Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

PCeeeee · 26-05-2018 02:07PM

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

If I'm walking behind a woman late at night or somewhere really quiet, I'll generally speed up and get past her as quickly as I can, because I don't want to make anyone nervous. If you're not a threat to someone, then there's no harm in doing something to indicate that fact, set their mind at rest. Simply saying "well, that's their own issue" is just selfish.

Tell me, do you extend the same courtesy to lone men at night?

Tell me how · 26-05-2018 02:20PM

Drifter50 wrote: »

More unbelievable guff from CK on her show yesterday. She said the Champions League final was irrelevant to her and anything to do with it is white noise and she filters it out. Ciara you may not be interested in the Champions League final today and that is your personal opinion but thousands of men and women up and down the country are and last time I checked you are a presenter of a Current Affairs Program that surely relates to and reports on........current affairs this weeks events and sports events etc

As for the way she treated that lady Eileen from Carlow who was facing homelessness during the week, I mean WTF. " Listen pet, you need to go and talk to someone, you could start with your GP " I mean just how condescending is that.

I`ve had enough, I am getting wound up listening now so I`m opting out. Can`t stand Muireann on Today FM with the nails on glass screech tones or Ronan Collins on R1 with the blandest of bland so I`m on the hunt for Lyric FM or even BBC5live

Over and out

Ciara isn't my favourite presenter by any stretch and I do feel she is blinded almost exclusively by her opinion. But..... I must challenge you on this.

I really think you have gone out of your way to find something to complain about here. I could not disagree with you more.

A - Newstalk have Off the Ball as their only 7 day program and typically gets 25 hours a week live coverage. They will and have been discussing the Champions League Final extensively. And on their morning show as well (only available online) for a further 7 hours a week. There isn't a single radio show in the country who analyses actual sport between 12 and 2 Monday to Friday.

B - With respect to Eileen. I heard zero condescension from Ciara. She advised her to go to 2 people. A GP as a medical priority and to a social worker for assistance on her housing issue. She pleaded for people in the region who might be in a position to do so to reach out to help Eileen if they could. She suggested that her team would make some calls to see if they could help. I actually thought she went too far in trying to accommodate someone on the radio albeit with a heart breaking story but if there is a positive outcome for Eileen from Ciara's show, how many more people will be calling in to try to plead their case. I think it is dangerous territory for a show to be open to potentially dubious claims.

J Mysterio · 26-05-2018 02:38PM

I haven't listened to the show in months, it is shıt and Kelly is an absolute pain. I turn the dial. Don't listen to Moncrieff anymore either, and i'd rather listen to Drivetime on RTE than Yates on NT. In fact the only show I look out for on NT now is Pat Kenny.

Yer Da sells Avon · 26-05-2018 03:37PM

PCeeeee wrote: »

Tell me, do you extend the same courtesy to lone men at night?

No. No, I don't. Does that offend you?

DickSwiveller · 26-05-2018 04:00PM

I agree with kelly Re the champions league match. Couldn't care less and completely irrelevant.

PCeeeee · 26-05-2018 04:40PM

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

No. No, I don't. Does that offend you?

:pac::pac: No.

Joe Dog · 26-05-2018 05:07PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

I agree with kelly Re the champions league match. Couldn't care less and completely irrelevant.

But it's not completely irrelevant to people who have an interest in it.

Usually the hallmark of a proper broadcaster is to show interest in a wide variety of topics and have some knowledge on them whether they actually have a genuine interest in them or not.

It doesn't help a broadcaster if they just dismiss topics as they are there to cater to the audience and not their own interests as it just shows a level of ignorance that broadcasters on national radio stations should not have.

DickSwiveller · 26-05-2018 05:26PM

Joe Dog wrote: »

But it's not completely irrelevant to people who have an interest in it.

Usually the hallmark of a proper broadcaster is to show interest in a wide variety of topics and have some knowledge on them whether they actually have a genuine interest in them or not.

It doesn't help a broadcaster if they just dismiss topics as they are there to cater to the audience and not their own interests as it just shows a level of ignorance that broadcasters on national radio stations should not have.

But her programme is a current affairs show. Sport is trivial and is already given far too much coverage. Off the Ball covers sport for two hours every weekday. Surely that's enough.

Joe Dog · 26-05-2018 05:33PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

But her programme is a current affairs show. Sport is trivial and is already given far too much coverage. Off the Ball covers sport for two hours every weekday. Surely that's enough.

If you outright dismiss something and say you have zero interest in it like she has in this case be it sport,films, music etc you are dismissing something that will be of interest to some of your listeners and dismissing something that people like is not a way of endearing you to them.No need to go into a detailed discussion just feign some interest and you don't have that issue.

Broadcasters feign interest in stuff all the time for the sake of their viewers and listeners.I guess that's the problem with getting a doctor to present a radio show she isn't a proper broadcaster and therefore she doesn't see things from some of her audiences perspective and thinks that her opinion is the only valid opinion, sadly that seems to be way all media is going these days.

Tell me how · 26-05-2018 05:40PM

Joe Dog wrote:

Broadcasters feign interest in stuff all the time for the sake of their viewers and listeners.I guess that's the problem with getting a doctor to present a radio show she isn't a proper broadcaster and therefore she doesn't see things from some of her audiences perspective and thinks that her opinion is the only valid opinion, sadly that seems to be way all media is going these days.

Can you mention another show on national Irish radio or TV that discussed/analysed any match between 09:00 and 17:00 Monday to Friday?

You'll probably go back as far as 2002 and the Saipan incident and before that 1995 for Cantona's kick to find them discussed on any current affairs shows. There's plenty forums where they are discussed but in terms of sporting analysis they don't belong on shows like Ciara's.

Even when George was on during the day, he kept sport analysis out of his show.

Drifter50 · 26-05-2018 05:40PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Ciara isn't my favourite presenter by any stretch and I do feel she is blinded almost exclusively by her opinion. But..... I must challenge you on this.

I really think you have gone out of your way to find something to complain about here. I could not disagree with you more.

A - Newstalk have Off the Ball as their only 7 day program and typically gets 25 hours a week live coverage. They will and have been discussing the Champions League Final extensively. And on their morning show as well (only available online) for a further 7 hours a week. There isn't a single radio show in the country who analyses actual sport between 12 and 2 Monday to Friday.

B - With respect to Eileen. I heard zero condescension from Ciara. She advised her to go to 2 people. A GP as a medical priority and to a social worker for assistance on her housing issue. She pleaded for people in the region who might be in a position to do so to reach out to help Eileen if they could. She suggested that her team would make some calls to see if they could help. I actually thought she went too far in trying to accommodate someone on the radio albeit with a heart breaking story but if there is a positive outcome for Eileen from Ciara's show, how many more people will be calling in to try to plead their case. I think it is dangerous territory for a show to be open to potentially dubious claims.

I`m not for a minute saying there is not enough sports coverage on NT, indeed there`s maybe too much, but to dismiss out of hand the event and the thousands of people who will be glued to it seems to me inappropriate for a presenter of a daily lunchtime current affairs show. If she has nothing positive to add to the event, then simply don`t discuss it.

I thought it condescending to Eileen, she did say she had exhausted all avenues and would continue to do so. You don`t need to call someone "pet" on live radio. But I take your point about getting her "team" to investigate other options and like you say a dangerous precedent.

Tks for your considered response

DickSwiveller · 26-05-2018 05:52PM

Joe Dog wrote: »

If you outright dismiss something and say you have zero interest in it like she has in this case be it sport,films, music etc you are dismissing something that will be of interest to some of your listeners and dismissing something that people like is not a way of endearing you to them.No need to go into a detailed discussion just feign some interest and you don't have that issue.

Broadcasters feign interest in stuff all the time for the sake of their viewers and listeners.I guess that's the problem with getting a doctor to present a radio show she isn't a proper broadcaster and therefore she doesn't see things from some of her audiences perspective and thinks that her opinion is the only valid opinion, sadly that seems to be way all media is going these days.

I don't see why she should feign interest in something she couldn't care less about. Sure, let someone talk about it if necessary but she is within her rights to say she doesn't care.

Joe Dog · 26-05-2018 05:58PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

I don't see why she should feign interest in something she couldn't care less about. Sure, let someone talk about it if necessary but she is within her rights to say she doesn't care.

She can say she doesn't care but that sort of stuff doesn't exactly reflect well on a broadcaster of any kind as I'm not sure it helps endear you to listeners who may care.

DickSwiveller · 26-05-2018 06:03PM

Joe Dog wrote: »

She can say she doesn't care but that sort of stuff doesn't exactly reflect well on a broadcaster of any kind as I'm not sure it helps endear you to listeners who may care.

I'm sure the football fans will get over it.

anthonyjmaher · 26-05-2018 06:03PM

I heard one of her female contributors this week saying "Oh I'd love to take some time off and get some Tango lessons from a really hot guy in Brazil". And herself and Ciara Kelly laugh. It's this sort of sh1te that annoys me. Now I have no problem with her going and getting lessons from a guy in Brazil, be he hot or not. And I don't have a problem with her referring to the guy as hot. But if one of the male contributors were to say "I'd love to get dance lessons from a really hot girl", Sinead O'Carroll would be on line one saying "Why does it have to be a HOT girl, what would be wrong with getting lessons from a woman who was not HOT. You are treating woman as sex objects" and Ciara Kelly would be saying that ALL males need to attend classes in how to treat non-hot women better.

It's this sort of double standard that really gets to me, particularly given that the only purpose of the show seems to be Ciara Kelly's crusade for "equality". She doesn't even treat the sexes equally herself.

DickSwiveller · 26-05-2018 06:05PM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I heard one of her female contributors this week saying "Oh I'd love to take some time off and get some Tango lessons from a really hot guy in Brazil". And herself and Ciara Kelly laugh. It's this sort of sh1te that annoys me. Now I have no problem with her going and getting lessons from a guy in Brazil, be he hot or not. And I don't have a problem with her referring to the guy as hot. But if one of the male contributors were to say "I'd love to get dance lessons from a really hot girl", Sinead O'Carroll would be on line one saying "Why does it have to be a HOT girl, what would be wrong with getting lessons from a woman who was not HOT. You are treating woman as sex objects" and Ciara Kelly would be saying that ALL males need to attend classes in how to treat non-hot women better.

It's this sort of double standard that really gets to me, particularly given that the only purpose of the show seems to be Ciara Kelly's crusade for "equality". She doesn't even treat the sexes equally herself.

Yep, complete double standards.

Sleeper12 · 26-05-2018 06:11PM

Tell me how wrote:

Even when George was on during the day, he kept sport analysis out of his show.

Unless it was his beloved rugby. Even then he tended to stick with injuries within the sport

mloc123 · 26-05-2018 06:15PM

Assume Ciara will be outraged by the killing of the man in Louth on Monday

Sleeper12 · 26-05-2018 06:25PM

mloc123 wrote:

Assume Ciara will be outraged by the killing of the man in Louth on Monday

I've also feeling that it will be wall to wall referendum on all stations on Monday

meeeeh · 26-05-2018 06:51PM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I heard one of her female contributors this week saying "Oh I'd love to take some time off and get some Tango lessons from a really hot guy in Brazil". And herself and Ciara Kelly laugh. It's this sort of sh1te that annoys me. Now I have no problem with her going and getting lessons from a guy in Brazil, be he hot or not. And I don't have a problem with her referring to the guy as hot.

That really is a disgrace. Tango is danced in Argentina.

the_pen_turner · 26-05-2018 08:28PM

they realy should rename her show double standards. or selective equality

Yer Da sells Avon · 26-05-2018 08:32PM

honeybear · 26-05-2018 08:37PM

I only listen to selective podcasts but don’t mind her. My main problem with Newstalk programmes is the very repetitive nature of lifestyle topics. I’ve often heard the same movie reviewed on 3 programmes within a few days. Similarly, most Newstalk programmes seem to have Travel segments.

sligojoek · 26-05-2018 09:09PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Can you mention another show on national Irish radio or TV that discussed/analysed any match between 09:00 and 17:00 Monday to Friday?

You'll probably go back as far as 2002 and the Saipan incident and before that 1995 for Cantona's kick to find them discussed on any current affairs shows. There's plenty forums where they are discussed but in terms of sporting analysis they don't belong on shows like Ciara's.

Even when George was on during the day, he kept sport analysis out of his show.

Sean O Rourke does sport on a regular basis. Especially on a monday

the_pen_turner · 26-05-2018 09:11PM

ivan yates talks about horseracing and man city all the time.
even did an 8th ref programme from a horse racing track. had to talk to the owner and gave the place a good plug

Tell me how · 26-05-2018 09:24PM

sligojoek wrote:

Sean O Rourke does sport on a regular basis. Especially on a monday

I haven't ever heard this but not a big listener of his show.

the_pen_turner wrote:

ivan yates talks about horseracing and man city all the time. even did an 8th ref programme from a horse racing track. had to talk to the owner and gave the place a good plug

Most drive time shows do a sports slot. Usually after 6 although I think Radio 1 to something at half 5.

meeeeh · 26-05-2018 09:29PM

Somehow I think the desire to listen to talk about football won't be there on Monday anyway.

honeybear · 26-05-2018 09:31PM

sligojoek wrote: »

Sean O Rourke does sport on a regular basis. Especially on a monday

Ya, Sean does a weekend sport review on Monday

Drifter50 · 26-05-2018 09:33PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

they realy should rename her show double standards. or selective equality

Now thats a term I can identify within todays climate, selective equality.........

sligojoek · 27-05-2018 12:33AM

Tell me how wrote: »

I haven't ever heard this but not a big listener of his show.

Most drive time shows do a sports slot. Usually after 6 although I think Radio 1 to something at half 5.

If you were, Yoy'd know he'd drop a Galway/Meath GAA or a golf anecdote into an interview about North Korea

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