Just had a bit of a barney with a neighbour

wandatowell · 13-03-2017 12:45pm

Had the exact same issue myself with kids running around my front garden as if it was their own. I politely asked the kids to stop as it was my garden and it wasn't right for them to play on it. They seemed to understand the logic and haven't done so again. They were aged between 6 to maybe 9.

No hassle if you keep your cool. Shouting at kids is only gonna peak their interest in fcukin with you. School boy error.

Graces7 · 13-03-2017 1:03pm

so many memories this thread brings back ! After one lot i started seeking houses with NO NEIGHBOURS.

_feedback_ · 13-03-2017 1:22pm

I had issues with a group of teenagers in a housing estate I was renting in, a good few years ago. Had tried all the options, of approaching their scummy parents, guards were involved due to damage to a car and it was just an absolute pain in the arse..

I was there on my own one evening and could hear they were doing some sort of damage to the outside of the house. I came up with a new idea that I hadn't tried before, and basically thought to myself that I'll go out and basically just go absolutely ballistic shouting and screaming in their faces, and basically freak the fúck out of them to the extent where they thought I would pull their heads off in a fit of rage if they didn't go away.

In reality, I am a very quiet person but they didn't particularly know this, as any dealings I had with them previously would have been heated, but not as heated as it was about to get.

I went out and started roaring (imagine the loudest roar you could do, not dissimilar to a lion or tiger) within inches of their faces. Veins popping in my red face and just generally absolutely losing my shít in a way I had never and will never be able to match again.

The lads got a great laugh out of it. It gave them the drive and ambition to achieve a bigger (not possible) reaction.

I moved out shortly after

BBDBB · 13-03-2017 1:36pm

Hey Mister!

13-03-2017 1:40pm

If your neighbour wasn't a bad fellow all along, there may be something to be said for calling round with a bottle of wine and the whole "look, didn't like the kids around my house, but not gonna fall out over it, no hard feelings"

That's assuming he's normal enough. Most would appreciate and perhaps tell the kids not to push it again. Battles with neighbours can fester and really sour living in an area.

blinding · 13-03-2017 1:44pm

Dress up like Rambo and throw a few bricks through your own window

Then hyperventilate with bulging eyes and tickle yourself until you think its funny

Video this and send it to your neighbours.......................

BBDBB · 13-03-2017 1:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If your neighbour wasn't a bad fellow all along, there may be something to be said for calling round with a bottle of wine and the whole "look, didn't like the kids around my house, but not gonna fall out over it, no hard feelings"

That's assuming he's normal enough. Most would appreciate and perhaps tell the kids not to push it again. Battles with neighbours can fester and really sour living in an area.

but not the '73, that was a very good vintage, too good to waste on scum like that

razorblunt · 13-03-2017 1:48pm

Glenster wrote: »

THEY LEANED ON YOUR WINDOWSILL?

Lets get a posse rounded up, these monsters have to pay.

Thats how ISIS started.

Why the fúck should you put up with someone leaning on your windowsill?

13-03-2017 1:48pm

BBDBB wrote: »

but not the '73, that was a very good vintage, too good to waste on scum like that

Oh €6.99 max spend!

BBDBB · 13-03-2017 1:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh €6.99 max spend!

Its the thought that counts!

Graces7 · 13-03-2017 1:59pm

_feedback_ wrote: »

I had issues with a group of teenagers in a housing estate I was renting in, a good few years ago. Had tried all the options, of approaching their scummy parents, guards were involved due to damage to a car and it was just an absolute pain in the arse..

I was there on my own one evening and could hear they were doing some sort of damage to the outside of the house. I came up with a new idea that I hadn't tried before, and basically thought to myself that I'll go out and basically just go absolutely ballistic shouting and screaming in their faces, and basically freak the fúck out of them to the extent where they thought I would pull their heads off in a fit of rage if they didn't go away.

In reality, I am a very quiet person but they didn't particularly know this, as any dealings I had with them previously would have been heated, but not as heated as it was about to get.

I went out and started roaring (imagine the loudest roar you could do, not dissimilar to a lion or tiger) within inches of their faces. Veins popping in my red face and just generally absolutely losing my shít in a way I had never and will never be able to match again.

The lads got a great laugh out of it. It gave them the drive and ambition to achieve a bigger (not possible) reaction.

I moved out shortly after

That is the funniest thing I have read in years! Glad you escaped though. There are times when retreat is the only true victory. Learned that the hard way!

TerrorFirmer · 13-03-2017 2:21pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Why the fúck should you put up with someone leaning on your windowsill?

I want to know why a group of young lads were leaning on his windowsill and peering within in the first place.

What sordid display was the OP putting on....

BlinkingLights · 13-03-2017 2:23pm

Send him a bill for new hall door. They cost roughly €3000

Lorelli! · 13-03-2017 3:15pm

Whatever you do OP, if he comes over again, dont stand at your windowsill filming him and telling him repeatedly to "go ****" himself. That tends to provoke more a la "Cuffy" style:/ :pac:

Allinall · 13-03-2017 3:24pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Why the fúck should you put up with someone leaning on your windowsill?

i have lots of window sills, but don't check them for fingerprints every morning.

Some people have serious issues that need dealing with.

blinding · 13-03-2017 3:33pm

Lorelli! wrote: »

Whatever you do OP, if he comes over again, dont stand at your windowsill filming him and telling him repeatedly to "go ****" himself. That tends to provoke more a la "Cuffy" style:/ :pac:

Does he realise how difficult it is to "go **** yourself " and how much money he could make if he actually could...........:eek:

jimgoose · 13-03-2017 3:40pm

SAMTALK · 13-03-2017 4:41pm

I can't believe the amount of people telling OP he was out of line.
He asked the kids to stop and they came back a 2nd time. I'd call that lack of respect from the kids to the OP.

If it was my house and kids of that age were hovering around the place peering in the windows Id have an issue with that as well. They are old enough to know that this is wrong and when asked to stop the first time they should have left and not tried it again

What is wrong with society today that kids are let think they can act this way and then when it goes wrong mammy or daddy jump in to defend them straight away.
If I told my parents that a neighbour had shouted at me I would have got a belt and told I deserved it or if I didnt that day I would some other day!

anewme · 13-03-2017 5:13pm

SAMTALK wrote: »

If I told my parents that a neighbour had shouted at me I would have got a belt and told I deserved it or if I didnt that day I would some other day!

Things were done differently in those days allright! NO CHEEK to adults allowed.

And the other side of it too....if some owlfella from the Estate called to our Door and had the audacity to kick it for whatever reason, as someone said above, get outa that garden, a persons home was their castle , he would be picking himself up off the ground and retreating....quickly. No Gardai involved either. Have seen it happen

RoYoBo · 13-03-2017 5:14pm

_feedback_ wrote: »

I had issues with a group of teenagers in a housing estate I was renting in, a good few years ago. Had tried all the options, of approaching their scummy parents, guards were involved due to damage to a car and it was just an absolute pain in the arse..

I was there on my own one evening and could hear they were doing some sort of damage to the outside of the house. I came up with a new idea that I hadn't tried before, and basically thought to myself that I'll go out and basically just go absolutely ballistic shouting and screaming in their faces, and basically freak the fúck out of them to the extent where they thought I would pull their heads off in a fit of rage if they didn't go away.

In reality, I am a very quiet person but they didn't particularly know this, as any dealings I had with them previously would have been heated, but not as heated as it was about to get.

I went out and started roaring (imagine the loudest roar you could do, not dissimilar to a lion or tiger) within inches of their faces. Veins popping in my red face and just generally absolutely losing my shít in a way I had never and will never be able to match again.

The lads got a great laugh out of it. It gave them the drive and ambition to achieve a bigger (not possible) reaction.

I moved out shortly after

I soooo wanted this to have worked!

Glenster · 13-03-2017 7:53pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Why the fúck should you put up with someone leaning on your windowsill?

Maybe you should chill out.

J Mysterio · 13-03-2017 8:01pm

Glenster wrote: »

Maybe you should chill out.

Hahaha

Grandeeod · 13-03-2017 8:11pm

OP you were right. The Dad was a fooking arsehole. I would not tolerate any **** behaviour from my child. I bet he just reacted to a BS story from the kids and came down like a tough guy. His kids will turn out to be self entitled little dickweeds. Thankfully there are lots of kids well reared. Those aren't. And the father kicking your door kinda sums up why.

Glenster · 13-03-2017 8:21pm

Rule of thumb:

Don't pick fights with children.

silvervixen84 · 13-03-2017 8:22pm

He's dead right to ask the kids to get off his lawn. You can be sure that in this Compensation Nation if one of them fell and broke a bone, the OP would be getting a solicitor's letter in the door.

MilesMorales1 · 13-03-2017 8:24pm

You could be 100% right OP and them kids were being little *****. But as someone else said, never pick a fight with kids, cos it doesn't matter how right you are, you're always gonna come out of it worse off.

J Mysterio · 13-03-2017 8:25pm

I wonder what the OP has in his house these kids are peering in at? What piqued their interest?

They probably thought they were in some grand Enid Blyton adventure.. Clearing the dreadful wall, past the ghastly brambles and then.. ' Fook off'! ... 'and take yer fookin bike'!

sdanseo · 13-03-2017 8:28pm

C'mon folks, stop overacting.

There's nothing to this issue that isn't easily solved by the liberal application of a flamethrower.

Pat Mustard · 13-03-2017 8:41pm

Play Daniel O'Donnell at top volume on continuous loop.

Daniel can disperse any mob.

VonLuck · 13-03-2017 10:00pm

It's fair enough asking the kids to get off your lawn, but it sounds like you did it in an aggressive way if you told them to FO the first time like you said.

Is it a regular thing with them?

Poor Uncle Tom · 13-03-2017 10:22pm

GTA answer:

Bazooka the father, machete the offspring, live happily ever after with your dog......

win, win.... just update the father on your version, guaranteed you won't be bothered by the kids again...

13-03-2017 10:29pm

The one thing I can't stop trying to figure out about all of this is the actual conversation that took place between the child and the father that convinced the father to put down his Dutch Gold and go have a shouting match with the OP. How did the child explain that he was trespassing in someones garden, staring in their window no less, then went back and did it a second time, and somehow comes away from this as the injured party?**

** No need to reply, it's just a rhetorical question, I'm just a bit intrigued by the father's perception of being the victim here.

Grandeeod · 13-03-2017 10:32pm

VonLuck wrote: »

It's fair enough asking the kids to get off your lawn, but it sounds like you did it in an aggressive way if you told them to FO the first time like you said.

Is it a regular thing with them?

I don't recall reading that the OP said FO at all.

Dyr · 13-03-2017 10:37pm

Specialun wrote: »

He this boots my front door and storms off

What a massive dick.

Have you had any instances like this. Are your neighbours dicks

No suprise his sproggs are dickheads anyway

Better put his windows in tonight. Just to be sure.

Dyr · 13-03-2017 10:43pm

Lorelli! wrote: »

Whatever you do OP, if he comes over again, dont stand at your windowsill filming him and telling him repeatedly to "go ****" himself. That tends to provoke more a la "Cuffy" style:/ :pac:

This is pure genius, the guy sounds like he's impersonating johnny depps take on hunter s thompson

Jimoslimos · 13-03-2017 11:33pm

Specialun wrote: »

So i was up stairs an hour ago and i could hear my dog going nuts barking..a ran down, opened the door to see 3 kids staring in my living room window..they were actually leaning on the window sill. I went out a said go away..10 mins later its off again..i stormed out and shouted at them " i said go away, this isnt your house and get off my lawn" . I caught a kids bike and pushed it back into the middle of the green

Maybe they were looking for their ball back

Specialun wrote: »

Well i dont know what to get my pooch. Shes a lab/golden She has 13 teddies/squeky toys, 2 beds( unused as she kips at end of the bed) big tin of treats, three leads, collars, 3 footballs (shes nicked em off the neighbours as they booted em over the wall)

Charles Babbage · 13-03-2017 11:40pm

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kittensmittens · 13-03-2017 11:56pm

anewme wrote: »

Things were done differently in those days allright! NO CHEEK to adults allowed.

And the other side of it too....if some owlfella from the Estate called to our Door and had the audacity to kick it for whatever reason, as someone said above, get outa that garden, a persons home was their castle , he would be picking himself up off the ground and retreating....quickly. No Gardai involved either. Have seen it happen

In my experience, if a neighbour had reason to call to your door to see your parents about you back then, they had just cause.
And by god, you would have been pulled out of the sitting room if Mr Murphy called to the house over you doing wrong, to face him at the hall door while he spoke to your parent.
If found to be guilty of wrong doing during this impromptu hall door trial, by hell, you would have got it goodo from your parents.

Firstly, for doing something wrong on the neighbour.
And secondly......and much more importantly......for bringing them to the door in the first place and making a show of your parents :eek:

bodhrandude · 14-03-2017 2:01am

There was a similar thread to this a few months ago, I think Andy from Sligo was the OP, his dog was going berserk at nosey kids outside his house. It makes you think, what is the actual point in these neighbourhood watch scheme things if this sorta craic is happening.

14-03-2017 6:56am

bodhrandude wrote: »

It makes you think, what is the actual point in these neighbourhood watch scheme things if this sorta craic is happening.

Neighbourhood Watch tries to prevent crime.

There is no suggestion a crime happened here.

anewme · 14-03-2017 7:40am

kittensmittens wrote: »

In my experience, if a neighbour had reason to call to your door to see your parents about you back then, they had just cause.
And by god, you would have been pulled out of the sitting room if Mr Murphy called to the house over you doing wrong, to face him at the hall door while he spoke to your parent.
If found to be guilty of wrong doing during this impromptu hall door trial, by hell, you would have got it goodo from your parents.

Firstly, for doing something wrong on the neighbour.
And secondly......and much more importantly......for bringing them to the door in the first place and making a show of your parents :eek:

Not always...there were two sets of people....those who had just cause...and those(who in the words of my Dad should have a dress on(i.e. Would call about kids fighting even though their own kids were as bad as everyone else's)

Said incident occurred when one moaning neighbour called to the house when the Dad was in work and only the Mam was at home. He proceeded to rant about everyone else's kids and got quite abusive to the woman(said a curse!) think he banged in the side glass as well. . Now, that was seen as just disgraceful. Abusing a woman at her own front door while her husband was in work ? Not the done thing.

Having been given short shrift by the woman, the neighbour made the big mistake of calling back when the husband came home. He got planted into next week week by the husband, "call to the door and abuse a woman(big man!) ". Well you won't abuse MY wife in MY House.

No Gards involved, no solicitors , and everyone just went back to normal.

nice_guy80 · 14-03-2017 7:45am

Have you a daughter at home?

14-03-2017 8:07am

anewme wrote: »

He proceeded to rant about everyone else's kids and got quite abusive to the woman(said a curse!) think he banged in the side glass as well. . Now, that was seen as just disgraceful. Abusing a woman at her own front door while her husband was in work ? Not the done thing.

The neighbour might have seen the OPs behaviour as abusing his kids, not the done thing, why didn't the OP call round and say it to him man to man etc. Not saying that perception would be accurate and fair. But wires get crossed, things get said.

Hence I still go back to my "call round, give bottle of wine, try to preserve good relations, draw a line and move on".

pxdf9i5cmoavkz · 14-03-2017 12:15pm

kittensmittens wrote: »

We, as a society, seem to have accepted these "parents" who allow their kids to run amok as "ah, its kids being kids" as the norm.
Eh no. A football going over the wall was kids being kids(and as someone who said earlier, there was actually an old dude on our road who used to put a knife in the balls over his back.....problem solved,,,,kids played ball elsewhere. Now kids just get another ball). There was always "Knick Nak" but again thats all harmless.

Kids are getting away with far too much and I'm going to be the one who says it......its due to lazy ass parenting :eek::eek::eek::D

QFE

anewme · 14-03-2017 12:17pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The neighbour might have seen the OPs behaviour as abusing his kids, not the done thing, why didn't the OP call round and say it to him man to man etc. Not saying that perception would be accurate and fair. But wires get crossed, things get said.

Hence I still go back to my "call round, give bottle of wine, try to preserve good relations, draw a line and move on".

You cant call to someones door and abuse them which the kids Father clearly did and still expect good relations.

Whatever wires get crossed, and we dont know if the kid ran home and siad, Mr. X shouted at me for nothing, the guy kicked the door thats out of order, the last thing you should do for someone who kicks your door is buy them a bottle of wine. Thats just condonding bullying and unacceptable behaviour and bowing and scraping to people who need a kick up the arse.

My point is, your home is your castle, dont call to anyones door and abuse them, you are on the wrong foot from then on.

faceman · 14-03-2017 12:21pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hence I still go back to my "call round, give bottle of wine, try to preserve good relations, draw a line and move on".

This will only work if the OP does it naked.

SAMTALK · 14-03-2017 12:30pm

anewme wrote: »

You cant call to someones door and abuse them which the kids Father clearly did and still expect good relations.

Whatever wires get crossed, and we dont know if the kid ran home and siad, Mr. X shouted at me for nothing, the guy kicked the door thats out of order, the last thing you should do for someone who kicks your door is buy them a bottle of wine. Thats just condonding bullying and unacceptable behaviour and bowing and scraping to people who need a kick up the arse.

My point is, your home is your castle, dont call to anyones door and abuse them, you are on the wrong foot from then on.

Why would OP take a bottle of wine to his neighbour?

OP did absoutely nothing wrong here.

1. Asked kids to leave and they came back and had to be asked again to leave OP's property

2. Parent arrives at door to attack OP without finding out the other side of the story (because as we all know kids will always tell the truth), and then proceeds to kick the door.

If anyone should be grovelling its the parent with the kids long with him

Graces7 · 14-03-2017 1:06pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The neighbour might have seen the OPs behaviour as abusing his kids, not the done thing, why didn't the OP call round and say it to him man to man etc. Not saying that perception would be accurate and fair. But wires get crossed, things get said.

Hence I still go back to my "call round, give bottle of wine, try to preserve good relations, draw a line and move on".

Had the man not shown violence and kicked the door maybe. But that took it to a whole different level, and it would look as if the OP was caving into threats and violence

Roger Hassenforder · 14-03-2017 2:50pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If your neighbour wasn't a bad fellow all along, there may be something to be said for calling round with a bottle of wine and the whole "look, didn't like the kids around my house, but not gonna fall out over it, no hard feelings"

That's assuming he's normal enough. Most would appreciate and perhaps tell the kids not to push it again. Battles with neighbours can fester and really sour living in an area.

If the desired outcome is that the kids feck off, this is probably most likely to achieve that outcome.

I don't think you're out of line OP, but sometimes you got to pull on your big boy pants and be the bigger man, coz scrote next door certainly ain't. I wouldn't be apologetic though, just assertive and want to talk about this Mano a mano, and ask he keeps the kids back in case they see something they shouldn't.

If that fails we can get really inventive.
I've an Ak47* you could borrow a few nights, make sure you're spotted taking it on out of the car...

**BB

Hungrycol · 14-03-2017 4:44pm

Options:

1. When he started shouting in your face at the door put on a full Christy Brown.
Result: Parent won't know how to react and tell their kids to leave you alone.

2. Go out to the kids and calmly tell them you're starving the dog and that's why he barking at you, if he gets out he'll eat the first one he catches.
Result: Kids look at each other and wonder whos the slowest.

3. Dance in your living room naked.
Result: It will create the equivalent to a deflector shield around your home.

4. Invest in some white overalls, industrial rubber gloves, a saw and some red paint. Let your, and their, imagination go wild.
Result: You'll be the house every kids on the block will be afraid of. As an added bonus ask the kids to help you dig a hole in your garden, look at them as though you're measuring them.

5. Put a shabby homemade cross in your front garden.
Result: Will help as an add-on for option 4.

6. Try the Jahovah Witness tact to converting the kids.
Result: It'll confuse their little heads and their parents will be worried the kids will either start shaving their little heads.

7. Get a clipboard and sign them up for Concern/Medicine sans Frontiers.
Result: Parents will be worried their kids have signed them up to regular direct debits. Might result in a parental visit but you can resort to option 1 if it does.

Just had a bit of a barney with a neighbour

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