a child? I dont she looks like a child at all, teenager maybe.