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Woodville56

Trump's latest move at making America great is to give Breitbart's Steve Bannon and son in law Jared Kushner seats on the National Security Council, but excludes chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Director of National Intelligence except on an " as required" basis. Keeping it in the family eh ? Ya couldn't make it up ! Neither Bannon nor Kushner have any public service or security /intelligence experience, yet both now privy to inner sanctum on national security ? How can Republicans be happy with this ?

Little CuChulainn

Deleted User wrote: »

Haha, what in the actual fủck.


Here, I'll fix it for you to show how he doesn't know what to make of the executive order..

Picture of an Iraqi immigrant after getting out of JFK on the Guardian.

The Iraqi guy in the picture says he likes Trump but doesn't know this policy on CNN. The congresswoman is utterly shocked.


ABC News just decides to cut the interview short by those important 10 seconds where he says he likes Trump but doesn't know policy. What a coincidence.



There, truthful reporting by Ads by Google. I apologise for being as fake as ABC News.

You did the same as ABC. You cut it to suit your agenda.

HellSquirrel

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So, What you are saying is it's their own fault not having ID ? This is all very CT stuff.

Yes, when it's made deliberately harder for certain sections of the population to get ID, such as by closing down DMV offices in predominantly black or Democratic-voting areas. I could get into the long-term gerrymandering of districts by Republicans as well, but I suspect the DMV offices are going to be about enough for you to get your head around in one go.

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Its a good move if they can enforce it.

Does anyone know why he's signing so many executive orders. Obama did it because congress refused to work with him, but Trump has a majority. Working with Congress would have avoided leaving people stranded in airports.
Could it just be for the photo ops?

I strongly suspect it's because he doesn't understand the process very clearly and doesn't want to put in the work of having to understand it. In the short term, the US gets poorly thought out policies that have had no real political debate or opposition to iron out problematic points. In the long term, at least most of these policies can be fairly easily overturned by the next guy, assuming Trump doesn't manage to get Congress to agree to protection for a following term for the previous term's administrator or something devious along those lines.

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I did not support it, I pointed out people in glass houses. The level of abuse on both sides is beyond a joke. But At least the Trump lads are not setting people on fire or smashed up Washington. Madonna threatened to burn down the white house that's just crazy.

Well, there was a mosque burned down last night in Texas. In all likelyhood, that was probably not Muslims. I'm sure you're going to bring up that case of vandalism ad nauseum forever, but that was statistically unusual.

moneymad wrote: »

The numbers are distorting reality. Don't discriminate based on where the image was taken from. The numbers on the ground are not <5%. That's pure fantasy.

Except it isn't. He really did get elected with that number because there were a lot of lies told about it. He didn't really need to tell that many, he said a random ridiculously high number and his followers lapped it up.

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

Because if McDonalds staff earn 18.50 an hour

a- Nobody will bother doing a 4 year apprenticeship, or

b- To retain/ attract staff, the going rate for a tradesman will go up to 30 euro per hour.

An awful lot of us, especially those who have had to work minimum wage jobs as an adult because of this whole recession business that hit most of us (presumably didn't hit you, else you'd know how hard things have been for the majority of people trying to get into the workforce) study and do apprenticeships because we want other things than just minimum wage. Everyone should be able to live on the proceeds of a full-time job. If you want more and you have the opportunity for more (and not everyone gets that opportunity), that's when studying and further education gets in. It's not absoutely money-based. But for those who -are- stuck in a McDonalds job, they should be able to live on it.

Christy42 wrote: »

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trudeau-canada-refugees-banned-u-s/

Canada to do the right thing and take the refugees the US is turning away.

Jfk has turned into a protest zone. This policy has been put through with no serious discussion of the details and chaos has been the result of it. Dude might last another 4 years but he will do and has done massive damage already. So far Trump seems to be trying to rule by decree. I get the need of executive actions but Trump has both houses of parliament controlled by his party so it does not seem to be necessary to be doling out the same style of orders he gave out about at a faster rate than anyone else.


I guess credit where credit is due, the no lobbying one is a good one. Damn near everything else he has done has been terrible.

The no lobbying one is remarkably progressive, although one may as well take into account that it conveniently doesn't affect him since the lobbyists are all in Washington doing the jobs they used to lobby at!

And thank god for Canada.

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Did the miss the amnesty ? better turn up to virtue signal though.

It's very strange to one of your mindset, but yes, certain people, when they see something going on that is hurting people, that is -extremely- dubiously legal and is deeply unpopular will protest to give voices to the people who don't currently have any.

It's called "social responsibility", and there seems to be a very good vaccination against it on the far right-wing. I think the vaccination is called "BUT OBUMMER"

masculinist wrote: »

I dont mind any policy so long as its consistent. I dont see any of these Merkelly types calling out the 8 or so Muslims countries which ban Israeli citizens.

"Muslim countries do it so I should be grand when mine does it, or where a country that claims to be the "leader of the free world" (lol) does it. I think we should bring back capital punishment in Ireland, after all, the US does it!!"

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd say anyone with an interest in staying in the USA will say they love the country and the President.

Probably, not to mention they are coming from countries where the government will actually have you (or let you be) shot or assassinated. Trump looks good against Syria. Big surprise. Doesn't look good against anywhere else.

Woodville56 wrote: »

Trump's latest move at making America great is to give Breitbart's Steve Bannon and son in law Jared Kushner seats on the National Security Council, but excludes chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Director of National Intelligence except on an " as required" basis. Keeping it in the family eh ? Ya couldn't make it up !

:rolleyes:
People are tired of experts. Trump doesn't even understand them.

Cartouche

Are there a lot of ISIS attacks inside the US ? I dont understand Trumps paranoia on this
If he wants to make America safe why doesnt he do an executive order banning guns ?

Little CuChulainn

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You did the same as ABC. You cut it to suit your agenda.

And my agenda is "haha, CNN screwed up and ABC cut the interview. haha".

Do you think I'm trying to use it as proof that Trump is great or something? It's funny and that's it. Why does it have to be so black and white?

C. Montgomery Gurns

Cartouche wrote: »

Are there a lot of ISIS attacks inside the US ? I dont understand Trumps paranoia on this

At least 11, although they are ISIS inspired, rather than a bunch of men sitting in a compound in Syria selecting men to infiltrate the US and wait for orders a la 9/11.. In a population of 3.3 million Muslims that is quite a high figure.

Cartouche

Cartouche wrote: »

Are there a lot of ISIS attacks inside the US ? I dont understand Trumps paranoia on this
If he wants to make America safe why doesnt he do an executive order banning guns ?

He wants to make sure that what happened Europe doesn't happen America.. There are of course Trump-haters who will start believing Europe did fine through the crisis but they're idiots.
And banning guns would do very little and is against the constitution. That conversation has been had a million times over the last few decades.

masculinist

HellSquirrel wrote: »

"Muslim countries do it so I should be grand when mine does it, or where a country that claims to be the "leader of the free world" (lol) does it. I think we should bring back capital punishment in Ireland, after all, the US does it!!"

Its' Muslim countries, Sharia law pushers and their alllies who whinge the loudest about this. I wont' shed a tear for them.

Christy42

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He wants to make sure that what happened Europe doesn't happen America.. There are of course Trump-haters who will start believing Europe did fine through the crisis but they're idiots.
And banning guns would do very little and is against the constitution. That conversation has been had a million times over the last few decades.

Does anyone want to explain what listing crimes caused by immigrants does to make the us safer.

Also what does banning Iranians do?

Also surely Saudi would be on that list. If you assume that the list is about stopping terrorists from going to the US it makes no sense.

Little CuChulainn

Deleted User wrote: »

And my agenda is "haha, CNN screwed up and ABC cut the interview. haha".

Do you think I'm trying to use it as proof that Trump is great or something? It's funny and that's it. Why does it have to be so black and white?

Because that has been your stance throughout the thread.

Christy42 wrote: »

Does anyone want to explain what listing crimes caused by immigrants does to make the us safer.

Also what does banning Iranians do?

Also surely Saudi would be on that list. If you assume that the list is about stopping terrorists from going to the US it makes no sense.

It's like locking your house up and then giving a key to the biggest burglar in the area because you like buying stolen goods from him.

ChikiChiki

Not having Saudi Arabia on the list speaks volumes.

C. Montgomery Gurns

I'm actually on the brink of unfollowing every Irish page off FB. For the last week the IT, that joe.ie rubbish, jesus even Lovin Dublin (which is meant to be about bars, food and things to do) has posted nothing but Trump take downs since Friday last week.

He won.

He is more successful than you are, more intelligent than you are, and more admired than you are. In 8 years he will go down as one of the finest presidents in US history and most of his detractors will be too embarrassed to admit it. 8 years from now America will be industrially stronger, will be engaged in less foreign conflicts than at any point prior to WW 2, and will be reaping the rewards of a slumping crime rate and a slashed welfare bill.

Get the **** over it.

AlekSmart

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You cut his quote short too.

"I like Trump but I don't know. This is a policy I don't know. He is a president and I am a normal person."

An accurate quote,would you suggest ?.....The Gent likes Trump....He's not sure about this policy though .....Trump is president...He is a normal person.

All good ?

Which element of this Mans views do you disagree with....his affection for Donald Trump or his uncertainty over Mr Trump's policy in this case...?

Mind you,the interviewee could have said he Disliked Mr Trumps policy.....but he did'nt.....wonder why ?

as in..."I HATE him,this policy of his STINKS..Trump should NOT be President so says I,a normal person"

Would that be somewhat more suited to what you wish everybody to feel/say...?

Either way,the interview is not really about this Interviewee's actual statement at all....it is ALL about the absolutely fantastical visual moment provided by the Senator Nydia Velazquez ...Pure unadulterated Monty Pythonism in Full unedited Technicolor

Little CuChulainn

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

I'm actually on the brink of unfollowing every Irish page off FB. For the last week the IT, that joe.ie rubbish, jesus even Lovin Dublin (which is meant to be about bars, food and things to do) has posted nothing but Trump take downs since Friday last week.

He won.

He is more successful than you are, more intelligent than you are, and more admired than you are. In 8 years he will go down as one of the finest presidents in US history and most of his detractors will be too embarrassed to admit it. 8 years from now America will be industrially stronger, will be engaged in less foreign conflicts than at any point prior to WW 2, and will be reaping the rewards of a slumping crime rate and a slashed welfare bill.

Get the **** over it.

It's very possible he will get a second term but it won't be because he is popular, it will because he has actively suppressed opposition. I have a feeling he will be remembered for a few things. He will start a war. Terrorist attacks will be higher than ever although they will probably target American foreign interests. Roe v Wade will either be watered down or overruled completely. Gun ownership and gun deaths will go up. The gap between rich and poor will increase. They are just a few predictions.

Sand

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

I'm actually on the brink of unfollowing every Irish page off FB. For the last week the IT, that joe.ie rubbish, jesus even Lovin Dublin (which is meant to be about bars, food and things to do) has posted nothing but Trump take downs since Friday last week.

He won.

He is more successful than you are, more intelligent than you are, and more admired than you are. In 8 years he will go down as one of the finest presidents in US history and most of his detractors will be too embarrassed to admit it. 8 years from now America will be industrially stronger, will be engaged in less foreign conflicts than at any point prior to WW 2, and will be reaping the rewards of a slumping crime rate and a slashed welfare bill.

Get the **** over it.

It sounds like they're really getting to you.

B0jangles

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

I'm actually on the brink of unfollowing every Irish page off FB. For the last week the IT, that joe.ie rubbish, jesus even Lovin Dublin (which is meant to be about bars, food and things to do) has posted nothing but Trump take downs since Friday last week.

He won.

He is more successful than you are, more intelligent than you are, and more admired than you are. In 8 years he will go down as one of the finest presidents in US history and most of his detractors will be too embarrassed to admit it. 8 years from now America will be industrially stronger, will be engaged in less foreign conflicts than at any point prior to WW 2, and will be reaping the rewards of a slumping crime rate and a slashed welfare bill.

Get the **** over it.

10 days into his presidency and he's being sued by two states, had his anti-muslim executive order overturned by multiple courts and is being protested daily by tens of thousands of US citizens for variety of his actions.

He has a historically low approval rating which is dropping by the day.

He is actively stirring up conflict with Mexico and China.

10 days.

Enjoy your alt-facts though.

Little CuChulainn

AlekSmart wrote: »

An accurate quote,would you suggest ?.....The Gent likes Trump....He's not sure about this policy though .....Trump is president...He is a normal person.

All good ?

Which element of this Mans views do you disagree with....his affection for Donald Trump or his uncertainty over Mr Trump's policy in this case...?

Mind you,the interviewee could have said he Disliked Mr Trumps policy.....but he did'nt.....wonder why ?

as in..."I HATE him,this policy of his STINKS..Trump should NOT be President so says I,a normal person"

Would that be somewhat more suited to what you wish everybody to feel/say...?

Either way,the interview is not really about this Interviewee's actual statement at all....it is ALL about the absolutely fantastical visual moment provided by the Senator Nydia Velazquez ...Pure unadulterated Monty Pythonism in Full unedited Technicolor

So you are saying it's ok to cut quotes. Grand.

ricero

Got to say im delighted to see trump and putin had a positive talk over the phone. Great to see the usa and russia rebuilding a good relationship after the disaster of the obama administration.

Russia and the usa working together makes the world a safer place and the donald and putin teaming up will destroy isis.

Sonics2k

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

I'm actually on the brink of unfollowing every Irish page off FB. For the last week the IT, that joe.ie rubbish, jesus even Lovin Dublin (which is meant to be about bars, food and things to do) has posted nothing but Trump take downs since Friday last week.

He won.

He is more successful than you are, more intelligent than you are, and more admired than you are. In 8 years he will go down as one of the finest presidents in US history and most of his detractors will be too embarrassed to admit it. 8 years from now America will be industrially stronger, will be engaged in less foreign conflicts than at any point prior to WW 2, and will be reaping the rewards of a slumping crime rate and a slashed welfare bill.

Get the **** over it.

Possibly the most insulting thing anyone has ever said, ever.

B_Wayne

ricero wrote: »

Got to say im delighted to see trump and putin had a positive talk over the phone. Great to see the usa and russia rebuilding a good relationship after the disaster of the obama administration.

Russia and the usa working together makes the world a safer place and the donald and putin teaming up will destroy isis.

The same Russia that decriminalised domestic violence in the last week. A country to be aspired to....

Trent Houseboat

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

He won.

He is more successful than you are, more intelligent than you are, and more admired than you are. In 8 years he will go down as one of the finest presidents in US history and most of his detractors will be too embarrassed to admit it. 8 years from now America will be industrially stronger, will be engaged in less foreign conflicts than at any point prior to WW 2, and will be reaping the rewards of a slumping crime rate and a slashed welfare bill.

Get the **** over it.

Have a sit down love you're making a scene.

LOL at one week in and the meltdowns have begun. Your salty tears are delicious, I look forward to Trumpflakes regularly breaking down when people aren't nice about L. Don over the next couple of years.
If he doesn't bork the world economy or start a war its going yo be f*cking hilarious.

C. Montgomery Gurns

Sand wrote: »

It sounds like they're really getting to you.

I certainly will admit that I am embarrassed to share a nationality with these people. Maybe the Brits were right, and we really are a disproportionately thick, ignorant race of people. It certainly seems to be the case judging by the articles being written.

InTheTrees

Cartouche wrote: »

Are there a lot of ISIS attacks inside the US ? I dont understand Trumps paranoia on this
If he wants to make America safe why doesnt he do an executive order banning guns ?

The gun lobby in the USA are so powerful that the president can ban whole nations of people from entering the US but he cant ban the very same people from buying guns if they are already in the USA.

Bizzarro world isnt it?

B0jangles

B0jangles wrote: »

10 days into his presidency and he's being sued by two states, had his anti-muslim executive order overturned by multiple courts and is being protested daily by tens of thousands of US citizens for variety of his actions.

He has a historically low approval rating which is dropping by the day.

He is actively stirring up conflict with Mexico and China.

10 days.

Enjoy your alt-facts though.

Unless something has happened within the last hour, this is untrue. The order still stands for 90 days and people won't be flying into the country. Nothing has been overturned.

What happened with the judge applied only to people stuck in airports. Although I'm not fully sure why you said multiple courts?

As to the constitution, people are saying their detention while stuck in limbo could have been against the constitution. Not really Trump's fault or intention. It was only in JFK apparently that it got messed up.
And people are saying the executive order itself could go against the constitution if it's ruled to be against a religion. The biggest Muslim countries in the world can still go to America so it's unlikely it will be found to have broken it.

I can't blame you for not knowing this.. I've noticed a lot of the media today has tried to paint this as a disaster for his executive order and are intentionally misleading people into thinking it's been overturned.

InTheTrees wrote: »

The gun lobby in the USA are so powerful that the president can ban whole nations of people from entering the US but he cant ban the very same people from buying guns if they are already in the USA.

Bizzarro world isnt it?

I constantly see people screaming that he's breaking the constitution with everything he does. Isn't the right to bear arms in it? He'd be seen as a traitor by everyone in here if he did it.

Akrasia

There's a great website that allows you to build your own virtual mexican border wall using google streetview and googlemaps

You'll be able to place the wall and specify the size and materials and see how much it costs

http://buildthatwall.tech/

Little CuChulainn

Deleted User wrote: »

I constantly see people screaming that he's breaking the constitution with everything he does. Isn't the right to bear arms in it? He'd be seen as a traitor by everyone in here if he did it.

Selective quoting again are we?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

Funnily enough, the West Wing covered much of the stuff happening in Trumps administration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFIYLimyRHU

AlekSmart

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

So you are saying it's ok to cut quotes. Grand.

Snip snip snip...?

What's YOUR interpretation of the Interview......What the man said...like....what did he say ..? was there a gun to his back...? ...was it the steely glare from Congresswoman Velazquez ?....snip snip snipetty snip..?

Maybe he's not a native English speaker..yea ?....bit of a misinterpretation thang?

Little CuChulainn

AlekSmart wrote: »

Snip snip snip...?

What's YOUR interpretation of the Interview......What the man said...like....what did he say ..? was there a gun to his back...? ...was it the steely glare from Congresswoman Velazquez ?....snip snip snipetty snip..?

Maybe he's not a native English speaker..yea ?....bit of a misinterpretation thang?

I think a man with his colour skin would be made to insult a childish overreacting president on national TV while he is hoping not to be deported.

Grayson

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I think a man with his colour skin would be made to insult a childish overreacting president on national TV while he is hoping not to be deported.

And even if he did like Trump, he's only one person.

I don't get the right wingers. They're harping on about a guy who said he likes Trump as if they're making a point. What point is that? That Muslim immigrants love Trump? Well in that case they shouldn't be banned. They're his kind of people and what he did was stupid.

Maybe the reason they're harping on about it is because they have nothing else with which to defend this. And so they're grabbing at whatever straws are within reach. Even if there's no point to it.

Little CuChulainn

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Selective quoting again are we?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

This is a debatable phrasing that some believe means militia and others believe means militia and individual.

Legally though since 2008, it seems that it means militia and individual. Even without that, every American believes individuals have the right to bear arms and Trump would be lambasted for trying to use executive powers to change that.

Nice selective quoting. I actually laughed.