car hit crowd in Germany

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I was in Germany a couple of months ago (Munich). There was a Pegida Rally at one of the busiest parts of the city. When I first seen it I thought "here we go, things are gonna kick off". I walked around the city and passed it by again a few hours later. There was nobody opposing it, none of the usual counter protests etc, just a handful of passers-by stopping to listen to what was said. I think the Germans are starting to realise what is on the horizon.

Hopefully !

But it's too late anyway, they are here.

Imagine in the next generation when these people have an average of 5/6 kids !!!


ha !!

Goodbye Europe

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Sorry watching the ****ing Golf i see all you apologists prayers were answered and you come crawling back onto the thread to gloat but I bet you were worried there for a while it had all the hallmarks of your typical western hating Jihadist! Btw just to bring you back down to earth it’s the one year anniversary of the Stockholm
https://twitter.com/petersweden7/status/982703138942717952?s=21

Chapter 4 - When narrative is in trouble, double down.

If the incident has nothing to do with Islam or immigration make sure to try and move the narrative towards past attacks or talk about how violence is an integral part of Islam itself. At this point it is vital to completely ignore the current incident and victims. Do not acknowledge their existence. If necessary, use pictures of previous crime scenes or past victims of Islamic terrorism in an attempt to evoke emotional response. Call everyone who disagrees with you an apologist or left wing liberal. Accuse them of having blood on their hands. Talk about flood gates and open borders as much as possible.

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Sorry watching the ****ing Golf i see all you apologists prayers were answered and you come crawling back onto the thread to gloat but I bet you were worried there for a while it had all the hallmarks of your typical western hating Jihadist! Btw just to bring you back down to earth it’s the one year anniversary of the Stockholm
https://twitter.com/petersweden7/status/982703138942717952?s=21

Ah so when you're caught out, then resort to emotional statements to try and reassert your beliefs.

My opinion. Catch any terrorist and burn them at the stake.

Sand wrote: »

There's a story today in the BBC that 9 men have been arrested in the Derby area on suspicion of conspiracy to commit sexual activity with a child. Its normal now that there are gangs of men in UK towns conspiring to rape kids.

Between the start of 2015 and the end of 2017 349 people have been killed and 1,670 people injured in Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe. Its normal now that armed soldiers must patrol European streets, and barriers must be erected to protect pedestrians from murderous truck attacks.

It would be nice if people advocating for mass immigration into Europe were big enough to admit their mistake.

I'm not contesting that there is a massive massive issue with terrorism growing in Europe. It's a simple fact.

I do contest that mass immigration to the EU is the root cause. The root cause is, and always has been, the constant wars in the Middle East and invasions from the US and UK to Iraq and Afghanistan in 2001 which have caused the rise of ISIS.

Thousands of civilians have been murdered by the US and various EU militaries, which has worked as the ideal propaganda to recruit and brainwash people into joining these terrorist groups.

Immigration to the EU has been going on for decades, I grew up in London in the 80's with a massive background of friends from across the world.

Let's not pretend that there have been no groups of white people involved in the abuse of children, and again, my opinion is that they get burnt at the stake, no matter their nationality. Burn them alive.

Sonics2k wrote: »

I'm not contesting that there is a massive massive issue with terrorism growing in Europe. It's a simple fact.

Its not just naturally growing in Europe though. The conditions for further terrorism and further sexual attacks on women and children are being created in Europe. Being generous I would say unwittingly, but we've been doing this for 70 years and at some point the evidence gets too overwhelming for that interpretation to still be credible. What we can say for certainty is that point scoring on forums isnt helping.

I do contest that mass immigration to the EU is the root cause. The root cause is, and always has been, the constant wars in the Middle East and invasions from the US and UK to Iraq and Afghanistan in 2001 which have caused the rise of ISIS.

Thousands of civilians have been murdered by the US and various EU militaries, which has worked as the ideal propaganda to recruit and brainwash people into joining these terrorist groups.

If your hypothesis was correct, countries like Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovenia and so on would be seeing just as much impact from their alliance with the US and participation in their wars. But they don't.

Spain, which briefly did join the coalition of the willing, but very publicly withdrew does see massive terrorist attacks, the most recent being just last year when a man drove a truck into pedestrians, killing 13 and wounding 170. France got into a very public conflict with the US over the Iraq war but they get absolutely hammered with terrorist attacks.

The level of mass immigration into a country from outside Europe has a far higher correlation to these sorts of attacks than participation in America's wars.

Secondly, your hypothesis might, might arguably address violent terrorism, but do you think its credible that the Rotherham grooming gang, or the Algerian men who raped that woman in Czech Republic were motivated by the Iraq war? That it was part of an even semi-organised response? There are better explanations for what Europe is seeing having permitted 70 years of mass migration.

The real question is, having surveyed the outcomes of the past 70 years who wants another 70 years of mass immigration?

Immigration to the EU has been going on for decades, I grew up in London in the 80's with a massive background of friends from across the world.

Let's not pretend that there have been no groups of white people involved in the abuse of children, and again, my opinion is that they get burnt at the stake, no matter their nationality. Burn them alive.

Yes, it has been going on for decades and the outcome for Europeans has not been good has it? Why continue it?

vicwatson wrote: »

It’s weird how the German authorities, and media, seem to have a tendency towards keeping things quiet, I’m thinking cologne rapes and sexual assaults in Dec/Jan 2015/2016, they kept their mouths shut for minimum 4 days until the police reports got to such a large extent they had no choice but to report on it/make statements on the attacks.

Yesterday took the biscuit......
First it was a potential terror attack with police stating the driver was German but may have converted, 2 men jumped out of the van before it hit its target.

Then Merkels men from LKA,BKA and so on got into the picture and it was a mentally ill German man and definately not terror related. At the same;

1. Check points were put in place far beyond Münster on motorways, B roads......to look for accomplices

2. His flat and family home in the Sauerland were searched by heavily armed police, reports that in Münster of a small explosion (controlled), within his flat they found an AK47 (later it was a good copy/toy), a collection of illegal bangers which could have been used to make something bigger and a strangely large amount of wire.

3. They evacuated all resisdents around the area and only allowed them back to their flats/houses from 2:30 ish this morning with a police escort.

4. A number of videos are on facebook showing numerous north African looking people being stopped and searched at gun point within Münsters city.

If it was clear within hours of the attack that it was all OK and the man was just mentally ill why all of the above???

For me it all smells like March last year when a mentally ill man attacked people within Düsseldorf train station.....he was also mentally ill. Some weeks/months later as it all got to a very hush hush court case....he was Muslim from Wupperthal (same place they went looking after the attack on the BVB team bus, at the point that they believed it was terror related)...but mentally ill. They also never answered the question to who attacked an elderly man the following day with an axe in similar attack in a forest close to Düsseldorf Airport.

Main point is.....Merkels Germany has no problems with immigrants. What did she say recently.....Islam is part of Germany!!!

Yamanoto wrote: »

The current open borders policy not only flies in the face of common sense, it's a real recipe for trouble for all who'll call this place home a generation or two down the line.

Which open border policy are you referring to? Are you referring to an actual policy? I'm not aware of any country in the EU that does not police external EU borders and simply allows anyone who wants to come in.

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Which open border policy are you referring to? Are you referring to an actual policy? I'm not aware of any country in the EU that does not police external EU borders and simply allows anyone who wants to come in.

Have you been living in a bubble for the last 24 months.....the EU cannot control the arrival of these people, hence operations in the Med, eastern borders and countries like Hungary building phyical borders to keep them out. As it stands....refugees should stay in the area where they have first contact within the EU...however they are moving freely from Hungary, Romania, Greece and Italy....thanks to Merkels you are all welcome statement. Can you name a primary school in Ireland where most class´ are 95% refugee/immgrants and the kids have to learn the language before they can take part in normal lessons. Or where school kids as young as 8-9 are having their bags checked entering and leaving school.....weapons, theft..being the main reason.

Reality really hasnt hit home in Ireland......island mentality...sure its not as bad as the people living with it day in day out make out.

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Have you been living in a bubble for the last 24 months.....the EU cannot control the arrival of these people, hence operations in the Med, eastern borders and countries like Hungary building phyical borders to keep them out. As it stands....refugees should stay in the area where they have first contact within the EU..

Given that these states are part of a co-operative union, do you think that it's sustainable that Greece and Italy carry that burden all by theirselves?

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Or where school kids as young as 8-9 are having their bags checked entering and leaving school.....weapons, theft..being the main reason..

You might fill that out with a few specific examples....

https://www.bild.de/news/2018/news/news-eilmeldung-halbmarathon-terror-berlin-55328742.bild.html

One day later German police prevent a terror attack on the Berlin Half Maraton!!!!! 4 lads planning to attack and kill people with knives...
Funny how they claim the ones they prevent are terror attacks!!!

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

No I do not think it is ok for Italy or Greece to carry the burden (which they are not as they are receiving more than enough EU funding to deal with the problem). However do you think its OK to allow these people move freely within the EU without proper registration, identity or nationality checks???? Look at the clown who carried out the stabbing in Dundalk at the start of the year.....they still dont know where he is from!!!

No, its not right, but they can't wander round without citizenship of an EU country, afaik, unless they do so illegally.

Skylinehead wrote: »

Mod: Why is this thread about immigration? Back on topic. Which as far as I can tell is nothing to do with immigration.

Deleted some shite.

Eh why was this post in response to sonics2k about standing up for assertion that this attack was Islamic terrorism deleted?
Or are only certain opinions allowed around here?
If someone lays down a challenge then why can't users reply with a counter argument.

Right let's see a vehicle driven at pedestrians in crowded area of European urban area. Not where have I seen that before?
Oh yeah Nice, Berlin, London, Stockholm, Paris, Barcelona.
And what have all those in common?
Well the person were Muslim and they died.
Now there has been one incident of aright winger doing this but it was outside mosque so pretty footing obvious.
So forgive some of just for jumping to conclusions when this bears hallmarks of a Muslim fundamentalist attack.
Just like most people will assume the same the next time a priest is decapitated, a Jewish school is attacked or a soldier has his throat hacked opene in the streets.