Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

Vlad Kelly · 26-05-2018 12:09AM

It's really amazing that the yes side won without having any decent arguments. You have to hand it to them, they ran a dishonest but very successful campaign and managed to brainwash some very naive college aged kids to vote for something as sick as abortion. It's really astonishing to see them succeed with so little on their side.

Itssoeasy · 26-05-2018 12:10AM

I'm heartened to see that the people who voted yes(which seems like a lot of the country did) aren't gloating in this thread. This vote wasn't as easy for people. It's a very emotive issue for obvious reasons. My main issue was that I felt the 8th amendment had no place in the constitution of Ireland. I think certain issues shouldn't be enshrined in a constitution.

Water John · 26-05-2018 12:10AM

Simon Coveney is fully entitled to change his mind, but he very much damaged himself by floating the notion of, a weighted majority in the Dail, for future changes. that smacked of control and was nuts.

JCX BXC · 26-05-2018 12:11AM

I think you've proved yourself partially why the yes side won, with the extreme nastiness in that post.

fritzelly · 26-05-2018 12:11AM

Not amazing, ran a truthful fact based campaign unlike the No side

Larbre34 · 26-05-2018 12:11AM

Its a bit late for that sort of deluded talk. The argument of modern healthcare and bodily autonomy for all was both decent and convincing.

You and your troll instincts will just have to live with that.

redarmy · 26-05-2018 12:12AM

bitter much?

Lady Spangles · 26-05-2018 12:12AM

I know I'm replying to some spam/sock account but what the heck: have you actually engaged your brain with the 'yes' vote? It amazes me how anyone could be so backward thinking to actually vote no. Women have always deserved bodily autonomy. Most consider it a human right.

Oh and women have fought long and hard for this, so your condescension is meaningless.

murpho999 · 26-05-2018 12:12AM

Wow.

Talk about respecting democratic decisions.

68-70% of people are brainwashed but you aren't!

Water John · 26-05-2018 12:13AM

So 70% of those who voted are, college kids????

VinLieger · 26-05-2018 12:13AM

Sure keep telling yourself that, i would love you to explain how a 69% majority is simply down to a few college kids though

highdef · 26-05-2018 12:13AM

Homosexuality was illegal until the mid 90's in Ireland....1993, to be exact!

26-05-2018 12:13AM

Yeah arguments for women's health etc are very weak, and god alone knows how the no side with all their factual posters and adverts managed to mess it up.

NeoVaradkar · 26-05-2018 12:14AM

Erm you go to Church and support abortion and are triumphant for it?.

Cant understand Church going people who support abortion.
Bible often isnt the clearest book on matters but it is forthright on killing and sanctity of life before birth.

Anyone who celebrates abortion needs to show the matter some respect. Not something to gloat over when you think about it!.

LuckyLloyd · 26-05-2018 12:15AM

Nonsense.

Exit polls indicate all age groups up to 65 voted repeal; and even 40% of the over 65 age group voted yes too. It was time, that's all it is.

Mountainsandh · 26-05-2018 12:15AM

Yes I agree.
I was impressed today in conversation with a bunch of male friends.
They had taken on board the valid No side arguments (like mistrust of politicians to legislate appropriately re-number of weeks and other restrictions), and listened to the women in their lives, as well as the Yes side. At the time we had that conversation, they hadn't voted yet, and were still mulling over what they were going to vote.

It seems to me that younger generations put a lot more thought into this than entrenched older generations.

I8A4RE · 26-05-2018 12:15AM

Hillary and the Remainers thought they won the night before too.

Ulysses Gaze · 26-05-2018 12:15AM

Have some....

bladespin · 26-05-2018 12:15AM

Sour grapes always taste sweet to the winner, really believe you need to educate yourself as to what was actually happening here.

Zaph · 26-05-2018 12:15AM

No amount of "naive college kids" was ever going to account for a near 70% vote in favour. That level of support could only have been achieved through broad support through all demographics, including people like my 75 year old mother. If you're going to troll this badly, at least have a semi-credible argument to back up your nonsense.

The Golden Miller · 26-05-2018 12:15AM

Quantify what's pretty standard? Are you saying second trimester abortions aren't happening? In the UK in 2016, there were about 190,000 abortions, 92% taking place before 13 weeks. So circa 8% of 190,000, which is alot to get ripped limb from limb. So accounting for population difference, we're about 1/10th the size of the UK, factoring those in the north crossing the border. 2000 approximately? Not including week 12-13 from figures of: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/679028/Abortions_stats_England_Wales_2016.pdf

2,000, many to get ripped limb from limb per year, is alot for me

murpho999 · 26-05-2018 12:15AM

Yes so in the mid eighties it was illegal, like I said.

Lady Spangles · 26-05-2018 12:17AM

At the end of the day, even "college kids" have rights and they know how to exercise them. OP was still utterly wrong, though.

PurvesGrundy · 26-05-2018 12:17AM

No doubt money was behind the Yes campaign. The government are probably in cahoots with Denis O'Brien to set up Ireland's first private abortion clinic.

tigger123 · 26-05-2018 12:17AM

F*cking lol.

Leroy42 · 26-05-2018 12:17AM

Where in the bible? Because the bible of lots of killing in it, God even arranged for the torture and killing of his own son.

wexie · 26-05-2018 12:18AM

Doesn't really matter anymore though does it, just let them to their bitching and moaning. It's done now, it's over.

Yay!!!

Infini · 26-05-2018 12:18AM

Actually thats the NO campaign your describing but w/e I got a video that describes that!

26-05-2018 12:18AM

Does this mean all those wasters on those bridges over the N11 in Foxrock/Stillorgan/UCD at 7:30am each morning (still there at 6:30pm) will go away and find some work like real people have to?

It really pisses me off that these complete tossers and their stupid rightwing/liberal ideology and jejune know-it-all-teenager certainties about life are screaming at working people telling them how to vote while we go off and finance these wasters in "education" and layaboutery generally with our taxes. 'Honk your horn', my arse. Get a job.

I look forward to all that right-on passionate campaigning being put into the much greater disaster that is our health system and all its extraordinary injustices against poor people (including deaths from misdiagnosis, waiting lists and so much else), or homeless people or, you know, a whole raft of things that might affect the pockets of our ultra economically conservative Irish Times-reading "liberals". I've yet to meet an economically leftwing Irish "liberal" who'll aim for social justice in society rather than some middle class "right".

SteelyDanJalapeno · 26-05-2018 12:19AM

Could the no sign have a plan to lie in the exit polls?

Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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