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  • #4982
    BabyCheeses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »
    Why?

    You are aware that India has not been designated a high risk state?


    On a personal level I do feel sorry for people who had been promised they were going to get in, and Trump should override the policy for people who assisted US forces, but let's be realistic about it. Look at the utter state of mainland Europe now. The lone wolf attacks, the foiled ISIS plots involving Syrians, the rapes. We are in 2017 and the first reaction of a parent when their daughter tells them they are off to mainland Europe on holiday is to worry about whether they will be the victim of a rape or a terror attack.

    Donald Trump is the only Western leader who gives a toss about his people.

    Merkel couldn't give a toss about Germans.
    Mark Rutte of Holland is the same. Merkel and Rutte made half hearted gutless statements demanding migrants assimilate only when they started to worry about losing popularity.
    Frances Fitzgerald couldn't care less about Irish people. The AAA and PBP only care about the Irish scroungers who vote for them, they despise the rest of us.
    Justin Treadeau is arguably the worst of the lot. From openly stating he wouldn't order a military retaliation if ISIS attacked Canadian interests to stating that revoking the citizenship of terrorism tied Canadians devalues the citizenship of every Canadian. What a disgrace of a human.

    Good thing Trump banned Saudis from entering the country, could have prevented 9/11.

    No wait, Iranians, they are always involved in terrorist attack in America, such as....that time with the thing?


  • #4983
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I did not support it, I pointed out people in glass houses. The level of abuse on both sides is beyond a joke. But At least the Trump lads are not setting people on fire or smashed up Washington. Madonna threatened to burn down the white house that's just crazy.

    I'm not sure I follow.

    Are they...Merkel supporters who are going on the rampage? What's the Merkel link? Is Madonna a spokesperson for Merkel? You'll have to explain the connections a little better 'cos I'm not seeing them.


  • #4984
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    And yet Ireland is still a capitalist system, so why can't they implement the policies we have here? Would you be in favour of implementing these policies?

    Ask The Americans....


  • #4985
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "Say what you will about Trump, he is not stupid. He is a smart man with a deep understanding of what stupid people
    want." - Andy Borowitz

    This thread bears that out.


  • #4986
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm not sure I follow.

    Are they...Merkel supporters who are going on the rampage? What's the Merkel link? Is Madonna a spokesperson for Merkel? You'll have to explain the connections a little better 'cos I'm not seeing them.

    I'm talking in relation to the actual thread. Merkel should have her own thread.


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  • #4987
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Would liberals be willing to start another Civil war in America to remove Donald Trump? They talk a good game but would they be willing to fight and shed blood for it? That is the difference between now and 150 years ago when real men fought. They are a bunch of pussies who will do 'fookin nuttin'.


  • #4988
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    moneymad wrote: »
    Labor-Force-Dropouts-Drive-Lower-Unemployment-Rate-TheFederalist.png
    It's almost as if a big heap of people, who would have had to have been born at a similar time starting in the mid 1940s, in some kind, I don't know... big boom of babies? .. began hitting retirement age altogether.

    You're right. Must be another liberal conspiracy.

    EDIT: And I just noticed that's right wing website The Federalist trying to pretend ot be the Bureau of Labour Statistics! :pac:


  • #4989
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Candie wrote: »
    "Say what you will about Trump, he is not stupid. He is a smart man with a deep understanding of what stupid people
    want." - Andy Borowitz

    This thread bears that out.

    :pac:


  • #4990
    BabyCheeses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Would liberals be willing to start another Civil war in America to remove Donald Trump? They talk a good game but would they be willing to fight and shed blood for it? That is the difference between now and 150 years ago when real men fought. They are a bunch of pussies who will do 'fookin nuttin'.


    You mean ignore the democratic process? You complain when they won't respect the result and complain when they do. When you actually get a thought into that space between your ears let us know.


  • #4991
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Ask The Americans....

    I asked would you be in favour of implementing those policies. That doesn't require you to be American.


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  • #4992
    Woodville56
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Woodville56


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    BuilderPlumber wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    What a load of rubbish!

    No it isn't. People need to believe this current American regime is more than just one man. It is an entire entourage of very nasty people and the natural successor to the Dubya years. I hear everywhere people wishing for Trump to be shot dead. The minute that happens is when the REAL trouble starts. The regime will still be there and will then have an excuse to implement an emergency regime in the name of 'National Security'. Russia, China, Iran, anyone you want can be blamed for the assassination. Ethnic minorities could be rounded up and all along, Trump's killers would be from his own side. Trump is merely a novice dealing with ruthless and evil professionals whose aim seems to be total militarisation and extreme rightwing control of America.
    No one wanting to kill him will get within a mile of him.

    I wouldn't for a minute support an assassination attempt on him or any of his administration - besides he has Pence as no 2 - equally as racist and "undesireable". What will eventually bring this "reality tv star" to his senses( and hopefully his downfall ( politically) is International and American public opinion - if the world communities have the will to turn the tables of his isolationist policy back on him. Won't happen of course if the rest of the word go brown nosing him like Mrs May and a few other "desperate" types. The real undermining of Trump will be from within the Republican Party, when they realise what a stooge they've elected as their president. And that will only happen when world and influential US community business leaders and media fearlessly call his bluff and challenge his every move, showing him up for the fake he really is. I bet already there is discomfort on Capital Hill concerning the odium he's brought down on the country after only one week ? Sooner or later the Republican Party grandees will have had enough of his showboating, as will ordinary Americans. What happens then is the interesting bit !


  • #4993
    moneymad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭moneymad


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    Read the bloody figures you clown.
    Unemployment rate <5%
    Trump is not the president.
    It was all a bad dream. Everything is fine.


  • #4994
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    I asked would you be in favour of implementing those policies. That doesn't require you to be American.

    Well I could not Run for president so Irrelevant. From an American perspective it would never happen. Just like Barry left the min wage alone.


  • #4995
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    BabyCheeses wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Would liberals be willing to start another Civil war in America to remove Donald Trump? They talk a good game but would they be willing to fight and shed blood for it? That is the difference between now and 150 years ago when real men fought. They are a bunch of pussies who will do 'fookin nuttin'.


    You mean ignore the democratic process? You complain when they won't respect the result and complain when they do. When you actually get a thought into that space between your ears let us know.
    That is the thing, they don't seem to be accepting it.


  • #4996
    moneymad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭moneymad


    Billy86 wrote: »
    It's almost as if a big heap of people, who would have had to have been born at a similar time starting in the mid 1940s, in some kind, I don't know... big boom of babies? .. began hitting retirement age altogether.

    You're right. Must be another liberal conspiracy.

    EDIT: And I just noticed that's right wing website The Federalist trying to pretend ot be the Bureau of Labour Statistics! :pac:
    The numbers are distorting reality. Don't discriminate based on where the image was taken from. The numbers on the ground are not <5%. That's pure fantasy.


  • #4997
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    moneymad wrote: »
    That is idiotic. Why do you think they voted for Trump? At best it's 11% at worst it's in the 20's.
    Labor force participation rates are at generation lows.
    The unemployment rate is falling in tandem with the labor force participation rate. The dog on the street knows the 4.9% number is not a reflection of the us jobs market.

    Labor-Force-Dropouts-Drive-Lower-Unemployment-Rate-TheFederalist.png

    Are you just deciding to ignore the aging population in the US which might be why the labour participation force is dropping. Note that the majority of the decrease in the labour force can be explained by the increase in over 65s.

    http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.65UP.TO.ZS?locations=US


  • #4998
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Well I could not Run for president so Irrelevant. From an American perspective it would never happen. Just like Barry left the min wage alone.

    Dodging and ducking the question just like a slimy politician would.

    I'll ask you again though, would you be in favour of implementing the same policies we have here (which in your opinion makes things easier for the low income worker) over there?

    Nothing to do with logistics or the likelihood of it happening, just a simple easy theoretical question that need only be answered 'yes' or 'no'. Too difficult for you?


  • #4999
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    Dodging and ducking the question just like a slimy politician would.

    I'll ask you again though, would you be in favour of implementing the same policies we have here (which in your opinion makes things easier for the low income worker) over there?

    Nothing to do with logistics or the likelihood of it happening, just a simple easy theoretical question that need only be answered 'yes' or 'no'. Too difficult for you?

    That's defiantly the way to get me to answer :P


  • #5000
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    That's defiantly the way to get me to answer :P

    Yeah I never expected to get an answer from you. You Trumpski's are some of the slimiest clowns around here. Well anyway I'll assume you think they should, seeing as you don't seem to have opinions that 'McDonalds jobs are just for kids' like other gob****es on here, at least deep down I assume you think that.

    Whether your opinions change of Trump is not important to me, I'll just let you know that he's not gonna do any of that, in fact he's gonna make it a lot worse for low income workers, who ironically are the same people who voted for him. He'll take their healthcare away, raise their taxes through his tariffs and life will be even meaner for them. But that's just 'capitalism' I guess.


  • #5001
    BabyCheeses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    That is the thing, they don't seem to be accepting it.

    And you want them to resort to violence? People have the right to protest, they are protesting against his policies. They don't have much choice but to accept that he is president but they can still use their right to free speech to make it clear that they do not agree with his policies. This is not a difficult concept to grasp and is clear to nearly everyone but the Trump supporters here.

    They aren't the Bundys, sit around threatening eveyone with tier guns. You know what would happen if people attempted armed revolution, they would be gunned down in no time. I'm assuming you just want to watch liberals get gunned down anyway, the alternative is you lack any form of common sense.


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  • #5002
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    Yeah I never expected to get an answer from you. Well anyway I'll assume you think they should, seeing as you don't seem to have opinions that 'McDonalds jobs are just for kids' like other gob****es on here, at least deep down I assume you think that.

    Whether your opinions change of Trump is not important to me, I'll just let you know that he's not gonna do any of that, in fact he's gonna make it a lot worse for low income workers, who ironically are the same people who voted for him. He'll take their healthcare away, raise their taxes through his tariffs and life will be even meaner for them. But that's just 'capitalism' I guess.

    When have American Presidents not prayed at the alter of capitalism ? They are locked into an Ideal of the American Dream. Hard work and the reward of an Ideal life. Very little in that for the need to have a safety net or a high min wage.


  • #5003
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    well at least his keeping to his campaign promises...how many politicians can you say that about??


  • #5004
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    BabyCheeses wrote: »
    And you want them to resort to violence? People have the right to protest, they are protesting against his policies. They don't have much choice but to accept that he is president but they can still use their right to free speech to make it clear that they do not agree with his policies. This is not a difficult concept to grasp and is clear to nearly everyone but the Trump supporters here.

    They aren't the Bundys, sit around threatening eveyone with tier guns.     You know what would happen if people attempted armed revolution, they would be gunned down in no time. I'm assuming you just want to watch liberals get gunned down anyway, the alternative is you lack any form of common sense.

    Lighting people on fire smashing up Washington..


  • #5005
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,632 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    The American Dream is long dead. It was at its peak in the 1950s/early 60s, but since Vietnam America has been in a slow decline both in terms of morale and cohesivity.


  • #5006
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    moneymad wrote: »
    The numbers are distorting reality. Don't discriminate based on where the image was taken from. The numbers on the ground are not <5%. That's pure fantasy.
    Why do you think a lower percentage of people aged 65 over over are employed than people under the age of 65?


  • #5007
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    The American Dream is long dead. It was at its peak in the 1950s/early 60s, but since Vietnam America has been in a slow decline both in terms of morale and cohesivity.

    I never said it was not dead, It clearly is. The ones that got it closed the door behind them. You cannot get much done in the USA without a high level of education that costs a fortune.


  • #5008
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    When have American Presidents not prayed at the alter of capitalism ? They are locked into an Ideal of the American Dream. Hard work and the reward of an Ideal life. Very little in that for the need to have a safety net or a high min wage.

    Doesn't mean things shouldn't change, and Donald is certainly not the man to do it imo.

    Ironic thing about 'the American Dream' is that it all started with Roosevelt whose Govt. programs allowed everyone a fair shot at getting wealthy. It wasn't until Reagan came along and ****ed it all up for the average joe. Then Bill helped him finish it off.


  • #5009
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    Doesn't mean things shouldn't change, and Donald is certainly not the man to do it imo.

    Ironic thing about 'the American Dream' is that it all started with Roosevelt whose Govt. programs allowed everyone a fair shot at getting wealthy. It wasn't until Reagan came along and ****ed it all up for the average joe.

    And Hillary would have ?


  • #5010
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    BabyCheeses wrote: »
    And you want them to resort to violence? People have the right to protest, they are protesting against his policies. They don't have much choice but to accept that he is president but they can still use their right to free speech to make it clear that they do not agree with his policies. This is not a difficult concept to grasp and is clear to nearly everyone but the Trump supporters here.

    They aren't the Bundys, sit around threatening eveyone with tier guns.     You know what would happen if people attempted armed revolution, they would be gunned down in no time. I'm assuming you just want to watch liberals get gunned down anyway, the alternative is you lack any form of common sense.

    Lighting people on fire smashing up Washington..
    Exactly. Celebrity talked about blowing up the white house. Its been a disaster of an 18 months for the left in Western politics. They had a good run and now the right is in charge.


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  • #5011
    wildgreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭wildgreen


    RobertKK wrote: »
    The world will watch as the people of Yemen die from the effects of starvation and war.

    Do you really think we will bother to watch when we have Trump to thrill and enrage us? Who decides what the media watch?


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