Largest Non-Nuclear Bomb in world dropped on Afghanistan

Bobeagleburger · 13-04-2017 7:33pm

A Little Pony wrote: »

No mercy to ISIS. If you harbour ISIS expect one of these.

You think this will beat the them? Not a hope. Playing into their hands. They are in every country.

It's just chest beating.

PucaMama · 13-04-2017 7:34pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

You do realise if nuclear bombs are used the affects won't be confined to the place bombed??

Yes I do.

The biggest threat of a nuclear missle being fired is from that nutter in North Korea and I'd bet the house he will get shut down long before he gets a chance to do anything.

I don't believe he's so under control. He's volatile. He's waiting for provocation and the US is going to provide it.

Lilmiss82 · 13-04-2017 7:34pm

bubblypop wrote: »

That's what you said

yeah this actual operation!

......... · 13-04-2017 7:35pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Merely recruiting more Isis members.

absolute rubbish, simply allowing people to eat a McDonald's will recruit nutters to Isis . . .

Depp · 13-04-2017 7:36pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yes I do.

The biggest threat of a nuclear missle being fired is from that nutter in North Korea and I'd bet the house he will get shut down long before he gets a chance to do anything.

Not really, by all accounts its highly unlikely N. Korea have the technology to mount their weapons to ICBMs. Also the devices they've tested so far have been very primitive with small payloads, they're very far off being the major nuclear threat some would claim they are.

Gatling · 13-04-2017 7:36pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Jaysus.

Seriously I'm laughing ,

Nice try though but it's a fail

Galwayguy35 · 13-04-2017 7:36pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

You're spinning this to suit your own point of view, if I blocked her name out and claimed that as my own information, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on there.

Honestly I'd be surprised if there were large civilian casualties, you can't bomb the bad guys without getting some good guys too, its a reality of war. On the other hand, hopefully Trump doesn't see all Afghans as the bad guys.

Well if someone who is totally biased in her opinion is all you can find when I suppose neither of us have a leg to stand on so fellow Galwegian.

Harry Palmr · 13-04-2017 7:36pm

Blowing up a few mountians didn't make much measurable difference against the Taliban in 2001

The whole point of "so called" IS is that it's everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Big bombs are a waste of money in an age of asymmetrical warfare.

Pac1Man · 13-04-2017 7:37pm

Hopefully they filmed it.

PucaMama · 13-04-2017 7:39pm

Depp wrote: »

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yes I do.

The biggest threat of a nuclear missle being fired is from that nutter in North Korea and I'd bet the house he will get shut down long before he gets a chance to do anything.

Not really, by all accounts its highly unlikely N. Korea have the technology to mount their weapons to ICBMs. Also the devices they've tested so far have been very primitive with small payloads, they're very far off being the major nuclear threat some would claim they are.

Watch CNN. North Korea getting ready for 6th nuclear test. Japan saying North Korea could launch bombs with sarin on them.

CoolHandBandit · 13-04-2017 7:39pm

Good enough for them.

Galwayguy35 · 13-04-2017 7:39pm

Depp wrote: »

Not really, by all accounts its highly unlikely N. Korea have the technology to mount their weapons to ICBMs. Also the devices they've tested so far have been very primitive with small payloads, they're very far off being the major nuclear threat some would claim they are.

I thought he was farther along in the technology need for the nuclear option TBH, good to hear he isn't.

......... · 13-04-2017 7:39pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Blowing up a few mountians didn't make much measurable difference against the Taliban in 2001

The whole point of "so called" IS is that it's everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Big bombs are a waste of money in an age of asymmetrical warfare.

Not if you want to test them it's not. What do you think Russia is using Syria for ? The same thing.

Weapons Practice.

Gringo180 · 13-04-2017 7:40pm

ilkhanid wrote: »

Everything the West does, Everything anybody does anywhere is a cause for recruitment for IS and other Jihadi: A man being refused asylum in Sweden, Infidels drinking in cafes in Paris, A man burning a Koran in Illnois, Germany using surveillance drones in Syria, the presence of Coptic Christians in Cairo, An Ahmadi preaching in Glasgow, Shias celebrating in Karbala etc etc etc etc.
How can they be fought if you maintain that they can't be killed? Should the Iraqis, Kurds and allies outside Raqqa and Mosul just pack up and go home?
If so, what do you suggest?

Absolute nonsense and you know it. Bin Laden said it himself that U.S intervention in the middle east was his biggest recruiting tool. Is it just a coincidence that this threat of Islamic extremism has multiplied by the thousands since Americas invasion of Iraq?

ilkhanid · 13-04-2017 7:40pm

Volturnus wrote: »

No wonder their are terrorists with these idiots blasting an entire region full of innocent people. If my family was caught in the middle of that bomb because some bureaucrat decided it was a good idea I'm pretty sure I'd want revenge too.

Would you then explain to me,please, why the the vast the vast majority of the victims of IS and the Taliban are innocent civilians?
Exactly who were they getting revenge for, when they murdered sixty Christian families in a park in Lahore? Or murdered a hundred schoolchildren and their teachers in a school in Pakistan.

This 'revenge for Western actions' stuff was always BS. They were murdering people before one United States boot set down on the soil of Kandahar.

PREG1967 · 13-04-2017 7:41pm

ilkhanid wrote: »

Would you then explain to me,please, why the the vast the vast majority of the victims of IS and the Taliban are innocent civilians?
Exactly who were they getting revenge for, when they murderd a hundred Christian families in a park in Lahore? Or murdered a hundred scholchildren and theit teachers in a school in Pakistan?

This revenge for Western actions was always BS

mother nature is so cruel but so issue the mother of bombs

Depp · 13-04-2017 7:41pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I thought he was farther along in the technology need for the nuclear option TBH, good to hear he isn't.

read recently some report and the problem is they dont have the tech to build a nuke small enough to mount on an icbm so the only threat is short range strikes at the minute. North Korean situation is a worry though going forward really needs to be sorted out sooner rather than later.

Beyondgone · 13-04-2017 7:42pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Blowing up a few mountians didn't make much measurable difference against the Taliban in 2001

The whole point of "so called" IS is that it's everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Big bombs are a waste of money in an age of asymmetrical warfare.

300 million too. Although that might be a bit like the Gards "street value" estimates on drugs seizures. There's probably a bomb-scientist somewhere in the States going "300 million..what? wait, we only got 500k for it??"

Followed by some Airforce bean counter standing in front of an accounts committee a year later going "Yes, erm, honest, it was 300 million..:o...that 300 million"small hole in the books" we couldn't account for last year...this was it.."

ilkhanid · 13-04-2017 7:43pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Absolute nonsense and you know it. Bin Laden said it himself that U.S intervention in the middle east was his biggest recruiting tool. Is it just a coincidence that this threat of Islamic extremism has multiplied by the thousands since Americas invasion of Iraq?

Excuse me, didn't 9/11 happen before the Iraq invasion? If they are only against American intervention, then why they murdering their own people by the tens of thousands? It seems that the desire to murder Shias, Ismaelis, Christians and Yazidis, rape, mutilate, plunder, vandalize and keep women as slaves is the main recruting tool.
In any case Is isn't Osama Bin Laden/Al Qaeda

astrofool · 13-04-2017 7:44pm

PucaMama wrote: »

He promised to bomb them, he can blow them all to hell if he wants. But what we don't want is an escalation to nuclear. Unless he has something bigger than this bomb that's not nuclear, what's his next step?

2 of these? There's a very big chasm from this to nuclear, there are many arguments against using these bombs, but saying nuclear is next is a lie for many, many reasons.

Noddyholder · 13-04-2017 7:44pm

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Righty-O. Enjoy drooling over yer war, lads, and getting sweaty and slightly breathless waiting for the videos of the destruction.
I'm out

Your the one who dropped here

the thread

& just because it hasn't all gone your way/opinion you having a little hizzy fit, Of you go, us mere mortals will hang around & try avoid the shrapnel

Beyondgone · 13-04-2017 7:45pm

PucaMama wrote: »

Watch CNN. North Korea getting ready for 6th nuclear test. Japan saying North Korea could launch bombs with sarin on them.

Like the "sarin" used in Syria? The sarin that turns out was barrels of chlorine robbed from a chlorine factory and fecked out the door of a helicopter? A chlorine factory that had fallen into the rebels hands shortly beforehand?

:pac:

Sarin me behind.

Noddyholder · 13-04-2017 7:46pm

ilkhanid wrote: »

Everything the West does, Everything anybody does anywhere is a cause for recruitment for IS and other Jihadi: A man being refused asylum in Sweden, Infidels drinking in cafes in Paris, A man burning a Koran in Illnois, Germany using surveillance drones in Syria, the presence of Coptic Christians in Cairo, An Ahmadi preaching in Glasgow, Shias celebrating in Karbala etc etc etc etc.
How can they be fought if you maintain that they can't be killed? Should the Iraqis, Kurds and allies outside Raqqa and Mosul just pack up and go home?
If so, what do you suggest?

Million percent correct.

Autonomous Cowherd · 13-04-2017 7:48pm

Noddyholder wrote: »

Your the one who dropped here the thread & just because it hasn't all gone your way/opinion you having a little hizzy fit, Of you go, us mere mortals will hang around & try avoid the shrapnel

lol

It's nothing to do with it not going my way. I just dislike the gloating and slavering over mega bombs. 95000 people live in Archin district. I'd say a lot of them are bleeding from their ears right now and I just can't abide the panting over a war machine

Taylor365 · 13-04-2017 7:49pm

ilkhanid wrote: »

Excuse me, didn't 9/11 happen before the Iraq invasion? If they are only against American intervention, then why they murdering their own people by the tens of thousands?

There was a world before 9/11.

Gringo180 · 13-04-2017 7:50pm

ilkhanid wrote: »

Excuse me, didn't 9/11 happen before the Iraq invasion? If they are only against American intervention, then why they murdering their own people by the tens of thousands?

America invaded Iraq in the 90s. Check your history book. Then they were sanctioned in the oil for food programme that killed thousands of innocent people .

ilkhanid · 13-04-2017 7:51pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

America invaded Iraq in the 90s. Check your history book. Then they were sanctioned in the oil for food programme that killed thousands of innocent people .

American forces evicted the Iraqis from Kuwait in 1991,destroyed the Iraqi army and then left Iraqi territory. They did not invade Iraq.(In fact some say they should have done so and finished off Saddam then when they had a good reason to do so).
Osama didn't give a sh1t about Iraq. In fact he wanted to raise a brigade of Holy warriors to fight Saddam. They (rightly) told him to feck off.
He then complained about the presence of Infidel Americans upon the Holy Soil of Saudi Arabia. The Saudi authorities-perfectly within their rights in inviting the coalition forces to use Saudi territory and facilities-again told him to feck off. He went off in a huff to start his Jihad.

mark085 · 13-04-2017 7:52pm

WW3 is beginning ...

PucaMama · 13-04-2017 7:54pm

Beyondgone wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

Watch CNN. North Korea getting ready for 6th nuclear test. Japan saying North Korea could launch bombs with sarin on them.

Like the "sarin" used in Syria? The sarin that turns out was barrels of chlorine robbed from a chlorine factory and fecked out the door of a helicopter? A chlorine factory that had fallen into the rebels hands shortly beforehand?

:pac:

Sarin me behind.

Are you a doctor? I don't believe necessarily that Assad done it himself but I'm not a doctor so I can't say if those people were poisoned with sarin or chlorine gas and even if I was a doctor I couldn't diagnose through a Tv/computer screen either.

Gringo180 · 13-04-2017 7:57pm

ilkhanid wrote: »

America evicted the Iraqis from Kuwait in 1991 and then left Iraqi territory. They did not invade Iraq.

Jaysus why were they so worried about Kuwait. Only a few years previous they aided Saddam in his invasion and war against Iran :pac:

Just under 4000 civilians were killed in the first invasion. There was a strike on a bunker in Amiriyah by 2 U.S airforce jets that killed 408 Iraqi civilians.

A Little Pony · 13-04-2017 7:58pm

RoboKlopp wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

No mercy to ISIS. If you harbour ISIS expect one of these.

You think this will beat the them? Not a hope. Playing into their hands. They are in every country.

It's just chest beating.

As a famous general once said when asked a question similar, "kill em, kill em all". I follow that philosophy with ISIS. Too many weak minded people who are just too PC about it, too faff about it.

Del.Monte · 13-04-2017 7:59pm

mark085 wrote: »

WW3 is beginning ...

If you really believe that would you not better stocking up on supplies and digging a bunker rather than posting on Boards?

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 13-04-2017 8:00pm

Fantastic reaction from the US, inspiring to see. Finally a leader who is taking the gloves off and laying into ISIS.

Hopefully the US now will proceed to covertly (or overtly) arm local Defence Militia's in Malmo, Rinkeby, Paris, Molenbeek, Rotherham, Germany, Holland etc. I suspect CENTCOM have been paying very close attention to the European terror threat, and they know exactly who the threats are, and who is sponsoring them.

A militarised rollback operation is the only hope for Europe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollback

Beyondgone · 13-04-2017 8:00pm

PucaMama wrote: »

Are you a doctor? I don't believe necessarily that Assad done it himself but I'm not a doctor so I can't say if those people were poisoned with sarin or chlorine gas and even if I was a doctor I couldn't diagnose through a Tv/computer screen either.

Loads of pics doing the rounds, have a google. Also read the whinging from the factory owner whose chlorine was looted. He had hoped to sell it once peace broke out to restore his businesses fortunes, until the rebels robbed it and fecked it at their enemy.. which got spun, as everything does. Anyway, you believe whatever. We're all entitled to do that. Happily.

Those big bombs though..

carry on.

Gringo180 · 13-04-2017 8:00pm

A Little Pony wrote: »

As a famous general once said when asked a question similar, "kill em, kill em all". I follow that philosophy with ISIS. Too many weak minded people who are just too PC about it, too faff about it.

Imagine the Brits having the same attitude towards the IRA. Would you be saying the same if they decided to unleash this bomb in the countryside in Co Louth during the troubles?

Beyondgone · 13-04-2017 8:02pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Imagine the Brits having the same attitude towards the IRA. Would you be saying the same if they decided to unleash this bomb in the countryside in Co Louth during the troubles?

Louth you say?

Hmm.. I'd have to think about that. If it was Meath now, jasus...

PucaMama · 13-04-2017 8:03pm

Beyondgone wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

Are you a doctor? I don't believe necessarily that Assad done it himself but I'm not a doctor so I can't say if those people were poisoned with sarin or chlorine gas and even if I was a doctor I couldn't diagnose through a Tv/computer screen either.

Loads of pics doing the rounds, have a google. Also read the whinging from the factory owner whose chlorine was looted. He had hoped to sell it once peace broke out to restore his businesses fortunes, until the rebels robbed it and fecked it at their enemy.. which got spun, as everything does. Anyway, you believe whatever. We're all entitled to do that. Happily.

Those big bombs though..

carry on.

Why would I believe some factory owner over anyone else? What's so special about him. Or is it he's just saying what some people want to hear.

Autonomous Cowherd · 13-04-2017 8:04pm

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

Fantastic reaction from the US, inspiring to see. Finally a leader who is taking the gloves off and laying into ISIS.

Hopefully the US now will proceed to covertly (or overtly) arm local Defence Militia's in Malmo, Rinkeby, Paris, Molenbeek, Rotherham, Germany, Holland etc. I suspect CENTCOM have been paying very close attention to the European terror threat, and they know exactly who the threats are, and who is sponsoring them.

A militarised rollback operation is the only hope for Europe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollback

I like your style. I'm hoping it's irony.

ilkhanid · 13-04-2017 8:04pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Jaysus why were they so worried about Kuwait. Only a few years previous they aided Saddam in his invasion and war against Iran :pac:

Just under 4000 civilians were killed in the first invasion. There was a strike on a bunker in Amiriyah by 2 U.S airforce jets that killed 408 Iraqi civilians.

The coalition liked Kuwait. Most countries didn't want to see a small state swallowed.They didn't like Saddam. If you'd been around in 1939, doubtless you'd have been complaining that since Britain and France had colonial empires and were therefore being inconsistent, then Hitler should allowed to keep Poland.
The Americans believed it was a command bunker. Considering the enormous amount of ordnance the USAF dropped Iraq, 4000 dead was an astonishingly small civilian death toll.

Gringo180 wrote: »

Imagine the Brits having the same attitude towards the IRA. Would you be saying the same if they decided to unleash this bomb in the countryside in Co Louth during the troubles?

If the IRA drove a hundred thousand people from their homes and filled mass graves across Ireland with bodies they might have had.

Digital Solitude · 13-04-2017 8:04pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Well if someone who is totally biased in her opinion is all you can find when I suppose neither of us have a leg to stand on so fellow Galwegian.

I'm sure I'd find more if I looked, you were looking to combat an argument that no one had made, I just wanted some info on the bomb, presumed more would find it interesting.

The region the bomb was dropped on, Achin is 350km^2, and has a population of 150,000. That's a lot of people to drop a bomb beside IMO, unless they really nailed IS.

*edit* http://www.pajhwok.com/en/2016/05/09/why-daesh-chose-achin-district-its-base-afghanistan

Need to stop half reading articles. This bombing was a good idea imo.

A Little Pony · 13-04-2017 8:04pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

As a famous general once said when asked a question similar, "kill em, kill em all". I follow that philosophy with ISIS. Too many weak minded people who are just too PC about it, too faff about it.

Imagine the Brits having the same attitude towards the IRA. Would you be saying the same if they decided to unleash this bomb in the countryside in Co Louth during the troubles?

:ninja: No. IRA and UVF were horrible bastards but they ended up settling a deal. What would you negotiate with ISIS?

Beyondgone · 13-04-2017 8:05pm

PucaMama wrote: »

Why would I believe some factory owner over anyone else? What's so special about him. Or is it he's just saying what some people want to hear.

He wasn't saying anything of the sort. He was whinging about his barrels of chlorine being robbed.

What they were used for didn't concern him, just the financial loss. Typical businessman.

Gatling · 13-04-2017 8:07pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

The region the bomb was dropped on, Achin is 350km^2, and has a population of 150,000. That's a lot of people to drop a bomb beside IMO, unless they really nailed IS.

But it the bomb detonated inside a cave complex ,the blast and pressure would be kept fairly contained to a fairly small area

PucaMama · 13-04-2017 8:08pm

Beyondgone wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

Why would I believe some factory owner over anyone else? What's so special about him. Or is it he's just saying what some people want to hear.

He wasn't saying anything of the sort. He was whinging about his barrels of chlorine being robbed. What they were used for didn't concern him, just the financial loss. Typical businessman.

He just wants his money back so he will say anything

um7y1h83ge06nx · 13-04-2017 8:09pm

A lot of love for ISIS around here.

Gatling · 13-04-2017 8:10pm

Fatima Uptight Hairpin wrote: »

A lot of love for ISIS around here.

Some prefer chemicals

sReq | uTeK · 13-04-2017 8:10pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Yes. 200k civilian deaths is nothing to be proud of.

Please show me the data you got that from

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 13-04-2017 8:11pm

For anyone who is interested, here is what the same bomb dropped on the Spire in O Connell Street would look like. The blast radius is actually quite small:

http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/gmap/hydesim.html?dll=40.71427,-74.00597&yd=0.011&zm=14&op=156

Edit: Damn thing keeps resetting to Manhattan. She wants to go to her spiritual home heheh

PucaMama · 13-04-2017 8:11pm

CNN just said bomb was in area to be used before trump was elected

Digital Solitude · 13-04-2017 8:12pm

astrofool wrote: »

2 of these? There's a very big chasm from this to nuclear, there are many arguments against using these bombs, but saying nuclear is next is a lie for many, many reasons.

Its considered a nuclear weapon, a small one.

Largest Non-Nuclear Bomb in world dropped on Afghanistan

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