Tyrone GAA Discussion Thread

Victimisation. Surely not!

Persecution. Surely not!

CONSPIRACY!

Is tin foil hat Mickey speaking to the Meeja yet? It'd be good value tonight if he is. (Only light ribbing Jayop don't take it personally)

On the game, we know Tyrone can do that, and do it brilliantly. All I think it's done is given Dublin a good run early season run out which will give them a boost.

Bambi wrote: »

I was at the game.. Didnt see any replays. The red was bang on and it was the linesman who gave it. there'd been a shemozzle going on for a good bit and cooper got a wallop in the face at the end of it.

McQuillan was acting the bollix on Cluxtons kickouts all night. At one point there was a tussle and he decided after his usual two minutes of showboating to book a tyrone player, cluxton takes the kickout, and straight away he blows up because he waited until the kick out to book the dublin player too.

I'm not be surprised if Tyrone felt he rode them too. He's a malignant little so and so.

I was at the game too - it wasn't a shemozzle, Cooper bodychecked Bradley hard off the ball. Cooper should have got blackcard as per rules if not red. Bradley was stupid and reacted by pushing Cooper in the face for which Cooper made a meal of. Cooper incited but got away with it

As for McQuillan pulling back play to book a Dublin player, the Dub ran away before McQuillan could show him the yellow card, that's why he pulled it back. But I definitely didn't think that decision was a game changer

Jayop wrote: »

The red was the game changer. Simple as.

McQuillan had a stinker, that's for sure. It's hard enough to beat the Dubs with 15 never mind 14. Bradley was having a really bad night, he missed some easy scores especially the one in the second half from about 20mts out in front of goals. Probably a bit of frustration was why he reacted the way he did.

Though saying that, McShane, McCurry and Bradley were all poor. That's Tyrone's problem in a nutshell, a non-existant full forward line and O'Neill isn't any better either. Until they sort that out, it's always going to be difficult to beat the Dubs, Kerry or Mayo.

But Tyrone have got some really strong runners and McClure is a nice find this season. They tore through Dublin a good few times and were impressive. It would be nice to see Sean Cavanagh stay up full forward and not have to drop and have someone with a bit of legs beside him

Jayop wrote: »

The red was the game changer. Simple as.

You are been very selective on what you see. Tyrone dug their own hole tonight. Should have won but didnt. Simple as. Their fault.

The linesman got that eejet sent off not McQuillan. The reason most people slate you's is you always look for the excuse, the referee, the opposition. Time you looked closer to home. McMahon should have been black carded at least once if not twice. In general the G.A.A public dont like the negativity around their game. Kilkenny had similar dislike of their "style" but at least they mixed it a bit more.

There is no doubt in my mind Tyrone have close to the best group of players in Ireland. The skill set is very high, the panel is very strong. Yet this horrible negative game, pulling and dragging, in your face tactics just doesnt work. I honestly think if Harte concentrated on developing his sides attacking strengths and less of the negative defensive game Tyrone would be more successful. It appears to neutrals whether intended or not the first job is to rile up the opposition. This type of thing can stick to players and follows them around.

This Tyrone squad could win a few All-irelands in coming years but if they play these tactics I hope not. Give me 03' 05 teams anyday or the team a few years 86 earlier with Donaghy, McKenna Lynch, Donnolly' O'Hagan Podge Quinn great side but very unlucky

LeoB wrote: »

You are been very selective on what you see. Tyrone dug their own hole tonight. Should have won but didnt. Simple as. Their fault.

The linesman got that eejet sent off not McQuillan. The reason most people slate you's is you always look for the excuse, the referee, the opposition. Time you looked closer to home. McMahon should have been black carded at least once if not twice. In general the G.A.A public dont like the negativity around their game. Kilkenny had similar dislike of their "style" but at least they mixed it a bit more.

There is no doubt in my mind Tyrone have close to the best group of players in Ireland. The skill set is very high, the panel is very strong. Yet this horrible negative game, pulling and dragging, in your face tactics just doesnt work. I honestly think if Harte concentrated on developing his sides attacking strengths and less of the negative defensive game Tyrone would be more successful. It appears to neutrals whether intended or not the first job is to rile up the opposition. This type of thing can stick to players and follows them around.

This Tyrone squad could win a few All-irelands in coming years but if they play these tactics I hope not. Give me 03' 05 teams anyday or the team a few years 86 earlier with Donaghy, McKenna Lynch, Donnolly' O'Hagan Podge Quinn great side but very unlucky

Be Jaybus Leo, what would you be like if Dublin had lost!

And on the subject of looking closer to home, if you had of been looking closely at the game tonight and I'm sure you were, you would have noticed Dublin had 14 players in their own half alot of times in the game. And not just this game but many games last year too. As the saying goes 'if you have a reputation of getting up early you can get away with lying in bed all day'. It strikes me you're a bit selective yourself. James Mc Carthy is not shy about sticking his oar into things when he should be concentrating on his own game and Johnny Cooper tonight was a disgrace by your standards. But then again you only hold these high standards for other teams.

But you're right, throw enough muck and players will get a bad name - how's Philly McMahon doing these days?

Jayop wrote: »

Booing a free takers is pathetic and only happens when the dubs are playing afaic.

Booing amateur players for any reason is pathetic but especially at frees.

Ah now come on it happens everywhere.

Murphy's free in the Ulster final very late on.... hardly silence was it!

That_Guy wrote: »

It's part of the game. .

I agree, every supporter will try to do their bit for their team. That's why they boo the free taker or question every decision the ref makes whether it right or wrong.

They might be amateur players but they should still have a bit of bottle about them. They never put Peter Canavan off and Dean Rock, Cluxton, Cooper and Bryan Sheehan are all immense under pressure.

Last night Colm Cavanagh had the ball on the 45 and played it into his brother Sean who was standing on the 14mtr line. The Dub defender was just short of a saddle and was piggy backing Sean. Bizarrely, McQuillan gave the free on the 45 for something I didn't see. The point I'm making is that from that free Tyrone played the ball back ways and got nothing out of it when it should have been within kicking distance.

Tyrone don't have a free taker and anyone who does take them, doesn't have the bottle. It was noticable, Morgan never looked to take one especially that one on the 45.

Don't get me wrong, alot of strong positives to take out of the game last night and Tyrone are not far away but you have to take your chances and with frees their is no direct pressure on the taker. It's about strength of mind