Several people have been killed and injured after a car hit a crowd in Germany, according to police. Spiegel Online reported that a car drove into a group of people in the western German city of Muenster today, killing several and injuring others. A security source said it cannot rule out that the incident may be an attack.
Snake Plisken wrote: » Sorry watching the ****ing Golf i see all you apologists prayers were answered and you come crawling back onto the thread to gloat but I bet you were worried there for a while it had all the hallmarks of your typical western hating Jihadist! Btw just to bring you back down to earth it’s the one year anniversary of the Stockholmhttps://twitter.com/petersweden7/status/982703138942717952?s=21
Sand wrote: » There's a story today in the BBC that 9 men have been arrested in the Derby area on suspicion of conspiracy to commit sexual activity with a child. Its normal now that there are gangs of men in UK towns conspiring to rape kids. Between the start of 2015 and the end of 2017 349 people have been killed and 1,670 people injured in Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe. Its normal now that armed soldiers must patrol European streets, and barriers must be erected to protect pedestrians from murderous truck attacks. It would be nice if people advocating for mass immigration into Europe were big enough to admit their mistake.
Richard Hillman wrote: » I was in Germany a couple of months ago (Munich). There was a Pegida Rally at one of the busiest parts of the city. When I first seen it I thought "here we go, things are gonna kick off". I walked around the city and passed it by again a few hours later. There was nobody opposing it, none of the usual counter protests etc, just a handful of passers-by stopping to listen to what was said. I think the Germans are starting to realise what is on the horizon.
Irishmale0399 wrote: » Wouldnt jump to conclusions........German Police are still looking for 2 accomplices in all of NRW, bordering Holland and the city center of Münster is still on lock down with residents being taken to local school halls. Local radio had it as a terror attack within an hour of it happening from local police sources. It was then changed to a mentally ill person once senior officers arrived from Düsseldorf and Merkels men got directly involved. All smells very similar to the excuses given for the axe attacks in Düsseldorf in March last year by the same cops.....there they told us it wasnt terror related until it got to a very low key court hearing where it was admitted that the lad was indeed muslim and attended a mosque run by Salafist muslims.
Snake Plisken wrote: » Get ready for the supporters of the peaceful religion Islam to keep away from this thread for a few days and then appear when things die down to come back on the thread and accuse us of being racist about a religion!
Sonics2k wrote: » my opinion is that they get burnt at the stake, no matter their nationality. Burn them alive.
Sonics2k wrote: » I'm not contesting that there is a massive massive issue with terrorism growing in Europe. It's a simple fact.
I do contest that mass immigration to the EU is the root cause. The root cause is, and always has been, the constant wars in the Middle East and invasions from the US and UK to Iraq and Afghanistan in 2001 which have caused the rise of ISIS. Thousands of civilians have been murdered by the US and various EU militaries, which has worked as the ideal propaganda to recruit and brainwash people into joining these terrorist groups.
Immigration to the EU has been going on for decades, I grew up in London in the 80's with a massive background of friends from across the world. Let's not pretend that there have been no groups of white people involved in the abuse of children, and again, my opinion is that they get burnt at the stake, no matter their nationality. Burn them alive.
Sand wrote: » Its not just naturally growing in Europe though. The conditions for further terrorism and further sexual attacks on women and children are being created in Europe. Being generous I would say unwittingly, but we've been doing this for 70 years and at some point the evidence gets too overwhelming for that interpretation to still be credible. What we can say for certainty is that point scoring on forums isnt helping. If your hypothesis was correct, countries like Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovenia and so on would be seeing just as much impact from their alliance with the US and participation in their wars. But they don't. Spain, which briefly did join the coalition of the willing, but very publicly withdrew does see massive terrorist attacks, the most recent being just last year when a man drove a truck into pedestrians, killing 13 and wounding 170. France got into a very public conflict with the US over the Iraq war but they get absolutely hammered with terrorist attacks. The level of mass immigration into a country from outside Europe has a far higher correlation to these sorts of attacks than participation in America's wars. Secondly, your hypothesis might, might arguably address violent terrorism, but do you think its credible that the Rotherham grooming gang, or the Algerian men who raped that woman in Czech Republic were motivated by the Iraq war? That it was part of an even semi-organised response? There are better explanations for what Europe is seeing having permitted 70 years of mass migration. The real question is, having surveyed the outcomes of the past 70 years who wants another 70 years of mass immigration? Yes, it has been going on for decades and the outcome for Europeans has not been good has it? Why continue it?
Sonics2k wrote: » Ah so when you're caught out, then resort to emotional statements to try and reassert your beliefs. My opinion. Catch any terrorist and burn them at the stake. I'm not contesting that there is a massive massive issue with terrorism growing in Europe. It's a simple fact. I do contest that mass immigration to the EU is the root cause. The root cause is, and always has been, the constant wars in the Middle East and invasions from the US and UK to Iraq and Afghanistan in 2001 which have caused the rise of ISIS. Thousands of civilians have been murdered by the US and various EU militaries, which has worked as the ideal propaganda to recruit and brainwash people into joining these terrorist groups. Immigration to the EU has been going on for decades, I grew up in London in the 80's with a massive background of friends from across the world. Let's not pretend that there have been no groups of white people involved in the abuse of children, and again, my opinion is that they get burnt at the stake, no matter their nationality. Burn them alive.
Captain Obvious wrote: » Chapter 4 - When narrative is in trouble, double down. If the incident has nothing to do with Islam or immigration make sure to try and move the narrative towards past attacks or talk about how violence is an integral part of Islam itself. At this point it is vital to completely ignore the current incident and victims. Do not acknowledge their existence. If necessary, use pictures of previous crime scenes or past victims of Islamic terrorism in an attempt to evoke emotional response. Call everyone who disagrees with you an apologist or left wing liberal. Accuse them of having blood on their hands. Talk about flood gates and open borders as much as possible.
vicwatson wrote: » It’s weird how the German authorities, and media, seem to have a tendency towards keeping things quiet, I’m thinking cologne rapes and sexual assaults in Dec/Jan 2015/2016, they kept their mouths shut for minimum 4 days until the police reports got to such a large extent they had no choice but to report on it/make statements on the attacks.
Sonics2k wrote: » Immigration to the EU has been going on for decades, I grew up in London in the 80's with a massive background of friends from across the world.
Yamanoto wrote: » The current open borders policy not only flies in the face of common sense, it's a real recipe for trouble for all who'll call this place home a generation or two down the line.
Captain Obvious wrote: » Which open border policy are you referring to? Are you referring to an actual policy? I'm not aware of any country in the EU that does not police external EU borders and simply allows anyone who wants to come in.
Graces7 wrote: » All mine over there are safe, thank God As for the prevalence of mental illness these days? They closed down the big mental hospitals in so many countries because of cost. Takes a lot to get someone confined now . Seeing the evil fruits of this
Irishmale0399 wrote: » Have you been living in a bubble for the last 24 months.....the EU cannot control the arrival of these people, hence operations in the Med, eastern borders and countries like Hungary building phyical borders to keep them out. As it stands....refugees should stay in the area where they have first contact within the EU...however they are moving freely from Hungary, Romania, Greece and Italy....thanks to Merkels you are all welcome statement. Can you name a primary school in Ireland where most class´ are 95% refugee/immgrants and the kids have to learn the language before they can take part in normal lessons. Or where school kids as young as 8-9 are having their bags checked entering and leaving school.....weapons, theft..being the main reason. Reality really hasnt hit home in Ireland......island mentality...sure its not as bad as the people living with it day in day out make out.
Irishmale0399 wrote: » Have you been living in a bubble for the last 24 months.....the EU cannot control the arrival of these people, hence operations in the Med, eastern borders and countries like Hungary building phyical borders to keep them out. As it stands....refugees should stay in the area where they have first contact within the EU..
Irishmale0399 wrote: » Or where school kids as young as 8-9 are having their bags checked entering and leaving school.....weapons, theft..being the main reason..
Captain Obvious wrote: » The poster referred to an open border policy. I'm just looking to know which policy has this policy of open borders.
Odhinn wrote: » You might fill that out with a few specific examples....
Odhinn wrote: » Given that these states are part of a co-operative union, do you think that it's sustainable that Greece and Italy carry that burden all by theirselves?
Irishmale0399 wrote: » No I do not think it is ok for Italy or Greece to carry the burden (which they are not as they are receiving more than enough EU funding to deal with the problem). However do you think its OK to allow these people move freely within the EU without proper registration, identity or nationality checks???? Look at the clown who carried out the stabbing in Dundalk at the start of the year.....they still dont know where he is from!!!
Skylinehead wrote: » Mod: Why is this thread about immigration? Back on topic. Which as far as I can tell is nothing to do with immigration.