Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

Galwayguy35

NeoVaradkar wrote: »

Why even bother going to a Christian based Church if you dont believe in any of its values?.

Never find a Muslim doing such mind.

I'd be christian myself but I voted Yes because I have no right to tell a woman what to do with her own body, I'd assume many other christians had the same view which gave us the result that is being predicted.

Spanish Eyes

The Iona Institute was always a shadowy thing. But we all knew their views but not their funding really.

They will survive I am sure with fundie funding for the next big thing, but there is nothing left for them to fight for now. If there is, what is it?

A good redundancy package? Sorry now.....

hatrickpatrick

bodice ripper wrote: »

And screening for the troll gene will be along soon, so there's that...

People should think long and hard about how boring a world without internet trolls to kill time arguing with would actually be. Like, people might end up having to actually do some work on Friday afternoons when the sun is shining and they're waiting for it to be socially acceptable to feck off out of the office and into the offie.

#ProtectTheTrolls #TrollLivesMatter #LoveTrolls #RepealTheRepealment

_Dara_

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

The no side ran a very emotional campaign and in some cases used very disturbing images of dead foetuses which I think backfired badly.

My friend was back in Ireland on holiday with her English husband who is very conservative a few weeks ago. He was shocked, SHOCKED at those graphic posters. I think they were a big swing-and-a-miss for the No campaign.

freshpopcorn

If it did end up being No now it would be a little like finding a nice piece of jewelry in your partners pocket on Christmas Eve and then getting socks on Christmas morning!

NeoVaradkar

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Off topic I know but what does the word IONA mean?

I pass a house and it's called IONA and whilst she goes to mass she's being divorced, remarries, had more kids, etc.

Its a Scottish island. Name in Irish too.

Zaph

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

I wonder if TheLiberal.ie will bother reporting the result. After the marriage equality referendum, they didn't bother. After months of poorly-written opinion pieces, all shat out by Leo Sherlock himself, but purporting to be from young women, teachers, mothers, etc... when the result was announced, he just pretended it hadn't happened.

They'll report the result as a huge victory for the no side, a bit like how North Korea have won the last 6 World Cups.

gmisk

_Dara_ wrote: »

I don’t know if I’m totally off-base here but does anyone else think that Brexit and Trump’s election were influential in that they highlighted the dangers of complacency and the importance of getting off your arse and voting? They were both big historical landmarks and I think they have left an impression.

You could well be right

The Irish people didn't fall for the BS, fake ads, rhetoric and looked at the human stories and voted for the compassionate and decent option.

_Dara_

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Not subtle

My thoughts too, wha’?

Atlantic Dawn

For the last 25 years I have wanted to vote Yes purely to annoy those out and out utter scumbags who put posters of dead foetii outside the GPO most weekends, such utter out and out scum that should have been arrested for obscene publications but the church angle kept the law away, bloody disgrace of a kip to live in, change is good.

Ardent

Gatling wrote: »

Was in the city centre most of the day ,big yes campaign presence from Henry st to st Stephens green and Grafton at

Saw one granny with a small no badge

Same. The Yes side was out in force in the city centre. Incidentally, saw a bunch of No campaigners get the finger from various women on O'Connell St!

PurvesGrundy

freshpopcorn wrote: »

If it did end up being No now it would be a little like finding a nice piece of jewelry in your partners pocket on Christmas Eve and then getting socks on Christmas morning!

Would you really want to be listening to the outcry from college students and Starbucks millennial's though?

We would probably only be asked to vote again.

fritzelly

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

For the last 25 years I have wanted to vote Yes purely to annoy those out and out utter scumbags who put posters of dead foetii outside the GPO most weekends, such utter out and out scum that should have been arrested for obscene publications but the church angle kept the law away, bloody disgrace of a kip to live in, change is good.

I'm sure they'll be back there again next week

Found it funny the other day coming back from work that the Yes side had all women and a few young guys canvassing O'Connell St while the No campaign was pretty much all old men - if anything made people go for yes it was being told by greying and balding men telling them to vote no and women of all ages saying to vote yes

Spanish Eyes

People do not like to be TOLD what to do, or observe or obey in this country. We are rebels!

Iona always gave me the creeps TBH. I could never understand why they existed when we have bishops priests and nuns all over the place. Something about them....but that maybe just me.

The Golden Miller

Movementarian wrote: »

Mental health card....I wonder if you even hear yourself.

So not only do you not trust Irish women, after all they could play this mental health card right now in the UK if they wantes to, but you also dont trust two medical practitioners to make the right medical decision.

You keep saying others arent informed but I jave to say of all the posters here its you who seems this least informed to me.

Do you believe all cases of second trimester abortions, that happen under the guise of mental health, are genuine? I know it suits you to try and avert what I'm saying with this "he doesn't believe in mental health" rhetoric, and that's what the yes side did all along in this campaign, but the reality still stands, abortions of healthy unborn's in the second trimester will happen. Their horrific suffering will all be "scaremongering" and pictures of it will all be "propaganda", because none of it will ever happen, right?

SusieBlue

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

From here on in I can see parents being judged for bringing children with Down Syndrome, spina bifida or any other congenital disorder into this world.

No they absolutely will not. Absolute hyperbole.

storker

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'm not suggesting that anyone isn't entitled to their opinion, I'd just love to see more people being transparent and honest about it.

This. I often get impatient with the No side during debates, not so much because I disagree with them - disagreement I can handle - but because most of their arguments are decoys behind which is hiding the one big one: God Sez.

I firmly believe that even if it could be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that abortion was indeed a fix for mental illness, that women would never feel any regret for abortions later in life, that healthcare was better under where abortion was available, that the availability of abortions would mean that less abortions would take place and that a 12-week old fetus has zero awareness of anything, they would still be against it. Because God. This is THE reason. Everything else is just smoke.



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freshpopcorn

freshpopcorn wrote: »

If it did end up being No now it would be a little like finding a nice piece of jewelry in your partners pocket on Christmas Eve and then getting socks on Christmas morning!

True hence why until I get the official result I won't hold my breath, but it's nice to see the reaction of some of the no side and the trolls on here tonight and the way their carrying on to the exit polls

Kh1993

Up the republic. For whatever reason McGuirk (perennial loser), Steen, Iona Institute, Libertas have this easy access to state media, yet they represent a small minority. Wish they’d f**k off into oblivion.

storker

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

People do not like to be TOLD what to do, or observe or obey in this country. We are rebels!

Iona always gave me the creeps TBH. I could never understand why they existed when we have bishops priests and nuns all over the place. Something about them....but that maybe just me.

Nope. Definitely not just you.



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The Golden Miller

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

People do not like to be TOLD what to do, or observe or obey in this country. We are rebels!

Iona always gave me the creeps TBH. I could never understand why they existed when we have bishops priests and nuns all over the place. Something about them....but that maybe just me.

We were, once! Now we're the biggest subservient western lapdogs you'll find, always needing to put on a "how great are we" show to the world, all for a pat on the back and for everyone to tell us how matured and progressive we are these days

SusieBlue

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

Would you really want to be listening to the outcry from college students and Starbucks millennial's though?

We would probably only be asked to vote again.

The college students and millennial didn’t swing this vote.
It had support across the board from all age groups and demographics. Clearly many of the ‘undecided’ and ‘not saying’ voters were silent Yesses.
Please feel free to tell yourself whatever lies necessary to deal with the fact that Ireland is changing and is all the better for it.

realitykeeper

bodice ripper wrote: »

And kill the first born sons to punish a man who you already made to act against you.

That is God`s prerogative. You are not God.

PurvesGrundy

SusieBlue wrote: »

No they absolutely will not. Absolute hyperbole.

Who's to say not? The parents will probably be called selfish for bringing a child who will have such struggle into the world and probably be a drain on state resources.

Spanish Eyes

AAAAAnd the fight back begins from the No side.

But if yes wins tomorrow it will be a good day for free thinkers. And there are so many around who will not be told how to think, how to behave, what to vote for, or anything anymore.

I think this will be a coming of age for this country at long last.

Anyway who or what is Iona and what the feck are they doing for the good of this country?

Movementarian

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Do you believe all cases of second trimester abortions, that happen under the guise of mental health, are genuine. I know it suits you to try and avert what I'm saying with this "he doesn't believe in mental health" rhetoric, and that's what the yes side did all along in this campaign, but the reality still stands, abortions of healthy unborn's in the second trimester will happen. Their horrific suffering will all be "scaremongering" and pictures of it will all be "propaganda", because none of it will ever happen, right?

So you believe theres multiples or even just one woman would carry a baby up to the second trimester, not avail of the option of legal abortion in the first 12 weeks, go into the second trimester and say 'ah sod this I will fake a mental health card now'...you honestly see this as a realistic scenario?

If you genuinely think that well they you are the one with the problem and I cant help you. Maybe you need your mental health card checked.

The Golden Miller

SusieBlue wrote: »

The college students and millennial didn’t swing this vote.
It had support across the board from all age groups and demographics. Clearly many of the ‘undecided’ and ‘not saying’ voters were silent Yesses.
Please feel free to tell yourself whatever lies necessary to deal with the fact that Ireland is changing and is all the better for it.

It had support to repeal for the hard cases, we got abortion for any reason until 12 weeks thrown in for free on top of that

Jim Bob Scratcher

fritzelly wrote: »

I'm sure they'll be back there again next week

Found it funny the other day coming back from work that the Yes side had all women and a few young guys canvassing O'Connell St while the No campaign was pretty much all old men - if anything made people go for yes it was being told by greying and balding men telling them to vote no and women of all ages saying to vote yes

Not really, you were just hypnotized by the boobies

Movementarian

Jetstone wrote: »

Telling people they can't masturbate in public is telling them what to do with their body.

It really isnt. Telling them they cant masturbate full stop would be. Your arguments are just plain wrong.

bodice ripper

realitykeeper wrote:

That is God`s prerogative. You are not God.

Nor is anyone else.