Man and woman shot dead, two others injured in Dublin gangland shooting

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 16-08-2017 5:32pm #1

A man and woman have died, and another two people were injured, after a gangland style attack on a house in north Dublin this evening.
Emergency services are at the scene of the shooting in Balbutcher Lane in Ballymun.
A source said paramedics were working on a man in his 30s outside the home while the woman, in her 40s, was inside the building.

They have both passed away following the incident.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-and-woman-killed-in-ganglandstyle-shooting-in-dublin-housing-estate-36038963.html

Bloody hell, I don't recall 4 people being shot in Ireland before (outside of terrorism).
AFAIK, this isn't related to the Kinehan/Hutch feud. Still, this is shocking stuff.

sullivlo · 16-08-2017 5:36pm

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-and-woman-killed-in-ganglandstyle-shooting-in-dublin-housing-estate-36038963.html

Bloody hell, I don't recall 4 people being shot in Ireland before (outside of terrorism).
AFAIK, this isn't related to the Kinehan/Hutch feud. Still, this is shocking stuff.

Hopefully not related to the Trevor Deely case either - not a revenge for snitching.

RIP to the people.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 16-08-2017 5:39pm

sullivlo wrote: »

Hopefully not related to the Trevor Deely case either - not a revenge for snitching.

RIP to the people.

Damn, that never even occurred to me. I hope that doesn't turn out to be true.

tomofson · 16-08-2017 5:39pm

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-and-woman-killed-in-ganglandstyle-shooting-in-dublin-housing-estate-36038963.html

Bloody hell, I don't recall 4 people being shot in Ireland before (outside of terrorism).
AFAIK, this isn't related to the Kinehan/Hutch feud. Still, this is shocking stuff.

Four people where shot back in 2012 in a house in kildare as far as i know, one irish and one eastern european where killed.

Missdoodle · 16-08-2017 5:50pm

Mickthehack on twitter

Intended target flees unharmed,

Comment further down which mick liked

"bottler"

My own words can't link.

MysticMonk · 16-08-2017 5:52pm

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote:

Damn, that never even occurred to me. I hope that doesn't turn out to be true.

It won't..not in a million years

dd972 · 16-08-2017 5:55pm

This country shouldn't be any more dangerous than Finland or Denmark, this underclass has been left to fester for years by Gombeens who will never have to deal or live with this sort of thing, we're sandwiched between rich and poor scum.

Spider Web · 16-08-2017 5:56pm

MysticMonk wrote: »

It won't..not in a million years

I don't think it's appropriate to bring Trevor's case into this at this stage, however why are you always so sure about all the things you say in relation to crime related matters? Are you in the guards?

tomofson · 16-08-2017 5:57pm

dd972 wrote: »

This country shouldn't be any more dangerous than Finland or Denmark, this underclass has been left to fester for years by Gombeens who will never have to deal or live with sort of thing, we're sandwiched between rich and poor scum.

Bit of an angry ant here anyways, just cause someone comes from a certain background does not make them "scum".

MysticMonk · 16-08-2017 6:02pm

Spider Web wrote:

I don't think it's appropriate to bring Trevor's case into this at this stage, however why are you always so sure about all the things you say in relation to crime related matters? Are you in the guards?

I didn't..I answered somebody who brought him into it.

I'm sure of things I say because I have a life outside the internet.

Spider Web · 16-08-2017 6:04pm

MysticMonk wrote: »

I didn't..I answered somebody who brought him into it.

I'm sure of things I say because I have a life outside the internet.

Nnnnno... you did respond with great certainty.

People who say stuff you don't agree with also have a life outside the internet. That's not an answer to "Why do you present your opinions as fact?"

dd972 · 16-08-2017 6:20pm

tomofson wrote: »

Bit of an angry ant here anyways, just cause someone comes from a certain background does not make them "scum".

It's more about the inequality and the very fixed class system in Ireland, decent people in places like Finglas or Ballymun are held in contempt by the criminal elements, they're also regarded contemptuously by the so-called 'upper' echelons.

tomofson · 16-08-2017 6:25pm

dd972 wrote: »

It's more about the inequality and the very fixed class system in Ireland, decent people in places like Finglas or Ballymun are held in contempt by the criminal elements, they're also regarded contemptuously by the so-called 'upper' echelons.

So why refer to poor people as "scum"

Anyway classism isn't the point, the murder of two people in cold blood is.

Eircom_Sucks · 16-08-2017 6:27pm

Girl was pregnant aswell

tomofson · 16-08-2017 6:30pm

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

Girl was pregnant aswell

The girl who died or who was injured?

BillyBobBS · 16-08-2017 6:36pm

Very sad news. R.I.P

Eircom_Sucks · 16-08-2017 6:37pm

tomofson wrote: »

The girl who died or who was injured?

One who died afaik

Snickers Man · 16-08-2017 6:39pm

Irish Times says that the two who died were "very closely associated with a criminal shot dead and whose body was dumped in a laneway in Dublin 3.5 years ago."

Great way to get you to take out a digital subscription so you can trawl their archives of "3.5 years ago" and find the name of somebody from Balbutcher Drive who was shot dead in January 2014 a week after being released from prison. A career criminal with 70 convictions at the time.

Course it could have been somebody else completely.........

Stheno · 16-08-2017 6:39pm

And its being reported that there were small children in the house

Missdoodle · 16-08-2017 6:47pm

Snickers Man wrote: »

Irish Times says that the two who died were "very closely associated with a criminal shot dead and whose body was dumped in a laneway in Dublin 3.5 years ago."

Great way to get you to take out a digital subscription so you can trawl their archives of "3.5 years ago" and find the name of somebody from Balbutcher Drive who was shot dead in January 2014 a week after being released from prison. A career criminal with 70 convictions at the time.

Course it could have been somebody else completely.........

From all my information all victims are innocent, intended target " bottler" got away some how.

tomofson · 16-08-2017 6:48pm

Missdoodle wrote: »

From all my information all victims are innocent, intended target " bottler" got away some how.

By the looks of things the intended target was the only one who got away uninjured.

dublinman1990 · 16-08-2017 6:49pm

If the victims who were killed today were believed to be completely innocent from this shooting; well this is just another shocking & costly mistake from the perpetrators involved in it. Another thing about this shooting is that the perpetrators may not care at all about this loss under any circumstance. We have heard about this before in other parts of the country and the outcome of those shootings was one of heartbreak for everybody affected.

Whatever the motive; The Gardaí must investigate it in detail to get justice for the families & friends impacted by this crime.

tomofson · 16-08-2017 6:49pm

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

One who died afaik

Jesus...

septictank · 16-08-2017 6:51pm

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/kinahan-mob-cancel-death-threat-on-prime-target-after-cash-payout

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/kinahan-mob-cancel-death-threat-on-prime-target-after-cash-payout

If you believe what the SW reports, Address and players add up.

tomofson · 16-08-2017 6:54pm

septictank wrote: »

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/kinahan-mob-cancel-death-threat-on-prime-target-after-cash-payout

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/kinahan-mob-cancel-death-threat-on-prime-target-after-cash-payout

If you believe what the SW reports, Address and players add up.

More innocent blood spilled by the untouchables by the looks of things.
Garda need to start getting serious with that "cartel", but now they sit outisde their houses and guard them.

MysticMonk · 16-08-2017 6:55pm

Missdoodle wrote:

From all my information all victims are innocent, intended target " bottler" got away some how.

His name wasn't bottler. Bottler is a term used to describe somebody who loses thier courage or "bottle".

Somebody who runs away could be called a bottler by someone unkind.

tomofson · 16-08-2017 6:58pm

MysticMonk wrote: »

His name wasn't bottler. Bottler is a term used to describe somebody who loses thier courage or "bottle".

Somebody who runs away could be called a bottler by someone unkind.

His nickname is bottler but he got that name for a totally different reason.

Lead · 16-08-2017 7:00pm

The other woman who was injured was holding a baby the indo says

r93kaey5p2izun · 16-08-2017 7:01pm

MysticMonk wrote: »

His name wasn't bottler. Bottler is a term used to describe somebody who loses thier courage or "bottle".

Somebody who runs away could be called a bottler by someone unkind.

No, the nickname of the person being referred to is bottler.

SEPT 23 1989 · 16-08-2017 7:01pm

tomofson wrote: »

More innocent blood spilled by the untouchables by the looks of things.
Garda need to start getting serious with that "cartel", but now they sit outisde their houses and guard them.

Amazing how the cartel got so powerful you only get untouchable with the right friends in the right places

Wheeliebin30 · 16-08-2017 7:03pm

How for such a small population can this country produce so many scumbags?

Missdoodle · 16-08-2017 7:03pm

MysticMonk wrote: »

His name wasn't bottler. Bottler is a term used to describe somebody who loses thier courage or "bottle".

Somebody who runs away could be called a bottler by someone unkind.

Can you fill me in?

I was just airing on the side of caution not naming the intended target.

Missdoodle · 16-08-2017 7:04pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

How for such a small population can this country produce so many scumbags?

Illegal drugs??

MysticMonk · 16-08-2017 7:04pm

tomofson wrote:

His nickname is bottler but he got that name for a totally different reason.

He looks like Brendan Grace?

Wheeliebin30 · 16-08-2017 7:05pm

Missdoodle wrote: »

Illegal drugs??

Every country has illegal drugs.

So many shootings for a tiny country in the grand scheme of things.

Madness.

glenfieldman · 16-08-2017 7:05pm

This was the intended target

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/cops-ring-of-steel-around-bottler-devoy-s-hood

tomofson · 16-08-2017 7:05pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

How for such a small population can this country produce so many scumbags?

Places in this world have a lot less people and a lot more murders.

There really isn't that many when you think of it.

Thats why its shocking when it happens, especially a double murder.

Irish Guitarist · 16-08-2017 7:09pm

Anyone else think it's a bit of a stupid idea to interview the neighbour that heard the gunshots and print her actual name and address?

SEPT 23 1989 · 16-08-2017 7:09pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

How for such a small population can this country produce so many scumbags?

Check out the murder stats for the Mexican towns bordering the US

Wheeliebin30 · 16-08-2017 7:11pm

tomofson wrote: »

Places in this world have a lot less people and a lot more murders.

There really isn't that many when you think of it.

Thats why its shocking when it happens, especially a double murder.

One of the highest gun murders in Europe?

lawred2 · 16-08-2017 7:11pm

tomofson wrote: »

Bit of an angry ant here anyways, just cause someone comes from a certain background does not make them "scum".

And just because you say someone is scum doesn't mean that you meant that they come from a certain background.

tomofson · 16-08-2017 7:14pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

One of the highest gun murders in Europe?

Far from it actually, the only people who make such claims are the gutter press because they know the average person wont do any research on it and just believer what they say...

Certain sections of paris,marseille,Barcelona and cities in italy have gun murders on a daily basis.

brickland · 16-08-2017 7:15pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Every country has illegal drugs.

So many shootings for a tiny country in the grand scheme of things.

Madness.

Not every small country had an armed conflict with so much weaponry available like we had. A lot of guns especially handguns are still floating around from the "decommissioning" era.

Luger was a common weapon of the UVF, if you look at a lot of handgun possession crime in Dublin this will usually be the gun.

Wheeliebin30 · 16-08-2017 7:21pm

tomofson wrote: »

Far from it actually, the only people who make such claims are the gutter press because they know the average person wont do any research on it and just believer what they say...

Certain sections of paris,marseille,Barcelona and cities in italy have gun murders on a daily basis.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/rate-of-homicide-among-highest-in-europe-265006.html

"Ireland has a higher homicide rate than most of our European neighbours, according to a UN report."

I dunno surely they can't print stuff like this if it isn't true?

alexx123 · 16-08-2017 7:23pm

glenfieldman wrote: »

This was the intended target

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/cops-ring-of-steel-around-bottler-devoy-s-hood

not much of a ring of steal.

tomofson · 16-08-2017 7:24pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/rate-of-homicide-among-highest-in-europe-265006.html

"Ireland has a higher homicide rate than most of our European neighbours, according to a UN report."

I dunno surely they can't print stuff like this if it isn't true?

Of course they can sure they just did there, don't be believing most of what the tabloids say. Ireland is one of the safest countries on the planet and people who believe this nonsense just want to excuse their paranoia

Your Face · 16-08-2017 7:27pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/rate-of-homicide-among-highest-in-europe-265006.html

"Ireland has a higher homicide rate than most of our European neighbours, according to a UN report."

I dunno surely they can't print stuff like this if it isn't true?

I've read that before.
Our murder rate was apparently the same as Eastern European countries like Latvia etc.
If I can find the link again I'll post it here.

Stheno · 16-08-2017 7:29pm

Dead woman was a mother of six

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/mumofsix-and-man-killed-three-including-child-injured-in-dublin-housing-estate-shooting-36038963.html

tomofson · 16-08-2017 7:31pm

Stheno wrote: »

Dead woman was a mother of six

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/mumofsix-and-man-killed-three-including-child-injured-in-dublin-housing-estate-shooting-36038963.html

A lot of kids going to grow up with anger over this, I read somewhere the man killed was an innocent window fitter. I just hope none of their children/family seek revenge for this in the future.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 16-08-2017 7:32pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/rate-of-homicide-among-highest-in-europe-265006.html

"Ireland has a higher homicide rate than most of our European neighbours, according to a UN report."

I dunno surely they can't print stuff like this if it isn't true?

Far from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

barneystinson · 16-08-2017 7:36pm

tomofson wrote: »

Of course they can sure they just did there, don't be believing most of what the tabloids say. Ireland is one of the safest countries on the planet and people who believe this nonsense just want to excuse their paranoia

Well if it's between a national newspaper citing a UN report and you (a random anonymous person online) just repeatedly saying stuff but without citing a source of your own, the "gutter press" is miles ahead of you, credibility wise...

Man and woman shot dead, two others injured in Dublin gangland shooting

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