Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Chiparus wrote: »

Another driver has to get to the end of the next line of traffic faster!

Note the "L" plates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9urGmxINgPM

He got stuck just the other side of the roundabout , but I was turning right off the roundabout.

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Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Given the recent road deaths, and the common incendiary media commentary concerning cyclists, it seems strange that the RSA have not released a campaign aimed at alerting motorists to cyclist safety. Maybe one of those classic motor crash style ads could be used to show a cyclist being rear ended around a bend or cut across at a junction? Graphic, human, traumatic; it's what people respond to.

There has been some comments by individuals on the rsa
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/drivers-do-not-own-the-road-450174.html

But this would run contrary to the RSA trying to force cyclists onto unsafe cycle lanes : i.e. "Drivers do own the road"
https://lovindublin.com/news/cyclists-could-soon-be-restricted-only-to-cycle-lanes-in-dublin

clearly RSA are unsure what they mean by "share the road"

Coming through Ranelagh this morning towards town and my front wheel goes through the lights just as they start to turn amber. I never break lights and will always stop if they hit amber just as I am arriving, even if technically I could still sail through like the reams of cars and other cyclists that tend to!

Usually in those cases where I have just made it through before an amber, I am buffered by a couple of cars breaking the amber and sometimes a red, but it was early so I was the last bit of traffic making my way through with a side road up ahead with two lanes of traffic waiting to come out right and left. The two cars waiting had already nudged out into the bike lane so before I arrive there I move out slightly anyway but one of them still continues to move out, eyes locked on me, can see me coming but is not planning to stop.

Old bint with a terribly bad dye job and a big fancy car!

She then rolls down her window a tiny bit and tells me that I broke the light. I explained that I hadn't and she tells me I had. At this stage I am in front of her car and she is inching closer and closer. We repeat the same lines a few more times each until she obviously tires of having to converse with such a peasant and starts to roll her window back up, with a parting 'get a car' :rolleyes:

So I called her a silly old b*tch - not my finest moment, but it was early, I was grumpy and she WAS one, and went on my merry way!

Vel wrote: »

Old bint with a terribly bad dye job and a big fancy car!

So I called her a silly old b*tch - not my finest moment, but it was early, I was grumpy and she WAS one, and went on my merry way!

That's dangerous driving at speed. Never yielded before merging

Doctor Bob wrote: »

Has this been posted already?

"Fuuuuuuh....." - my reaction when watching that.

You know when you've seen so many of these videos and you reckon you know what's going to happen, and then something even more ludicrous happens?! I was watching it with my 'Robocop' vision on, scanning and identifying potential suspects, and then that crazy lethal driver comes out of nowhere. I think I'd have been going for a quick sit down in the grass verge after that one.

Moflojo wrote: »

"Fuuuuuuh....." - my reaction when watching that.

You know when you've seen so many of these videos and you reckon you know what's going to happen, and then something even more ludicrous happens?! I was watching it with my 'Robocop' vision on, scanning and identifying potential suspects, and then that crazy lethal driver comes out of nowhere. I think I'd have been going for a quick sit down in the grass verge after that one.

My reaction exactly. I got to about the 18th second and thought 'He's being over sensitive, none of those cars went particularly close', then HOLY SHIIII!!

You need to train that dog to identify potential near misses and bark accordingly!

The dog can type and post videos wow.... I know it was close but at least no speed involved.

ThisRegard wrote: »

A similar video in the dash camera thread but with the video from a car would have about a million thanks and a posse forming.

Ah will ya stop I was in no way saying it was OK.

Just both were hardly moving at all. So if there was a tip it would be minimal unless he was ran over of course.

People make mistakes in all vehicles and walking and just in general.

Annie get your Run wrote: »

Raven, coolest dog on the planet, isn't citizen wolf a boardsie too?

the name rings a bell alright. i must chat to him (Raven, not CW ) some morning, i see him quite often on my commute.

tomasrojo wrote: »

I think the most likely response to such a campaign would be to give up cycling.

By that logic, people would give up driving after witnessing such ads involving motorists.

I don't think the smashed-glass-and-graves ads really do make people think all that differently. Sensitive people already drive responsibly, and oafs never think these things apply to them.

They really do. Otherwise they would not be used, especially given their graphic/offensive nature etc. They may not significantly change people's behaviour long term, but they generate a discussion, and cause people to stop to think just for a moment when done correctly. Such ads can be effective, and if cyclists are to be considered equal and valid road users like cars, then such ads should be utilised imo. People are more affected by blood and tragedy than safety and sensitivity.

Incidentally, the section devote to "fear" campaigns in that study is worth reading.

For example:

Even when people are sympathetic to the plight shown by the fear appeal and feel that the recommended precautions are both sensible and doable, the fear-appeal will not have the intended effect if people do not believe that the consequences shown will ever happen to them. Only if people feel that the portrayed consequences are relevant to themselves and feel they are able to take the preventive measures the campaign proposes, does the fear-appeal have a chance to work.

And the contrast with the Netherlands (I was vaguely aware that they do a lot more joke-y campaigns):

In the Netherlands, for example, there is a long tradition of road safety advertising with an emphasis on humour rather than fear. This in contrast to countries such as Australia, New Zealand, the United States, and Great Britain that often show explicit pictures of crashes, casualties, injuries and blood, and the related emotions of pain, sorrow and grief of traffic victims and relatives

The Netherlands campaign to tell cyclists that they needed to use lights, but that lights attached to their person rather than the bike were acceptable was effective, and it didn't feature any unlit cyclists being pitchforked into eternity.