Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

Bunny Colvin · 26-05-2018 12:19AM

It was never in doubt really. A big factor was all the leaders of the political parties supporting the yes vote. My Father (for his troubles)is staunch Fianna Fail and followed Micheal Martin's lead. In fairness, he educated himself on the matter a little but there's no doubt that it was a big factor.

Delighted for all the head bangers that advocated 'No' in the run up. Logic and compassion has won out today, not fear mongering and scare tactics. Another blow to The Catholic Church in this country too. All and all, a great day all around.

Well done Ireland.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 26-05-2018 12:19AM

Lady Spangles wrote: »

At the end of the day, even "college kids" have rights and they know how to exercise them. OP was still utterly wrong, though.

College kids only vote to look cool on their facebook page and to get plenty of likes, because it's rad or whatever the **** they say nowadays :pac:

fritzelly · 26-05-2018 12:19AM

wexie wrote: »

Doesn't really matter anymore though does it, just let them to their bitching and moaning. It's done now, it's over.

Yay!!!

Still won't let up tho will they - expect this for months to come alas

Vlad Kelly · 26-05-2018 12:20AM

I love this, my post was apparently nonsense yet it immediately drew a shower of stuttering replies. Remember, just because abortion is in doesn't mean it won't ache in the bones of those who do it. It is killing your own child and it will have horrific consequences to your mental health. Who won again?

gmisk · 26-05-2018 12:20AM

Water John wrote: »

Jetstone, we have had plenty of these new accounts in the last few weeks, suggesting leaning yes or no and then bashing the Yes campaign.
The style has been well spotted.
I see you've brought along a friend too. Welcome Neo.

This!!!
Thank you.

It didn't work

Spanish Eyes · 26-05-2018 12:21AM

The vote was a resistance to command and control from ethereal entities like Iona.

But more than that, women who had to suffer the command of the CC back in the day would never want that kind of control for their own daughters. Everyone has a voice.

Our mothers did not have it easy, and my own mother said never again will they (CC) tell me how to live my life. Love you Mam even though you are ill and getting on. Inspiration.

I am quite emotional about this now. It is more a hit in the face to the god botherers and controllers as it is about abortion to be frank.

26-05-2018 12:21AM

wexie wrote: »

Doesn't really matter anymore though does it, just let them to their bitching and moaning. It's done now, it's over.

Yay!!!

It would be one thing to celebrate actually, the thought of a good few sad little blokes that sitting raging that people voted for women.

uptherebels · 26-05-2018 12:21AM

Vlad Kelly wrote: »

I love this, my post was apparently nonsense yet it immediately drew a shower of stuttering replies. Remember, just because abortion is in doesn't mean it won't ache in the bones of those who do it. It is killing your own child and it will have horrific consequences to your mental health. Who won again?

The repeal side

Overheal · 26-05-2018 12:21AM

I8A4RE wrote: »

Hillary and the Remainers thought they won the night before too.

Not after the exit polls called Florida, no. You’re reaching.

god's toy · 26-05-2018 12:22AM

Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, Repealed !

storker · 26-05-2018 12:22AM

NeoVaradkar wrote: »

Cant understand Church going people who support abortion.
.

I can. All it takes is a realisation that not everyone shares your own beliefs and shouldn't necessarily be bound by them.

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eviltwin · 26-05-2018 12:23AM

Vlad Kelly wrote: »

I love this, my post was apparently nonsense yet it immediately drew a shower of stuttering replies. Remember, just because abortion is in doesn't mean it won't ache in the bones of those who do it. It is killing your own child and it will have horrific consequences to your mental health. Who won again?

It doesn't, it really doesn't

Infini · 26-05-2018 12:23AM

Overheal wrote: »

Not after the exit polls called Florida, no. You’re reaching.

And latest exit polls are polling repeal at close to 70%. A crushing victory of an informed YES vote over a factually lacking NO campaign.

Jimmy Dags · 26-05-2018 12:23AM

Am I trivially annoyed or trivially happy who knows.

wexie · 26-05-2018 12:24AM

NeoVaradkar wrote: »

Erm you go to Church and support abortion and are triumphant for it?.

Plenty of ministers and reverends came out for repeal.

Just depends on what Church you're talking about really

ballsymchugh · 26-05-2018 12:24AM

Zaph wrote: »

No amount of "naive college kids" was ever going to account for a near 70% vote in favour. That level of support could only have been achieved through broad support through all demographics, including people like my 75 year old mother. If you're going to troll this badly, at least have a semi-credible argument to back up your nonsense.

i wonder how much the hometovote campaign made a difference? it kinda grinds my gears that people who live abroad for a while think that they've become so sophisticated that they feel the need to come home and show how things should be, when we're able to manage fine, thanks.

especially the ones about to go back to 18th century brexit britain.

Movementarian · 26-05-2018 12:24AM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Quantify what's pretty standard? Are you saying second trimester abortions aren't happening? In the UK in 2016, there were about 190,000 abortions, 92% taking place before 13 weeks. So circa 8% of 190,000, which is alot to get ripped limb from limb. So accounting for population difference, we're about 1/10th the size of the UK, factoring those in the north crossing the border. 2000 approximately? Not including week 12-13 from figures of: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/679028/Abortions_stats_England_Wales_2016.pdf

2,000, many to get ripped limb from limb per year, is alot for me

And more scaremongering, draft legislation is specific on this point. Once past 24 weeks it is only in the case of FFA or serious risk to the life/health of the mother that an abortion will be legal. And it has to be agreed by two medical practicioners. This is more restrictive than the UK and clearly only meant for last resort. You are purposefully describing it as if it will be an 'ah what the hell lets do it decision'.

Just grow up, the public didnt buy it and can clearly see the logic to it. After all what is the alternative? Let the mother die? Let both die? Force to carry a FFA to term?

People like you are why this is just awful. Nobody I know wants to be happy about this, its all tragic, but you and people like you with your constant belittling of others morals and this 'oh you will all be killing babies in the morning' makes it so hard to engage with you.

fritzelly · 26-05-2018 12:25AM

Vlad Kelly wrote: »

I love this, my post was apparently nonsense yet it immediately drew a shower of stuttering replies. Remember, just because abortion is in doesn't mean it won't ache in the bones of those who do it. It is killing your own child and it will have horrific consequences to your mental health. Who won again?

You would need some child bearing hips to feel it in your bones

hatrickpatrick · 26-05-2018 12:26AM

Vlad Kelly wrote: »

It's really amazing that the yes side won without having any decent arguments. You have to hand it to them, they ran a dishonest but very successful campaign and managed to brainwash some very naive college aged kids to vote for something as sick as abortion. It's really astonishing to see them succeed with so little on their side.

They really didn't. Anecdotally, most people of my Generation (late 80s / early 90s) made up our minds about foetal "personhood" as far back as Junior Cert science class. Whatever about the rest of the population, implying that this campaign "swayed" college aged kids to being pro-choice is ridiculous, most of us have been pro-choice since we were young because nobody ever gave us a convincing argument in favour of believing that life begins at the moment of an egg being fertilised.

storker · 26-05-2018 12:27AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Does this mean all those wasters on those bridges over the N11 in Foxrock/Stillorgan/UCD at 7:30am each morning (still there at 6:30pm) will go away and find some work like real people have to?

Funny that, because many of my wife's colleagues (nurses) were late for work this morning because of the antics of No campaigners on N11 flyovers in the Bray area. Happily, the result means they won't have to put up with that either. Hopefully.

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The Golden Miller · 26-05-2018 12:27AM

Infini wrote: »

And latest exit polls are polling repeal at close to 70%. A crushing victory of an informed YES vote over a factually lacking NO campaign.

What's informed? I know alot of these repeal jumper wearing social justice warriors that never once considered the unborn, nor weighed up the merits of both sides, before coming to a reasonable conclusion. They may have come to a "yes" conclusion anyway, but at least it would of been informed

bladespin · 26-05-2018 12:28AM

NeoVaradkar wrote:

Cant understand Church going people who support abortion.

Must've actually listened then.

_Dara_ · 26-05-2018 12:28AM

spurious wrote: »

The No side shot themselves in the foot with things like Ronan Mullen's reaction to that woman on the TV the other night. Talk about clueless.

Saoirse Long’s account of her story stayed with me. So strong and articulate. I honestly think that one woman was very influential.

Hellrazer · 26-05-2018 12:30AM

murpho999 wrote: »

To think in the mid eighties the following were all illegal.

Homosexuality
Contraception
Divorce
Same Sex Marriage
Abortion

Ireland has come a hell of a long way in 30 years.

Very proud.

I said exactly this in the very first thread way back.

This resounding win is the final nail in the Catholic churches coffin.

Amazing how liberal we've become in 30 years.

retro:electro · 26-05-2018 12:30AM

Ironically I think the Iona Institute is the greatest thing we’ve ever produced.
They’ve portrayed such a backwards recall to 1950’s Ireland that I think they are responsible for a lot of voters running screaming into the 21st Century. I’d like to thank Stepford Steen for being such an unfathomable gowl.

_Dara_ · 26-05-2018 12:31AM

Hellrazer wrote: »

I said exactly this in the very first thread way back.

This resounding win is the final nail in the Catholic churches coffin.

Amazing how liberal we've become in 30 years.

While other European countries go the other way! :eek:

retro:electro · 26-05-2018 12:31AM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

What's informed? I know alot of these repeal jumper wearing social justice warriors that never once considered the unborn, nor weighed up the merits of both sides, before coming to a reasonable conclusion. They may have come to a "yes" conclusion anyway, but at least it would of been informed

How can you possibly know this? Stop talking shiite

realitykeeper · 26-05-2018 12:32AM

physioman wrote: »

Legalised abortion! Hope Yee can live with yourselves.you just supported murder Ireland.

Ignore the insults physioman

Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

26-05-2018 12:32AM

Bit late (and a bit drunk) but I voted YES! Looks like we did it lads

Zaph · 26-05-2018 12:33AM

ballsymchugh wrote: »

i wonder how much the hometovote campaign made a difference? it kinda grinds my gears that people who live abroad for a while think that they've become so sophisticated that they feel the need to come home and show how things should be, when we're able to manage fine, thanks.

especially the ones about to go back to 18th century brexit britain.

The actual numbers that came back to vote only increased the margin of victory, they wouldn't have swung the result as the majority is going to be significantly higher. I think where it might have made some difference is that people here who may not have voted would have seen those coming home to vote and decided that if those people were going to go to that effort to vote then I really have no excuse not to myself. Again, although harder to quantify, I don't think that would have been a factor by itself that would have changed the result.

Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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