UFC 214 - DC vs Jones

johnpatrick81 · 30-07-2017 7:29pm

Maia Decision

People who hit and run are generally of questionable character....think you answered your own question there!

Gamebred · 30-07-2017 7:32pm

Maia Decision

Meant to be an ignorant prick behind the scenes too, has multiple personalities not to mention hes a coke head, can see why people wouldnt like him.

Alf Veedersane · 30-07-2017 7:32pm

Inviere wrote: »

I'm aware that JJ has the hit & run thing hanging over him, & the USADA thing from the previously cancelled fight, but what is it that people call him a scumbag for?

Yeah, it's a mystery.

ricero · 30-07-2017 7:36pm

Woodley Sub

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Thought Dana was spot on giving Woodley a reality check. Nobody in their right mind would pay to watch him fight after the last 3 non fights.

3 non fights ? i think you mean 2 non fights. His first fight against wonderboy was a great scrap

johnpatrick81 · 30-07-2017 7:38pm

Maia Decision

Was it? I've erased it from my memory as the last two were so bad.

I think you might be wrong though as I clearly remember the 2nd match being labelled the rematch absolutely nobody wanted

Inviere · 30-07-2017 7:41pm

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

People who hit and run are generally of questionable character....think you answered your own question there!

I was asking incase there was anything else to it (ie he has other damaging stuff I'm not aware of), but yeah, point taken

Gamebred · 30-07-2017 7:52pm

Maia Decision

Hard to argue hes not the goat.

riffmongous · 30-07-2017 7:53pm

Maia KO/TKO

Inviere wrote: »

I was asking incase there was anything else to it (ie he has other damaging stuff I'm not aware of), but yeah, point taken

Also when he first started out he professed very much to be a butter wouldnt melt, jesus loving saint, but he acted like a bit of an arrogant dick, then came the eye pokes, 'are you there pussy', the coke.. it's a long rap sheet

JJayoo · 30-07-2017 8:10pm

He hit
He ran
He ran back to grab some cash
Then he ran again
And dissapearred until anything in his system had left

Imagine that, the pregnant women was either unconscious or screaming for help and he was like NOPE. He should be in jail

GerryDerpy · 30-07-2017 8:11pm

What did he do again?

ASOT · 30-07-2017 8:22pm

Jon Jones Sub

Champ

MMayweather · 30-07-2017 8:25pm

JJayoo wrote: »

He hit
Hl
He ran back to grab some cash
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"Cash"

Inviere · 30-07-2017 8:29pm

Only catching up with the post fight presser now, wow, Dana is not at all happy with Tyron. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole thing, on one hand Tyron is right in that he's been fighting complete specialists lately, & that needs to be handled a certain way. When fighting a free styler like Robbie, he blew Robbie away in Rd 1. On the other hand, Dana is running an entertainment business based around a sport, & boo'ing is not at all what he wants to hear. I'd agree with Dana in that Tyron could have ended that fight in Round 1 if he chose to take some risks...but in the sphere of sports/technicality versus entertainment, where do you draw the line, especially where there's a belt on the line.

Edit - don't agree with Dana re Robbie & Tyron being a good fight, I'm a massive Robbie fan but he didn't look near ready for Tyron there

Gamebred · 30-07-2017 8:43pm

Maia Decision

https://twitter.com/SandhuMMA/status/891740959440064512

Crazy that Rogan tried interviewing him watching this, was out of it big time.

wonderfullife · 30-07-2017 10:34pm

Maia Decision

Gamebred wrote: »

Crazy that Rogan tried interviewing him watching this, was out of it big time.

Even crazier people are giving Rogan credit for his apology.

Not sure I'm a huge fan of the instagram story JK was putting out either. All the "lads" making man jokes about Cyborg. "He looks like he has a johnny on his head" was Gerry Byrne's genius quip. Pretty pathetic stuff.

.ak · 30-07-2017 11:17pm

I've rewatched the fight twice now. Hard to call both rounds. I thought DC looked the best I've ever seen him. Footwork for a top-heavy dude was fantastic, real discipline there, kept stepping in whenever Jones moved, suffocating him without actually completely killing the space. Some of his striking was really nice, and not what I'd usually expect from him. Feints into combos linked with kicks.

However, having said that, aside from that uppercut, I don't think Jones ever looked phased. He dipped a little in the 2nd, but I think he won the first easily enough and the third round he responded to his coaches input; focus and consistency. He came out like the terminator and I felt he destroyed DC before the head kick even landed. Rewind a bit tho, and for me so much of what he did in round 1 and 2 made what happened in round 3 possible. He absolutely butchers the inside of DC's legs. DC had a poker face the whole fight, apart from when after the 5th or 6th inside leg kick from JJ came - his face was contorted in pain. He did an absolute number to the interior ligaments on both knees. Stability was going. When your ligaments around your knees go it becomes harder and harder to bend and straighten your knee. Come the third round you can see DC becomes more dependant on moving from his hip, and JJ see's this. Just before the head kick lands you can see JJ testing the waters by sending some warning shot jabs straight OVER DC's head, with no intention of connecting, and DC swivels from the hips to avoid. He repeats the process a few times until it seems almost like DC has given up on the duck and slide. He feints, and then switches up with the head kick, and that's all she wrote.

The guy is the definition of a martial artist. There's a select few who understand the flow of what's going on with their body, the opponents body, and then being able to express what they see in their head. McGregor has it, Silva has it, T.J has it, and JJ has it... but no one has the absolute freakish physique and abilities that JJ is blessed with also. Which is what makes JJ such a frustrating character, he's an odd fish, and I imagine he has some issues there mentally speaking, no smoke without fire and all, and I really hope for his own sake he keeps it together now and takes some positive actions towards his mental health going forward, because if he can mature a bit and settle he will be the GOAT and it'll be a long time before you will see a fighter like him again.

0byme75341jo28 · 30-07-2017 11:18pm

Maia KO/TKO

Embarrassing comments in fairness. Sure, Cyborg isn't exactly Aphrodite but she's not there to be eye candy, people can go watch the likes of Vanzant (somewhat talented to be fair) and Curran (1-5 in UFC) if they want something pleasant to look at, on the other hand if they want to engage their brains for a minute and see extremely talented female MMA fighters there's always Nunes and Cyborg etc.

The men in the UFC aren't held back/promoted based on their looks, why should the women?

ricero · 30-07-2017 11:24pm

Woodley Sub

Have sympathy for woodley who i though fought very clever last night and showed that he has some of the best takedown defence in the whole of the ufc. Bit harsh dana's commens. It takes two to tango and maia was more to blame on the fight been a stinker.

Dont want to see him rematch with lawler next but who else is there in that division ?

Mellor · 30-07-2017 11:26pm

Maia Decision

marcus001 wrote: »

The guy can't lose weight for ****. He loves his food and I'm pretty sure he's not on any roids so his training regime probably isn't as intense as you might think. Jones was bragging about training 4 times a day. If true that's a suspiciously high workload for a clean athlete.

I don't think Jayroo was talking about DC's own willpower issues with food. Just simply the fact that he clearly has the weight to lose. He has similar lean mass to a middle middleweight I'd guess.

On a similar note, I never quite get the way people talk about Cyborg as if it's impossible for her to lose weight.

CatFromHue · 30-07-2017 11:30pm

wonderfullife wrote: »

Even crazier people are giving Rogan credit for his apology.

Not sure I'm a huge fan of the instagram story JK was putting out either. All the "lads" making man jokes about Cyborg. "He looks like he has a johnny on his head" was Gerry Byrne's genius quip. Pretty pathetic stuff.

what's the instagram story JK was putting out?

marcus001 · 30-07-2017 11:33pm

Woodley KO/TKO

Sloane Famous Wit wrote: »

Embarrassing comments in fairness. Sure, Cyborg isn't exactly Aphrodite but she's not there to be eye candy, people can go watch the likes of Vanzant (somewhat talented to be fair) and Curran (1-5 in UFC) if they want something pleasant to look at, on the other hand if they want to engage their brains for a minute and see extremely talented female MMA fighters there's always Nunes and Cyborg etc.

The men in the UFC aren't held back/promoted based on their looks, why should the women?

I would normally agree it's wrong to focus on a woman athlete's looks, but since her looks are the result of the horseloads of steroids she has been taking throughout her career to gain an unfair (and potentially permanent) advantage I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for her.

0byme75341jo28 · 30-07-2017 11:39pm

Maia KO/TKO

marcus001 wrote: »

Sloane Famous Wit wrote: »

Embarrassing comments in fairness. Sure, Cyborg isn't exactly Aphrodite but she's not there to be eye candy, people can go watch the likes of Vanzant (somewhat talented to be fair) and Curran (1-5 in UFC) if they want something pleasant to look at, on the other hand if they want to engage their brains for a minute and see extremely talented female MMA fighters there's always Nunes and Cyborg etc.

The men in the UFC aren't held back/promoted based on their looks, why should the women?

I would normally agree it's wrong to focus on a woman athlete's looks, but since her looks are the result of the horseloads of steroids she has been taking throughout her career to gain an unfair (and potentially permanent) advantage I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for her.

I wouldn't have much sympathy for her either but the likes of JK should have much more cop on when it comes to putting such things on his social media profile. But in fairness, this is standard fare for Kav's social media.

wonderfullife · 30-07-2017 11:47pm

Maia Decision

CatFromHue wrote: »

what's the instagram story JK was putting out?

1:25 to 1:55

Gerry Byrne says "it looks like a johnny on his (Cyborg's) head then John says "the man has a big head (haha)".

On Byrne's own instagram he kept saying "Hit her back MISTER!" and constantly referring to Cyborg as "he" during the fight.

Pathetic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6vj1D6PI_Q

Gamebred · 30-07-2017 11:50pm

Maia Decision

Cant stand Woodleys whinging but hats off hes beaten Lawler Wonderboy x2 and Maia in a year while Bisping is sitting out, he wins by the narrowest of margins but hats off hes very smart doesnt make stupid mistake, would rather see GSP Woodley given the choice.

Gamebred · 30-07-2017 11:52pm

Maia Decision

Kavanagh has split personalities if someone mentioned something about gay people he'd cry out of him because hes got a queer brother, no bother having the banter slagging Cyborgs appearance though.

Easy Rod · 31-07-2017 12:44am

Jon Jones Sub

wonderfullife wrote: »

1:25 to 1:55

Gerry Byrne says "it looks like a johnny on his (Cyborg's) head then John says "the man has a big head (haha)".

On Byrne's own instagram he kept saying "Hit her back MISTER!" and constantly referring to Cyborg as "he" during the fight.

Pathetic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6vj1D6PI_Q

I think the johnny comment was referring to one of her cornermen to be fair.

wonderfullife · 31-07-2017 12:45am

Maia Decision

Easy Rod wrote: »

I think the johnny comment was referring to one of her cornermen to be fair.

And when she was in fighting and they kept saying "Man's work" and "Hit her Mr." etc suppose they were referring to cornermen too?

It's quite obvious what they were doing. It's neither original or clever.

dave1982 · 31-07-2017 12:50am

Jon Jones Sub

Dont understand the hate for the woodley fight. Idk i thought of it as mma years ago, two disiplines meeting

Outlaw Pete · 31-07-2017 1:03am

Maia Decision

Either do I and like I said last night during the fight, defensive skills are something which are far more appreciated in boxing than they are in MMA. I think Woodley made it look a hell of a lot easier than it actually was for him to repel those TD attempts and I really don't get, nor appreciate, the booing.

Dana should be proclaiming what Woodley did. MMA has a reputation among non-fans as being a bit of a blood sport and if ever there was an opportunity to get away from that stigma then it was this fight and instead celebrate Woodley's talent rather than imply he needs to up his game.

That fight was a chess match and he played it to perfection.

wonderfullife · 31-07-2017 1:11am

Maia Decision

Easy Rod wrote: »

I think the johnny comment was referring to one of her cornermen to be fair.

As I said, there's no "to be fair" here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNNOKPMVXU4

UFC 214 - DC vs Jones

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