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Clonskeagh Mosque - Homeless

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    #32
    Collie D
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    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    What do the mosque's neighbours think of this gesture? How many people does it have planning permission to accommodate?

    Would take a pretty heartless council to stop them. The place is quite big, the main prayer hall could sleep hundreds comfortably. And there are other rooms off it if there is some kind of religious rule banning sleeping in the main section.


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    #33
    The_Kew_Tour
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    well done to them for opening up.

    Deserve praise and credit where it's due. Respect.

    better then some of our buck's in Government right now. not that they care


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    #34
    maudgonner
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    January wrote: »
    Sorry let me rephrase it. I know Catholic organisations do run centres and soup runs etc and fabulous work they do too.

    I'm talking about them opening the doors of the churches themselves in local communities in times of crisis such as ophelia and when there are severe weather warnings in place.


    A quick Google found that St Patrick's Church in Belfast did just that. I'm sure there were other examples.


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    #35
    RayM
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    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    Any chance of a beer and a rasher sandwich?

    Imagine being the kind of person who, upon hearing about something like this, feels the need to make such a stupid, tediously unoriginal remark.


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    #36
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Fair play. A really nice gesture and hopefully it'll help the most vulnerable during this cold snap


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    #37
    511
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    Exploiting vulnerable people while improving their PR image. It's the same tactics the Church of Scientology employ when their proselytising. No good intentions here at all, just looking for converts and to improve their rep.


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    #38
    corner of hells
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    511 wrote: »
    Exploiting vulnerable people while improving their PR image. It's the same tactics the Church of Scientology employ when their proselytising. No good intentions here at all, just looking for converts and to improve their rep.

    The beds they're providing are called "Cold Weather Initiave " beds.
    Most services for homeless roughsleepers provide them when's a cold snap overseen by the Central Placement Services and DRHE.
    No intent or plans to convert.


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    #39
    SnakePlissken
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    RayM wrote: »
    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    Any chance of a beer and a rasher sandwich?

    Imagine being the kind of person who, upon hearing about something like this, feels the need to make such a stupid, tediously unoriginal remark.

    Imagine being the kind of person to feign such insult at what was a lighthearted and in no way incindiary comment.


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    #40
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    dreamliner wrote: »
    Thank you children ...

    The only person displaying immaturity with sly name calling is you.

    And by the By, you're no moderator, you dislike where a conversation is heading you're free to unfollow the thread.


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    #41
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    People can be so naive.


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    #42
    Mr. CooL ICE
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    For fcuk sake. Some religious place does something nice for homeless people and guess what? Mudslinging ensues.



    Some of you lot need to take a big long look at yourselves. Seriously.


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    #43
    CPTM
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Jokes on you guys, there are no homeless people in clonskeagh :)

    Remember yur man in the tent though in the park beside Clonskeagh last year. He was there for about 8 months, including the winter..


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    #44
    ohnonotgmail
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    511 wrote: »
    Exploiting vulnerable people while improving their PR image. It's the same tactics the Church of Scientology employ when their proselytising. No good intentions here at all, just looking for converts and to improve their rep.


    do you make the same accusations against the salvation army?
    Do you know that they are actually proselytising or is that just your prejudice?


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    #45
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Bus to out Clonskeagh €1.75
    Dutch Gold can €1.75
    Decisions, decisions!


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    #46
    SnakePlissken
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    Nicolas Cage wrote: »
    For fcuk sake. Some religious place does something nice for homeless people and guess what? Mudslinging ensues.



    Some of you lot need to take a big long look at yourselves. Seriously.
    Nicolas Cage wrote: »
    For fcuk sake. Some religious place does something nice for homeless people and guess what? Mudslinging ensues.



    Some of you lot need to take a big long look at yourselves. Seriously.

    It is indeed a notable gesture they have made, I for one dont believe this is the thread to raise the other more unsavoury aspects regarding Clonskeagh.

    However this thread was derailed two posts in by someone making a Christianaphobic claim which was quickly proven as false.

    It certainly is a shame that every thread with even a hint of Islam in the topic descends into scurrilous whataboutery regarding Catholicism.


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    #47
    corner of hells
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    topper75 wrote: »
    Bus to out Clonskeagh €1.75
    Dutch Gold can €1.75
    Decisions, decisions!

    Important stuff.. but the bus is free.


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    #48
    Hector Savage
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    Can't believe people are so naive, what price do you think there is for them taking homeless in ?
    You don't think they will get much converts because of this ?
    When people are at low points, they see something like this as destiny and feel obliged to give something back.


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    #49
    Collie D
    Registered Users Posts: 11,324 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Can't believe people are so naive, what price do you think there is for them taking homeless in ?
    You don't think they will get much converts because of this ?
    When people are at low points, they see something like this as destiny and feel obliged to give something back.

    And?


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    #50
    Grayson
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    maudgonner wrote: »
    A quick Google found that St Patrick's Church in Belfast did just that. I'm sure there were other examples.

    I read an article about homelessness in san Francisco. There's a huge church there that sleeps 5the homeless during the day. It's because most homeless people tend to stay awake at night and during the day if they stop anywhere the police do them for loitering.

    To be fair, all the big religions can demonstrate that they've done a lot to help the needy. The Red Cross and Red Crescent are two great examples.

    I have issues with religion in general but I do recognise that some of their adherents are inspired to do selfless acts.


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    #51
    Grayson
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    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    It is indeed a notable gesture they have made, I for one dont believe this is the thread to raise the other more unsavoury aspects regarding Clonskeagh.

    However this thread was derailed two posts in by someone making a Christianaphobic claim which was quickly proven as false.

    It certainly is a shame that every thread with even a hint of Islam in the topic descends into scurrilous whataboutery regarding Catholicism.

    I see your point but what about catholicism? ;)


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    #52
    MysticMonk
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    RayM wrote: »
    Imagine being the kind of person who, upon hearing about something like this, feels the need to make such a stupid, tediously unoriginal remark.

    Yes..i wish some people would just blow grow up.


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    #53
    quintana76
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    Can't see them allowing alcohol. If that is so they will have very few takers.They will know this fact. They need to allow alcohol to prove it is not a cheap (badly needed) bandwagon jumping publicity stunt.


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    #54
    corner of hells
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    quintana76 wrote: »
    Can't see them allowing alcohol. If that is so they will have very few takers.They will know this fact. They need to allow alcohol to prove it is not a cheap (badly needed) bandwagon jumping publicity stunt.

    No hostel allows alcohol in unless it's specifically a wet hostel.
    I think there's just the one in the city.


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    #55
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,310 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    quintana76 wrote: »
    Can't see them allowing alcohol. If that is so they will have very few takers.They will know this fact. They need to allow alcohol to prove it is not a cheap (badly needed) bandwagon jumping publicity stunt.


    why do they need to do that? a lot of homeless hostels dont allow alcohol either.


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    #56
    Your Face
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    Homeless shelters are open all year round.

    Just saying, jeez like.


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    #57
    quintana76
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    why do they need to do that? a lot of homeless hostels dont allow alcohol either.

    Which is one of the main reasons why a proportion of the homeless prefer to sleep on the street.


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    #58
    corner of hells
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    quintana76 wrote: »
    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    why do they need to do that? a lot of homeless hostels dont allow alcohol either.

    Which is one of the main reasons why a proportion of the homeless prefer to sleep on the street.

    No it's a significant mental ill health issues , lack of beds , lack of engagement with services. Low threshold hostels allow more or less anyone in , suggesting that alcohol use is why individuals don't access services is wrong.


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    #59
    ohnonotgmail
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    quintana76 wrote: »
    Which is one of the main reasons why a proportion of the homeless prefer to sleep on the street.

    you have a source for that presumably? and what proportion exactly?


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    #60
    MysticMonk
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    quintana76 wrote: »
    Which is one of the main reasons why a proportion of the homeless prefer to sleep on the street.


    True..and also a lot of them are banned from hostels for drinking/and or taking drugs.


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    #61
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    quintana76 wrote: »
    Which is one of the main reasons why a proportion of the homeless prefer to sleep on the street.


    True..and also a lot of them are banned from hostels for drinking/and or taking drugs.

    Not true.


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