Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

ChikiChiki

All for abortion in cases where the mothers life is in danger, the foetus has a low chance of survival in the womb, rape and incest cases.

Completly against abortion as a means of contraception. Admittedly I've been very ignorant of the debate being abroad but will people who just decide they don't want to have a child whether it be from a mistake, not finacially independent or otherwise just be able to get an abortion on tap?

SusieBlue

The Golden Miller wrote: »

It had support to repeal for the hard cases, we got abortion for any reason until 12 weeks thrown in for free on top of that

No legislation has been agreed. The question was to repeal or retain. The support speaks for itself.

storker

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

From here on in I can see parents being judged for bringing children with Down Syndrome, spina bifida or any other congenital disorder into this world.

The polls closed three hours ago. It's OK to toggle the Henny Penny Mode switch to off now.



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hatrickpatrick

freshpopcorn wrote: »

If it did end up being No now it would be a little like finding a nice piece of jewelry in your partners pocket on Christmas Eve and then getting socks on Christmas morning!

Kinda like the jubilant feeling going to bed on the night that the Conservatives lost their majority in the UK elections, and then subsequently waking up to the news that the feckin' DUP would be keeping them in power and indeed making some demands of their policy agenda 🙈🙈🙈

The Golden Miller

The Golden Miller wrote: »

We were, once! Now we're the biggest subservient western lapdogs you'll find, always needing to put on a "how great are we" show to the world, all for a pat on the back and for everyone to tell us how matured and progressive we are these days

Actually given how the church at the time supported British rule during the war of idependence and threatened to excommunicate most of the leaders of the then Irish army, I'd say the no side hasn't changed that much.

super_furry

It’s a crippling day for Iona and the rest of the mouth pieces who have been out in front of the media for the last few months. They’ve lived off money from the American anti-abortion groups for years now because little old Ireland was always the example they could point to and aspire too. That money’s going to stop now.

iamtony

Good job yes side! Seems like a land slide.
Hopefully the next vote is either for assisted suicide or getting religion out of schools! We should have one referendum per year I say.

martingriff

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I'd be christian myself but I voted Yes because I have no right to tell a woman what to do with her own body, I'd assume many other christians had the same view which gave us the result that is being predicted.

People like believing that everyone who voted no are all religious nuts and they all live the Iona institute as they feel religious people are inferior and to be laughted at as the alternative is to think people who they know call progressive voted for same sex marriage can vote like this. The abortion on demand part up to 12 weeks was a very emotive issue for some people

astrofool

The Golden Miller wrote: »

We were, once! Now we're the biggest subservient western lapdogs you'll find, always needing to put on a "how great are we" show to the world, all for a pat on the back and for everyone to tell us how matured and progressive we are these days

Ah now, at best we were De Valera's warped dream of Irish society, and followed the Vatican like a trained poodle, leading to wrack and ruin for everyone in the country. The old days were the bad days, there was no empire to pine for, no 60's optimism for the future, just fire and brimstone if your thoughts strayed from the Our Father and a few Hail Marys.

Jim Bob Scratcher

iamtony wrote: »

Good job yes side! Seems like a land slide.
Hopefully the next vote is either for assisted suicide or getting religion out of schools! We should have one referendum per year I say.

This is a must.

Movementarian

The Golden Miller wrote: »

It had support to repeal for the hard cases, we got abortion for any reason until 12 weeks thrown in for free on top of that

You voted no though. So you didnt support repeal for the hard cases or any cases.

The Golden Miller

Movementarian wrote: »

So you believe theres multiples or even just one woman would carry a baby up to the second trimester, not avail of the option of legal abortion in the first 12 weeks, go into the second trimester and say 'ah sod this I will fake a mental health card now'...you honestly see this as a realistic scenario?

If you genuinely think that well they you are the one with the problem and I cant help you. Maybe you need your mental health card checked.

There's many reasons. Read the link I sent you which outlines many. Is that going to be the attitude now? Bury our collective heads in the sand to the reality that healthy unborn's will be aborted in horrific fashion in the second trimester? I'd have more respect for what your saying if you just honestly admitted that you didn't really care about how they'll suffer, instead of trying to convince people it won't really happen at all

SusieBlue

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

Who's to say not? The parents will probably be called selfish for bringing a child who will have such struggle into the world and probably be a drain on state resources.

Pure speculation.
That hasn’t happened before and there’s no reason for it to happen now.
We’ve just proven how compassionate and understanding we are of other people’s choices, we aren’t about to start acting like d*ckheads for no reason.
Where did you get your crystal ball?

uptherebels

The Golden Miller wrote: »

It had support to repeal for the hard cases, we got abortion for any reason until 12 weeks thrown in for free on top of that

Looks like 12 weeks had 70 % support to me

SusieBlue

Jetstone wrote: »

That's your opinion, which is neither right nor wrong, others believe differently.

A Yes vote will now allow you to do just that.
You’re welcome.

The Golden Miller

Movementarian wrote: »

You voted no though. So you didnt support repeal for the hard cases or any cases.

I wanted an amendment, the right to life qualified and enshrined at 12 weeks, before 12 weeks whatever the consensus wanted

Kh1993

Yes from this 18-25yr old. And don’t know anyone my age that voted No.

veronymus

Jetstone wrote: »

As my wife and I will be trying for a baby soon, it puts my mind at ease that we can abort if it has down syndrome.or some other disability. It would ruin our lives to have to raise such a child.

Well you will have to travel to do so Jetstone. I hope you don't have to endure such an experience.

The Golden Miller

uptherebels wrote: »

Looks like 12 weeks had 70 % support to me

Again, are you someone willfully ignoring the point or just a bit dim?

fritzelly

The Golden Miller wrote: »

There's many reasons. Read the link I sent you which outlines many. Is that going to be the attitude now? Bury our collective heads in the sand to the reality that healthy unborn's will be aborted in horrific fashion in the second trimester? I'd have more respect for what your saying if you just honestly admitted that you didn't really care about how they'll suffer, instead of trying to convince people it won't really happen at all

The old rubbish that healthy fetuses are aborted - reality a lot would miscarry in the first 12 weeks anyway and more beyond that, others would not survive if they went full term
The stupid 97% figure

martingriff

iamtony wrote: »

Good job yes side! Seems like a land slide.
Hopefully the next vote is either for assisted suicide or getting religion out of schools! We should have one referendum per year I say.

Why do we need a referendum on religions out of schools it's not in our constitution. Not sure the result in this referendum would mean a yes for assisted suicide. Pretty emotive subject and I would not just say it would pass easily

Movementarian

ChikiChiki wrote: »

All for abortion in cases where the mothers life is in danger, the foetus has a low chance of survival in the womb, rape and incest cases.

Completly against abortion as a means of contraception. Admittedly I've been very ignorant of the debate being abroad but will people who just decide they don't want to have a child whether it be from a mistake, not finacially independent or otherwise just be able to get an abortion on tap?

No more or less than they can do right now by simply going to the UK. We have ignored this for years because it doesnt suit the 'compassion for the unborn' argument that the No side touted.

The yes vote will not change what is already the reality. People who wanted abortions before can still avail of them, people who do not (who are and will continue to be the vast majority) will not.

All we have done is finally accepted the truth and horror that we have inflicted on women for years and stepped up to the plate as a country. Ireland is better off for it and yet not different at its core because as already noted abortion is here and has been for years. We have just finally decided to be grown up about it and to protect the women of Ireland and their rights.

bodice ripper

martingriff wrote:

Why do we need a referendum on religions out of schools it's not in our constitution.

Good point. Let's get religion out of the constitution altogether.

Pac1Man

The left wins again.

The Golden Miller

fritzelly wrote: »

The old rubbish that healthy fetuses are aborted - reality a lot would miscarry in the first 12 weeks anyway and more beyond that, others would not survive if they went full term
The stupid 97% figure

Ye, that UK government link I posted is all fairy nonsense, propaganda and scaremongering. Healthy second trimester abortions don't happen, nothing to see here

uptherebels

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Again, are you someone willfully ignoring the point or just a bit dim?

What point is that? People knew it would be 12 weeks and voted overwhelmingly for it.

But I guess we all can't be as open minded as you

astrofool

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Again, are you someone willfully ignoring the point or just a bit dim?

The no campaign were at pains to say that a yes vote meant up to 12 weeks, there will be some backing out and getting those posters down quick if the vote follows the exit polls.

iamtony

martingriff wrote: »

Why do we need a referendum on religions out of schools it's not in our constitution. Not sure the result in this referendum would mean a yes for assisted suicide. Pretty emotive subject and I would not just say it would pass easily

No maybe it wouldn't pass easily but nice to put it to the people like a lot of things should.
OK we should have a referendum on wither we should ban religion teaching of any kind in the public funded schools system.

NuMarvel

martingriff wrote: »

Why do we need a referendum on religions out of schools it's not in our constitution. Not sure the result in this referendum would mean a yes for assisted suicide. Pretty emotive subject and I would not just say it would pass easily

There doesn't need to be a referendum about euthanasia. There's nothing in the constitution prohibiting it so there's nothing to change or add to the constitution in a referendum. The Oireachtas could legislate for it tomorrow if they wanted to.

Das Reich

I hope the population of knackers will be reduced now.