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Fire at Metro Hotel in Ballymun

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭muckbrien


    Mahony0509 wrote: »
    Seeing on twitter that it's after spreading over 6 floors.

    Someone has fkd up then or regulations are poor

    The fire brigade should be able to enter the affected room and extinguish the fire using a water outlet in the hall area .

    Afaik they shouldn't even need tall appliances outside


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭HONKEY TONK


    How old is the building? No sprinklers?

    I was wondering the same. Old news says the project started in 2006 but I’m not sure if it was built or renovated as it say it was a hotel under a different name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    How old is the building? No sprinklers?

    It was completed in 2007 by Pierse contracting and a group of investors, its 15 floors in height.

    The hotel was sold in 2014.

    I don't know if the hotel has sprinklers but I would imagine it has a Fire Detection alarm system and evacuation system in place .

    Used to be the Days 3 star hotel and it was a new build.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    kravmaga wrote: »
    It was completed in 2007 by Pierse contracting and a group of investors, its 15 floors in height.

    The hotel was sold in 2014.

    I don't know if the hotel has sprinklers but I would imagine it has a Fire Detection alarm system and evacuation system in place .

    Used to be the Days 3 star hotel and it was a new build.

    I know for sure the apartments beside it have sprinklers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Residential / hotel use and over 30m high, sprinklers would be mandatory


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,254 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Just passed it about 10 mins ago and it's very visibly on fire. Hope there's no injuries or fatalities.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    The rubbish shoots were the way out if there had of been a big fire in the towers

    IIRC they were only a small skuttle doors at best opening 10"s and I deffo remember there were no handles up the refuse shutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    There's a chopper flying over there now that I'd guess one of the TV stations hired.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭joegriffinjnr


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    There's a chopper flying over there now that I'd guess one of the TV stations hired.

    Garda


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,301 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    The planning ref. is 1052/03 but no documents seem to be uploaded other than the grant permission notice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭muckbrien


    kravmaga wrote: »
    It was completed in 2007 by Pierse contracting and a group of investors, its 15 floors in height.

    The hotel was sold in 2014.

    I don't know if the hotel has sprinklers but I would imagine it has a Fire Detection alarm system and evacuation system in place .

    Used to be the Days 3 star hotel and it was a new build.

    That's a whole other can of worms too

    Fire spreading and everyone being evacuated by alarm

    None of that should be happening ideally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    sdanseo wrote: »
    The planning ref. is 1052/03 but no documents seem to be uploaded other than the grant permission notice.

    Planning would be silent on fire cert - they’re maintained at Dublin City fire brigade in Townsend street. Be interested to see if there’s a reference to a sprinkler system in the planning application.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Mark Henderson


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    There's a chopper flying over there now that I'd guess one of the TV stations hired.

    Haha. This isn't America. It's the Gardai helicopter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    The rubbish shoots were the way out if there had of been a big fire in the towers

    the way out for people?? are you mental?:eek:


    What saved the flats many many times was that they were bare, thick concrete that made it difficult for a blaze to spread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Great_one


    No they wouldn’t.

    Ya day wood


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Garda

    No it didn't look like one of theirs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭HONKEY TONK


    Just looked at the photo gallery on the website.

    I see fire detection systems in the rooms bot no sprinklers as far as I could see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭HONKEY TONK


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Residential / hotel use and over 30m high, sprinklers would be mandatory

    Can you post a link to that as I’ve been checking everywhere for that information


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭AGC


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    No it didn't look like one of theirs.

    Didn’t think anything else would be going up after dark? Or allowed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Haha. This isn't America. It's the Gardai helicopter.

    Wait and see which station has footage from a chopper so.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,935 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Grenfell now on Sky News (Youtube), hope nothing similar here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,498 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    Wait and see which station has footage from a chopper so.

    TV3 can barely afford to put petrol in cars, and RTE aren't going to bother their arses crossing the liffey so who do you suggest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    Wait and see which station has footage from a chopper so.

    They’re all finished for the night. The Irish ones anyway. Maybe sky.


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Video just posted of what looks like a family still in a room 2-3 floors below. Would like to believe it's entirely empty

    Seriously? Wonder if video is from hours ago when fire just started?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Can you post a link to that as I’ve been checking everywhere for that information

    https://www.nsai.ie/Our-Services-(1)/Standardization-(1)/2017-Standards-Promotion/201712-NSAI-FSS-Seminar-CB.aspx

    Slide no 10. Would also be in part B of the technical guidance documents (fire)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,398 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Seem to be getting it under control going by images on Twitter. Looks like firefighters inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Just looked at the photo gallery on the website.

    I see fire detection systems in the rooms bot no sprinklers as far as I could see.

    Most likely sprinklers on escape routes only. Bedrooms most likely to have one hour fire rated walls from room to room and room to corridor


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,490 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Few brazzers gone offline tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭jimmy180sx


    I see fire detection systems in the rooms bot no sprinklers as far as I could see.


    Sprinklers will likely be in corridors on escape routes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    TV3 can barely afford to put petrol in cars, and RTE aren't going to bother their arses crossing the liffey so who do you suggest?

    Rte can pay what they like to send people anywhere at your expense.


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